Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
On 2023-01-03 at 14:12 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:04:12 -0500 > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Claws email with the GPG plugin is popular. It may be a good fit > > for > > you, too. > > > > https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg > > Concur. You didn't indicate whether you use mbox or maildir format (or > something else). Claws-mail will likely be able to read your existing > emails with no issues. evolution also has good support for OpenPGP mail. Both Claws and evolution use GnuPG as backend (as did the old Enigmail), so you should see no difference wrt. keeping keys in memory without requiring the password (handled by gpg-agent), or trusting the keys of the recipients. I see that evolution filters support playing a sound as an action. I don't know what the Virtual Identity plugin does. Apparently, it's no longer on AMO.
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
On Tuesday, 3 Jan 2023 at 21:27, Michel Verdier wrote: > I use Gnus (on emacs). I fetch mails with pop3s from different providers, > send mails to corresponding smtp servers based on sending address (could > be different criteria). I use nnml backend which store 1 mail per file, > so no big database, best perf, easy backup and no mail losses. Gnus use > standard gpg for encryption. I use swish for indexing and searching mails. Pretty much the same for me except for notmuch instead of swish for indexing/searching. Works very well in all respects including gpg. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-01-02) on Debian 11.5
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
Am 03.01.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Jeffrey Walton:> Claws email with the GPG plugin is popular. It may be a good fit for you, too. > > https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg > > Jeff Thank you so much. I am going to check it out, test it and possibly prepare the transition if all goes well. (Not a short term adventure, but i do have the time ...) Have a happy year 2023! DdB
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:04:12 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Claws email with the GPG plugin is popular. It may be a good fit for > you, too. > > https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg Concur. You didn't indicate whether you use mbox or maildir format (or something else). Claws-mail will likely be able to read your existing emails with no issues. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
Le 3 janvier 2023 DdB a écrit : > How are YOU dealing with encryption, with multiple providers, with > addresses created on-the-fly, with a huge email history, and so on? I use Gnus (on emacs). I fetch mails with pop3s from different providers, send mails to corresponding smtp servers based on sending address (could be different criteria). I use nnml backend which store 1 mail per file, so no big database, best perf, easy backup and no mail losses. Gnus use standard gpg for encryption. I use swish for indexing and searching mails.
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, January 3rd, 2023 at 12:46 AM, DdB wrote: > How are YOU dealing with encryption, with multiple providers, with > addresses created on-the-fly, with a huge email history, and so on? Protonmail with its bridge (to TB or equivalent) might do for you. -- Glenn English -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsBzBAEBCAAnBQJjtFQ/CRCf14YxgqyMMhYhBCyicw9CUnAlY0ANl5/XhjGC rIwyAAB2nggAynqMSsq7KMtDFj0dlWAQNMJ0eMnbHpK9kQUWw45nwxW53vU5 KZp/pimz3UEnqSUFaGENWqZPC/sT/Nx1c6kcjCqMAzP7/BsARZnsYlARuAr4 IY9Np6kcjremhSkvNZHVBVxFFm65z95Fq5juW8DDw2wXWC+2q0BhCrQgg2E+ E1NqB6b06dAscv0ItRo7iidcX4VTc1otICnlGU7T/TajIU7Kk5tFofX8uzPU uLemHWdmcnF8f3G6Q20DUrTcSFuq7JJg+p13FFaIFW/VbgVN9tGz6b0UMEzF +hnmgYHNTezMo1FBm4XNYl/pJPJnNpPDanRMleAAw6XER5L5ub9QaA== =Vzpv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 2:47 AM DdB wrote: > > i feel the time has come to find a more up-to-date replacement for my > email-solution, but ... > > Up til now, i am using Thunderbird (52.9.1 (64-Bit) + Enigmail + > ToneQuilla + Virtual Identity and more ...) on stretch from inside a > Virtualbox-VM. > > That allowed to correspond seamlessly with GPG users on more than 20 > addresses (from 6 different providers), while i was acoustically > notified about the different levels of relevance of those mails, since > 20+ years. (makes a huge database) > > While keeping this stuff alive for an extended period of time, i have > been able to prevent the necessity to enter any passphrase manually, to > decrypt/encrypt automatically, and many more convenient solutions to > ease my life. > > Of course, i knew, that this could come to an end, but i have not found > a valid replacement yet. The current Thunderbird fails big time at > solving the GPG part, even worse: They (Mozilla/NSA/???) want to have > control over private keys in their own keystore, built by people > obviously not skilled enough to create a(ny) secure piece of software. > That is why i refused to embark on the path of replacing the isolated, > but integrated solution Enigmail with something less trustworthy, less > flexible, and less stable. > > But i feel, i will have to start building up an alternative, could not > yet make up my mind. > > That is why i am asking for your communities experience and recommendations. > > How are YOU dealing with encryption, with multiple providers, with > addresses created on-the-fly, with a huge email history, and so on? > > Really interested to find a solution, that can last for many years to come. Claws email with the GPG plugin is popular. It may be a good fit for you, too. https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg Jeff
request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
Hello List, i feel the time has come to find a more up-to-date replacement for my email-solution, but ... Up til now, i am using Thunderbird (52.9.1 (64-Bit) + Enigmail + ToneQuilla + Virtual Identity and more ...) on stretch from inside a Virtualbox-VM. That allowed to correspond seamlessly with GPG users on more than 20 addresses (from 6 different providers), while i was acoustically notified about the different levels of relevance of those mails, since 20+ years. (makes a huge database) While keeping this stuff alive for an extended period of time, i have been able to prevent the necessity to enter any passphrase manually, to decrypt/encrypt automatically, and many more convenient solutions to ease my life. Of course, i knew, that this could come to an end, but i have not found a valid replacement yet. The current Thunderbird fails big time at solving the GPG part, even worse: They (Mozilla/NSA/???) want to have control over private keys in their own keystore, built by people obviously not skilled enough to create a(ny) secure piece of software. That is why i refused to embark on the path of replacing the isolated, but integrated solution Enigmail with something less trustworthy, less flexible, and less stable. But i feel, i will have to start building up an alternative, could not yet make up my mind. That is why i am asking for your communities experience and recommendations. How are YOU dealing with encryption, with multiple providers, with addresses created on-the-fly, with a huge email history, and so on? Really interested to find a solution, that can last for many years to come. regards, DdB
