Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:53:35PM +0100, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:58 +0530 > Amrish Purohit wrote: > > >Hi Osamu, > >Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over > >stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is > >the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. > >I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get > >the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I > >plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + > >gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the > >repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this > >will work. > >Please comment if any thing is wrong. > > Two points: > > - Wouldn't it be better to change the source.list to debian testing straight > after installation? That way you will not need to download Gnome packages from > stable, saving bandwidth and time. That exactly I meant to suggest but Amrish maybe uncomfortable working without GUI terminal or I may have failed to explain well... Console is less problematic. As long as he stays within X, gdm3 and gnome-terminal, it is not really bad. (But X xdm and xterm may be even better.) > - If you want Gnome, it is probably better to use tasksel[1], so that all the > Gnome-related goodies are installed and configured. Very true. > Installing just login > manager and terminal application will only bring in minimal necessary > dependencies, giving you a rather poor GUI experience - you might as well stay > in text console. I do not know what he mean by "the core system". I hope it meant up to simple X. gnome-core package is already huge :-) Installing task-gnome-desktop package and its all depends and recommends is good idea (which I think tasksel menu will do.) Osamu > 1. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome#task > > Regards, > -- > Andrej > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113225335.388635b5@penny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120114030957.GB6823@localhost
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:58 +0530 Amrish Purohit wrote: >Hi Osamu, >Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over >stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is >the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. >I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get >the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I >plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + >gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the >repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this >will work. >Please comment if any thing is wrong. Two points: - Wouldn't it be better to change the source.list to debian testing straight after installation? That way you will not need to download Gnome packages from stable, saving bandwidth and time. - If you want Gnome, it is probably better to use tasksel[1], so that all the Gnome-related goodies are installed and configured. Installing just login manager and terminal application will only bring in minimal necessary dependencies, giving you a rather poor GUI experience - you might as well stay in text console. 1. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome#task Regards, -- Andrej -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120113225335.388635b5@penny
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi Osamu, Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong. I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system + gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this will work. Please comment if any thing is wrong. Thanks Amrish On Monday 09 January 2012 07:34 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:02:01PM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in >> debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I >> have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly >> build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse >> is not working. >> > Sometime installer does not work well for testing/unstable. > > >> I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. >> (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? >> > Maybe ... if such thing exist. But do you know most of us install > stable system and upgrade it to testing/unstable. > > >> Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? >> > I think you should at least try upgrading system after installing stable > system on separate partition as dual boot. > > If you want to make you life easy, install non-desktop small system > first. > > Then edit /etc/apt/souces.list to replace stable or squeeze with wheezy and > run > # apt-get update > # apt-get dist-upgrade > > Then run tasksel or with aptitude, install desktop task and you are > done. > > You should at least read this section: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites > > Osamu > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f0c07e6.7060...@gmail.com
Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi, On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:02:01PM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote: > Hi all, > I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in > debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I > have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly > build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse > is not working. Sometime installer does not work well for testing/unstable. > I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. > (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? Maybe ... if such thing exist. But do you know most of us install stable system and upgrade it to testing/unstable. > Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? I think you should at least try upgrading system after installing stable system on separate partition as dual boot. If you want to make you life easy, install non-desktop small system first. Then edit /etc/apt/souces.list to replace stable or squeeze with wheezy and run # apt-get update # apt-get dist-upgrade Then run tasksel or with aptitude, install desktop task and you are done. You should at least read this section: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120109140432.GA24617@localhost
pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing
Hi all, I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse is not working. I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing. (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do? Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing? Thanks Amrish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f0aec51.2080...@gmail.com
