Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt [solved]

2006-03-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 07:12:54PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > My first email was actually a resend after I got a bounce. I must have
> > answered a question wrongly during setup of exim. When I copied the
> > exim setup from the old system, the new started sending email
> > properly. If I really want a clean new system (and I do) I'll probably
> > end up re-doing last nights work.
> 
> Have both systems got the same exim configs, I mean there is no rewrite
> rule operating on one system and not he other?
> 

With help from this list, I found an error in how I had configured exim.
Actually, the old, original system was misconfigured. The two were treating
the From: header differently. It is not a puzzle any more, but thanks for
your continued interest.

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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-03-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> My first email was actually a resend after I got a bounce. I must have
> answered a question wrongly during setup of exim. When I copied the
> exim setup from the old system, the new started sending email
> properly. If I really want a clean new system (and I do) I'll probably
> end up re-doing last nights work.

Have both systems got the same exim configs, I mean there is no rewrite
rule operating on one system and not he other?

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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt [solved]

2006-03-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 10:44:52AM -0700, Rob Sims wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > Thanks for the help. I had not known of these, but ...  On my computer
> > the two installation Muttrc files are identical (no differences
> > discovered by diff) and there is no Muttrc.d directory in either
> > installation.  I can see in /usr/lib/mutt evidence that Muttrd.d is a
> > legitimate part of some installations of mutt (a script that
> > references it), but its not there for me.  I didn't see any config
> > information in /usr/lib/mutt (not surprising, there shouldn't be any
> > according to policy) The different behavior remains a puzzle.
>  
> I have no site-specific stuff, so I have no Muttrc.d either.  It was
> just an opportunity for differences.
> 
> Is your login name the same on both systems?
> 
> If you want to check the actual installation for diffs:
> 
> for f in `dpkg -L mutt`; do if [ -f "$f" ]; then md5sum "$f"; fi; done > 
> muttmd5
> 
> Transfer muttmd5 to the second machine.
> 
> md5sum -c muttmd5
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Thanks, Rob There was an unintended one character difference in user
name between the two systems.  Enough to trigger some logic in mutt's
index display. Problem solved.



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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-03-01 Thread Rob Sims
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Thanks for the help. I had not known of these, but ...  On my computer
> the two installation Muttrc files are identical (no differences
> discovered by diff) and there is no Muttrc.d directory in either
> installation.  I can see in /usr/lib/mutt evidence that Muttrd.d is a
> legitimate part of some installations of mutt (a script that
> references it), but its not there for me.  I didn't see any config
> information in /usr/lib/mutt (not surprising, there shouldn't be any
> according to policy) The different behavior remains a puzzle.
 
I have no site-specific stuff, so I have no Muttrc.d either.  It was
just an opportunity for differences.

Is your login name the same on both systems?

If you want to check the actual installation for diffs:

for f in `dpkg -L mutt`; do if [ -f "$f" ]; then md5sum "$f"; fi; done > muttmd5

Transfer muttmd5 to the second machine.

md5sum -c muttmd5
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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-02-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:34:21PM -0700, Rob Sims wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:13:51PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > Additional information in this 'reply':
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:30:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > At the end of yesterday evening, I had a second installation of Sarge
> > > that contained the same software as the original. But with the same
> > > /home. But its not so. Mutt behaves differently in the two. For
> > > example, in one installation my posts to this list are listed as "To:
> > > debian-user..."  and in the other they are listed as "From: pecondon
> > > ..." Why?  My reading of the man page is that mutt configuration is
> 
> Your earlier mail had no From: line.

My first email was actually a resend after I got a bounce. I must have
answered a question wrongly during setup of exim. When I copied the
exim setup from the old system, the new started sending email
properly. If I really want a clean new system (and I do) I'll probably
end up re-doing last nights work.

> 
> > > all done in ~/.muttrc and that there is not a master config file in
> > > /etc. Am I mistaken? Where is another that mutt config is stored? What
> > > is the source of this difference in behavior?
>  
> /etc/Muttrc and /etc/Muttrc.d/*

Thanks for the help. I had not known of these, but ...  On my computer
the two installation Muttrc files are identical (no differences
discovered by diff) and there is no Muttrc.d directory in either
installation.  I can see in /usr/lib/mutt evidence that Muttrd.d is a
legitimate part of some installations of mutt (a script that
references it), but its not there for me.  I didn't see any config
information in /usr/lib/mutt (not surprising, there shouldn't be any
according to policy) The different behavior remains a puzzle.

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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-02-28 Thread Rob Sims
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:13:51PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Additional information in this 'reply':
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:30:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > At the end of yesterday evening, I had a second installation of Sarge
> > that contained the same software as the original. But with the same
> > /home. But its not so. Mutt behaves differently in the two. For
> > example, in one installation my posts to this list are listed as "To:
> > debian-user..."  and in the other they are listed as "From: pecondon
> > ..." Why?  My reading of the man page is that mutt configuration is

Your earlier mail had no From: line.

> > all done in ~/.muttrc and that there is not a master config file in
> > /etc. Am I mistaken? Where is another that mutt config is stored? What
> > is the source of this difference in behavior?
 
/etc/Muttrc and /etc/Muttrc.d/*
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Re: question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-02-28 Thread Paul E Condon
Additional information in this 'reply':
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:30:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have been working on debugging my print services. I have made
> several posts to this list on that subject. Several of you have
> suggested that this or that thing that I was complaining about worked
> fine on their system. So I decided to install a fresh copy of Debian
> with a view to testing in a whole new clean environment.
> 
> Now comes the details of a strange issue with mutt. Of course, I did
> not wipe my system clean and install all new. What I really did was to
> free up a partition that is big enough (7G) to hold a generous Debian
> system, reformat it and install on that. My /home was already in a
> partition by itself, and my various personal projects were in other
> partitions where I could easily arrange to keep them all
> untouched. And I did preserve them all and mount them in the new
> installation. My original root partition became a subdirectory in
> the new system. The new root directory was already accessable from
> the old root as a subdirectory, but now with very different size and
> contents.
>  
> At the end of yesterday evening, I had a second installation of Sarge
> that contained the same software as the original. But with the same
> /home. But its not so. Mutt behaves differently in the two. For
> example, in one installation my posts to this list are listed as "To:
> debian-user..."  and in the other they are listed as "From: pecondon
> ..." Why?  My reading of the man page is that mutt configuration is
> all done in ~/.muttrc and that there is not a master config file in
> /etc. Am I mistaken? Where is another that mutt config is stored? What
> is the source of this difference in behavior?
> 
New info: The two installations of mutt are the same version of the .deb
package downloaded from the same repository.

> Of course, I don't really care about such a petty detail of mutt
> configuration, but it is absolute proof that I don't have control
> over the configuration of my environment, and I need control if
> I am ever to solve my print problems where my queries to this
> list frequently get "It works for me." as a response. 
> 
> I need help, please.
> 
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question about my .muttrc and mutt

2006-02-28 Thread bounce-debian-user=archive=mail-archive . com
I have been working on debugging my print services. I have made
several posts to this list on that subject. Several of you have
suggested that this or that thing that I was complaining about worked
fine on their system. So I decided to install a fresh copy of Debian
with a view to testing in a whole new clean environment.

Now comes the details of a strange issue with mutt. Of course, I did
not wipe my system clean and install all new. What I really did was to
free up a partition that is big enough (7G) to hold a generous Debian
system, reformat it and install on that. My /home was already in a
partition by itself, and my various personal projects were in other
partitions where I could easily arrange to keep them all
untouched. And I did preserve them all and mount them in the new
installation. My original root partition became a subdirectory in
the new system. The new root directory was already accessable from
the old root as a subdirectory, but now with very different size and
contents.
 
At the end of yesterday evening, I had a second installation of Sarge
that contained the same software as the original. But with the same
/home. But its not so. Mutt behaves differently in the two. For
example, in one installation my posts to this list are listed as "To:
debian-user..."  and in the other they are listed as "From: pecondon
..." Why?  My reading of the man page is that mutt configuration is
all done in ~/.muttrc and that there is not a master config file in
/etc. Am I mistaken? Where is another that mutt config is stored? What
is the source of this difference in behavior?

Of course, I don't really care about such a petty detail of mutt
configuration, but it is absolute proof that I don't have control
over the configuration of my environment, and I need control if
I am ever to solve my print problems where my queries to this
list frequently get "It works for me." as a response. 

I need help, please.

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