Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:58 +0530 Amrish Purohit amrish.dis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Osamu, Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this will work. Please comment if any thing is wrong. Two points: - Wouldn't it be better to change the source.list to debian testing straight after installation? That way you will not need to download Gnome packages from stable, saving bandwidth and time. - If you want Gnome, it is probably better to use tasksel[1], so that all the Gnome-related goodies are installed and configured. Installing just login manager and terminal application will only bring in minimal necessary dependencies, giving you a rather poor GUI experience - you might as well stay in text console. 1. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome#task Regards, -- Andrej -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113225335.388635b5@penny
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:53:35PM +0100, Andrej Kacian wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:58 +0530 Amrish Purohit amrish.dis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Osamu, Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this will work. Please comment if any thing is wrong. Two points: - Wouldn't it be better to change the source.list to debian testing straight after installation? That way you will not need to download Gnome packages from stable, saving bandwidth and time. That exactly I meant to suggest but Amrish maybe uncomfortable working without GUI terminal or I may have failed to explain well... Console is less problematic. As long as he stays within X, gdm3 and gnome-terminal, it is not really bad. (But X xdm and xterm may be even better.) - If you want Gnome, it is probably better to use tasksel[1], so that all the Gnome-related goodies are installed and configured. Very true. Installing just login manager and terminal application will only bring in minimal necessary dependencies, giving you a rather poor GUI experience - you might as well stay in text console. I do not know what he mean by the core system. I hope it meant up to simple X. gnome-core package is already huge :-) Installing task-gnome-desktop package and its all depends and recommends is good idea (which I think tasksel menu will do.) Osamu 1. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome#task Regards, -- Andrej -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113225335.388635b5@penny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114030957.GB6823@localhost
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi Osamu, Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this will work. Please comment if any thing is wrong. Thanks Amrish On Monday 09 January 2012 07:34 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:02:01PM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote: Hi all, I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse is not working. Sometime installer does not work well for testing/unstable. I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? Maybe ... if such thing exist. But do you know most of us install stable system and upgrade it to testing/unstable. Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? I think you should at least try upgrading system after installing stable system on separate partition as dual boot. If you want to make you life easy, install non-desktop small system first. Then edit /etc/apt/souces.list to replace stable or squeeze with wheezy and run # apt-get update # apt-get dist-upgrade Then run tasksel or with aptitude, install desktop task and you are done. You should at least read this section: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f0c07e6.7060...@gmail.com
pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi all, I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse is not working. I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? Thanks Amrish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f0aec51.2080...@gmail.com
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:02:01PM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote: Hi all, I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse is not working. Sometime installer does not work well for testing/unstable. I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? Maybe ... if such thing exist. But do you know most of us install stable system and upgrade it to testing/unstable. Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? I think you should at least try upgrading system after installing stable system on separate partition as dual boot. If you want to make you life easy, install non-desktop small system first. Then edit /etc/apt/souces.list to replace stable or squeeze with wheezy and run # apt-get update # apt-get dist-upgrade Then run tasksel or with aptitude, install desktop task and you are done. You should at least read this section: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120109140432.GA24617@localhost