Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
Thanks for all the help! I finally was able to do an installation, and have now lubuntu 12.10 beta running- It seems, it is not using th e nonfree nvidia drivers, I do have installed libvdpau1 ubuntu-drivers-common xserver-xorg-video-nouveau libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa.dri (all installed by default by the installer) The problem I mentiones in the original post, that the livecd with lubuntu went into a black screen, is strange, but I found it could be solved by using the F3 key. Kjetil On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: >> I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to >> install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of >> different sort. >> Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same >> symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is >> a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any >> ideas? >> >> I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but >> that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs >> returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. >> Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program >> freezes, >> (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any >> ideas? > > Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into > http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ? > Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora? > > Regards, > Ralf > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347264224.11998.46.camel@precise > -- "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the human face - forever." George Orwell (1984) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH=m5MiTAyXVARtaF1X1nJg2hVq-=Jatv1Sbg3QDa=6ioef...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is > a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > ideas? > > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. > Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program > freezes, > (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any ideas? Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ? Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora? Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347264224.11998.46.camel@precise
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On 09/09/2012 02:58 AM, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of different sort. Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any ideas? I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program freezes, (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any ideas? Kjetil I think I remember someone else having trouble with an HP, and it turned out that HP has filled up all 4 primary partitions with "stuff" for recovery, etc., so there is no place to put another OS. You'll have to repartition the drive, such that you have a partition into which you can put secondary partitions for /root and /home, at the least. Or you could scrub Windows altogether, and clean the drive out, but that's a bit drastic, unless you know you'll never need Windows for anything. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504cfe71.6050...@optonline.net
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On Sunday 09 September 2012 6:47:32 am Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > > different sort. > > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a > > lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > > ideas? > > Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug > console just in the event there's something logged there. afaikt this laptop has the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M card which needs the lastest NVIDIA 295.59 Linux update, from Nvidia. Not sure which Debian version, if any, has updated non-free to include this. Text mode expert install may help. snip -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209091117.36594.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
At least on debian installers it should always be possible after language and keyboard selections have been done to drop to the main menu so that an installer can first arrange for debug logs to be saved and then do a disk integrity check before proceeding with the installation. If the disk is no good to start with going any further is just a waste of time. If the integrity is good, and an installer runs into problems after that, they'll be recorded in those debug logs. If the debug logs were saved to a floppy, it ought to be possible to replay them later and in that event, those are something debian-installer wants you to upload into web space and send them the url to the debug logs. That way they can do something about errors in programs on the install media. On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Brian wrote: > On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > > > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > > different sort. > > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is > > a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > > ideas? > > Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum? > > > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. > > Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program > > freezes, > > (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any > > ideas? > > This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an > unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :) > > If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze, > an alpha ISO should be less troublesome: > >http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/ > > > --- jude Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1209091326100.38...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a > lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > ideas? Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug console just in the event there's something logged there. > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. (...) Precision does matter. What was the exact error you got? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2ia64$rra$8...@ger.gmane.org
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen writes: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is > a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > ideas? > > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. > Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program > freezes, > (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any ideas? You need to provide more information, like which installer exactly you are using and if you have tried the non-graphical installation and what error messages you get. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5kjs7l4@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is > a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > ideas? Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum? > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. > Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program > freezes, > (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) Any ideas? This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :) If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze, an alpha ISO should be less troublesome: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120909100116.GS24280@desktop
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400 Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is > a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any > ideas? > > I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but > that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs > returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd. > Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program > freezes, > (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired) > Any ideas? > The very latest Knoppix? That's likely to get new drivers before most installable distributions. Knoppix isn't suitable for permanent installation, as it isn't maintained, but it's mostly based on Debian sid and drivers should be transferrable. At the very least, the problem area should be identified. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120909092823.28188...@jretrading.com
Re: problems installing linux on new laptop
Have you tried Slackware 13.37 yet? That might work, I have an ancient Dell laptop and Slackware had no problems installing and running on that laptop. It hasn't got an especially large footprint either. --- jude Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1209090352530.24...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg