Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups are the groups that will be > downloaded next time fetch runs. That's strictly correct, but let me expand on it a little. When fetch sees e.g. interesting.groups/comp.os.linux.advocacy, it reads all new articles in comp.os.linux.advocacy, and creates directories for the groups those new postings are cross-posted to. Fetch does this so that if you decide to follow a cross-posted thread into another group, you won't have to reread the articles you've read already. These extra directories do not add up to much compared to the space taken by the never-read articles you're most likely pulling in: while du will tell you there's lots of files in the extra directories, every one of them is hard-linked to a group directory you don't want to be without. > Delete files there if you don't want these newsgroups. Or just stop reading the newsgroups, and leafnode will eventually delete the files itself. Takes a week or so. --Arnt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 09:55:20AM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Oct 16, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote > > The big catch is that you have to edit some files to alter which > newsgroups you download and I also never seem to see which new groups are > created. The files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups are the groups that will be downloaded next time fetch runs. Delete files there if you don't want these newsgroups. Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
On Oct 16, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote > Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I now use inn and newsx [ ... ] > > INN uses the same technique that you dislike, too - lots of hardlinks > everywhere. May be ugly, but it's about the only way to store USENET > using a Unix-like file system. The thing I disliked about leafnode was the thousands of directories that it made. You can get rid of these by altering actsync.ctl so that the groups are never made. For instance I kill off all the microsoft groups :-) and those in languages a don't understand. I then setup newsx to only download those newsgroups that I'm, interested in. The big catch is that you have to edit some files to alter which newsgroups you download and I also never seem to see which new groups are created. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Artificial intelligence - the http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | art of making computers act PGP key available on public key servers | like those in the movies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 02:54:59PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and > > that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file). > > > > But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post. > > Not really. You can use inews if you like. Or you can use a news reader like > slrn that posts via nntp. Leafnode will accept the post and feed it to the > upstream news server next time fetch is run. I see. Well, I have to admit that I'm not very sophisticated with news software. I remeber dependencies problems with inews, but they are solved now. So, as often, one has multiple choice :) Thank you, Marcus who is happy about learning more and more about debian -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
Gustaf Erikson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus, > I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see > lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. I don't want this. If you want comp.*.advocacy and do not not want cross-posts, I don't think you're going to get what you want. FWIW, I use gnus too, and I regularly abort fetch. Fetch should handle that reasonably, perhaps except during the very first run. --Arnt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I now use inn and newsx [ ... ] INN uses the same technique that you dislike, too - lots of hardlinks everywhere. May be ugly, but it's about the only way to store USENET using a Unix-like file system. --Arnt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and > that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file). > > But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post. Not really. You can use inews if you like. Or you can use a news reader like slrn that posts via nntp. Leafnode will accept the post and feed it to the upstream news server next time fetch is run. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
On Tue, Oct 14, 1997 at 11:30:14PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Oct 13, Frank Barknecht wrote > > Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote: > > > > However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus, > > > I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see > > > lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. > > > > That's "a feature", I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups > > you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have > > /var/spool/news/microsoft/... :( > > I started to use leafnode, but thought that this was ugly and stopped. I > hoped that either I was doing something wrong or leafnode would be fixed. leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file). But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post. > I now use inn and newsx (I like newsx, but inn was a pain - maybe now I > have a better idea things won't be so bad). I have a page at > http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/wyvern/isp which should help if you are > feeling lucky :-) For one or a few users, inn is overkill, and leafnode one way to go. Marcus -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
On Oct 13, Frank Barknecht wrote > Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote: > > However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus, > > I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see > > lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. > > That's "a feature", I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups > you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have > /var/spool/news/microsoft/... :( I started to use leafnode, but thought that this was ugly and stopped. I hoped that either I was doing something wrong or leafnode would be fixed. I now use inn and newsx (I like newsx, but inn was a pain - maybe now I have a better idea things won't be so bad). I have a page at http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/wyvern/isp which should help if you are feeling lucky :-) Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Artificial intelligence - the http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | art of making computers act PGP key available on public key servers | like those in the movies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with leafnode and gnus
Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm having trouble setting up leafnode to read news. > > I installed leafnode w/o problems, followed the configuration > described in the README and README.debian files, as well as an article > in Linux Gazette #9. This article told me to log into my news server, > run 'fetch' as root, start a news reader, subscribe to interesting > groups, run fetch again. This should do it, according to the article. > > However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus, > I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see > lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. That's "a feature", I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have /var/spool/news/microsoft/... :( > I don't want this. I > abort. When I try to find something in the groups to which I've > subscribed -- bubkis, nada, The Big Empty. Gnus cannot even open the > groups. Netscape returns a pane with "syntax error". > > Any ideas? leafnode is confused about which messages it has received and where to put them. I had the same problem when I disrupted a "fetch". Sureley it is not the best solution, but: You could reinstall leafnode (sounds like MS Windows, but...), run fetch again, "fetch -v -v" to be more verbose, and don't interrupt it! Try seting the max number of messages to fetch to something lower than the default 1000. For testing 50 should be enough. (In /etc/leafnode.conf ) -- Yours, Frank Barknecht http://www.koeln-online.de/einblick/";> Das Koelner Stadt- und Unimagazin ---> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problem with leafnode and gnus
Hello all, I'm having trouble setting up leafnode to read news. I installed leafnode w/o problems, followed the configuration described in the README and README.debian files, as well as an article in Linux Gazette #9. This article told me to log into my news server, run 'fetch' as root, start a news reader, subscribe to interesting groups, run fetch again. This should do it, according to the article. However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus, I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. I don't want this. I abort. When I try to find something in the groups to which I've subscribed -- bubkis, nada, The Big Empty. Gnus cannot even open the groups. Netscape returns a pane with "syntax error". Any ideas? I've set gnus to fetch mail from 'localhost', as per orders. As far as I know, the news server I'm using is standard issue. I can read the news sucked down with the command find /var/spool/news/comp -name '[0-9]*' -exec cat {} \; | more but I find this a little tiring... /g. -- Gustaf Erikson 59* 21' N 18* 05' E http://www.student.nada.kth.se/~f92-ger/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .