Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-04 Thread Iwan Mouwen
* Karsten M. Self  [010404 09:45]:
 > What you want is "apt-get clean" 
> > 
> > "autoclean" only removes packages that can no longer be downloaded.
> 
> ...which is to say, packages which have been replaced by updated
> versions.
> 
> What he wants _is_ autoclean, why it's not working, or his understanding
> of its workings, is a mystery.

If this is the expected behaviour:


samwise:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg -l konqueror
ii  konqueror  2.1.1-0.potato3  KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and 
Document Viewer

samwise:/var/cache/apt/archives# ls konqueror*
konqueror_2.1.0.1-0.potato4_i386.deb  konqueror_2.1.1-0.potato1_i386.deb  
konqueror_2.1.1-0.potato3_i386.deb

samwise:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get -s autoclean | grep konqueror
Del konqueror 2.1.0.1-0.potato4 [1197kB]
Del konqueror 2.1.1-0.potato1 [1200kB]
Del konqueror 2.1.1-0.potato3 [1200kB]


then I'm sure my understanding of autoclean is wrong.

Iwan.




Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Karsten M. Self  [030401 20:30]:
> on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0500, Robert A. Jacobs ([EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > * Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other
> > > directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory.
> > > My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and
> > > I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want.
> > > 
> > 
> > What you want is "apt-get clean" 
> > 
> > "autoclean" only removes packages that can no longer be downloaded.
> 
> ...which is to say, packages which have been replaced by updated
> versions.
> 
> What he wants _is_ autoclean, why it's not working, or his understanding
> of its workings, is a mystery.


Whoops.  Shoulda read his post closer...I thought he wanted to clean out all
the packages in that directory.  A second read through cleared up my 
misconception.

robert a. jacobs



Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:52:02PM -0500, Robert A. Jacobs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> * Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other
> > directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory.
> > My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and
> > I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want.
> > 
> 
> What you want is "apt-get clean" 
> 
> "autoclean" only removes packages that can no longer be downloaded.

...which is to say, packages which have been replaced by updated
versions.

What he wants _is_ autoclean, why it's not working, or his understanding
of its workings, is a mystery.

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Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Robert A. Jacobs
* Iwan Mouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030401 19:28]:
> Hi,
> 
> is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other
> directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory.
> My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and
> I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want.
> 

What you want is "apt-get clean" 


"autoclean" only removes packages that can no longer be downloaded.


robert a. jacobs



Re: removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:09:18AM +0200, Iwan Mouwen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other
> directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory.
> My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and
> I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want.

apt-get autoclean _should_ do what you're asking.  You are running it as
root?

If it's not:

  - Verify that these *are* the same packages.
  - File a bug report if they are.

Cheers.

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removing obsolete packages

2001-04-03 Thread Iwan Mouwen
Hi,

is there a way to delete packages from the cache (or from some other
directory) for which a newer package exists in that directory.
My /var/cache/apt/archives has several versions of lots of packages and
I want to remove them. apt-get autoclean doesn't seem to do what I want.


Iwan.



Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Lukas Eppler hat gesagt: // Lukas Eppler wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote:
> 
> > > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also
> > Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed?
> > 
> > Lukas> Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl
> > Lukas> still there afterwards, because it's contained in the perl
> > Lukas> package?  Do I risk perl and dpkg to be unable to run by
> > Lukas> removing perl-base?
> > 
> > dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another
> > installed package (except if you force dpkg)
> 
> Nooo... see what happened
> 
> io# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
> /etc/init.d/sendmail: /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon: No such file or
> directory
> io# head -3 /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
> #!/usr/bin/perl --
> 
> $version= '1.4.0.8'; # This line modified by Makefile
> io# ls /usr/bin/perl
> ls: /usr/bin/perl: No such file or directory
> 
> That was exactly why I asked, to avoid this!
> I used dselect, no happy dpkg hacking. grunt.
> 
> perl-base was marked Obsolete.
> 
> -- 

Had the same problem a while ago. After upgrading perl I remove the "obsolete"
old perl via dselect. It turned out that /usr/bin/perl had disappeared after 
this. But there was a /usr/bin/perl5... I symlinked it to /usr/bin/perl
and everything was okay. 

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Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-18 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote:

> > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also
> Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed?
> 
> Lukas> Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl
> Lukas> still there afterwards, because it's contained in the perl
> Lukas> package?  Do I risk perl and dpkg to be unable to run by
> Lukas> removing perl-base?
> 
> dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another
> installed package (except if you force dpkg)

Nooo... see what happened

io# /etc/init.d/sendmail start
/etc/init.d/sendmail: /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon: No such file or
directory
io# head -3 /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon
#!/usr/bin/perl --

$version= '1.4.0.8'; # This line modified by Makefile
io# ls /usr/bin/perl
ls: /usr/bin/perl: No such file or directory

That was exactly why I asked, to avoid this!
I used dselect, no happy dpkg hacking. grunt.

perl-base was marked Obsolete.

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Re: Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-18 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Dirk Bonne wrote:

> > "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also
> Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed?
> dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another
> installed package (except if you force dpkg)

Okk, I deinstalled it and everything still worked.

I once removed the pcmcia-cs-binaries after having compiled the
pcmcia-source, which is in the main tree (the binaries did not work) and
it removed the newly compiled binaries. I assume this was a special case;
I didn't want to risk anything, and perl is very important to debian.

Thanks for your help.

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Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-17 Thread Dirk Bonne
> "Lukas" == Lukas Eppler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lukas> Hi, When I remove a package, which contains files also
Lukas> contained in other packages, is it removed?

Lukas> Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl
Lukas> still there afterwards, because it's contained in the perl
Lukas> package?  Do I risk perl and dpkg to be unable to run by
Lukas> removing perl-base?

dpkg will refuse to remove a package if it removal would break another
installed package (except if you force dpkg)

Lukas> The following files seem to be shared:

These are not files, but directories.

Dirk


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Removing obsolete packages

1997-11-17 Thread Lukas Eppler
Hi,

When I remove a package, which contains files also contained in other
packages, is it removed?

Or, if I remove a file from perl-base, is /usr/bin/perl still there
afterwards, because it's contained in the perl package?
Do I risk perl and dpkg to be unable to run by removing perl-base?

The following files seem to be shared:

perl, libnet, perl-base, perl-suid, netbase: /usr/lib/perl5
perl, libnet, perl-base, perl-suid: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux
perl, libnet, perl-base, perl-suid: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307
perl, libnet, perl-base: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto
perl, perl-base: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto/Socket
perl, perl-base: /usr/lib/perl5/File
perl, perl-base: /usr/lib/perl5/auto
perl, perl-base: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/DynaLoader

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