Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-05 Thread David Shultz

On 12/2/06, David Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
Does anyone has the same problem?




First of all I apologize for late reply. I messed up
my system so had to reinstall everything. Sorry about
that. After reinstall everything is working fine now.
Don't have that delay. If anything goes wrong, I'll
post back later. Again thanks to all for helping me.

--David


Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-04 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/02/2006 01:40 PM, David Shultz wrote:
 Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
 Resolving www.google.com http://www.google.com and waits for about
 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
 ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
 checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
 Does anyone has the same problem?
 
 --David

David,

The replies so far suggest this may not be a simple problem.  Again, for
me, the fact that I can quickly resolve url with the host command, or
any other web application, suggests that it's a mozilla/firefox bug.

A quick look @ bugzilla finds this bug among the many open dns related bugs:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234320
Bugzilla Bug 234320
DNS lookups take a very long time for a DNS server on the same LAN
Last modified: 2006-06-27 10:55:26 PST

Good luck!

Ralph


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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:35:34PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
Does anyone has the same problem?

This seems like a problem I had.
I could go to any site *except* www.google.com, and various other 
search engines. I thought there was some sort of conspiracy going
on. :-)

This was with lynx-ssl and wget, i.e
wget http://www.google.com/search?q=hipcrime;

If I tried lynx http://www.google.com; it would either just sit there
then time out or as per usual go to http://www.google.co.nz but then sit
there and time out. It also happened if I tried yahoo.com, altavista,
askjeeves. I couldn't search the net! Other sites were fine.

On the other machine running unstable, this problem didn't occur.

I was stumped.

I installed links, and eveything has been fine since.

Since this is a reasonably old laptop in the middle of being upgraded to
etch, I decided to wait and revisit it later. Although I think I prefer
links.

Thanks for bringing it up and hope you find a solution.

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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-03 Thread H.S.

David Shultz wrote:

On 12/2/06, Ralph Katz wrote:



Yes, I have the same symptoms on sarge with firefox 1.5.0.8 (from
mozilla tarball) and network.dns.disableIPv6 true.  While firefox is
resolving the address, I can bring up a terminal, $ host 'url' and get
an ip address long before firefox gets it.  The problem is very
intermittent and usually not a problem.  Restarting firefox seems to
help.  (Rarely, I plug the ip directly into firefox.)




Thanks for your reply. Do you know what is causing
this problem? Because in my case restarting firefox
or mozilla doesn't fix it.

--David



Do you have the machine's LAN card in DHCP configuration or does it have 
a static address?


Is the machine connected to a router or to a modem?

I had noticed a similar problem at my parents home, running Ubuntu and 
Firefox, and IIRC giving the Ubuntu machine a fixed address seemed to 
have solved the problem.


-HS



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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-03 Thread H.S.

H.S. wrote:



Do you have the machine's LAN card in DHCP configuration or does it have 
a static address?


Is the machine connected to a router or to a modem?

I had noticed a similar problem at my parents home, running Ubuntu and 
Firefox, and IIRC giving the Ubuntu machine a fixed address seemed to 
have solved the problem.


-HS



In hindsight, it might have been the explicit nameservers that were 
mentioned in the static configuration that did the trick. Not sure though.



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Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread David Shultz

Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
Does anyone has the same problem?

--David


Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread Ralph Katz
On 12/02/2006 01:40 PM, David Shultz wrote:
 Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
 Resolving www.google.com http://www.google.com and waits for about
 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
 ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
 checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
 Does anyone has the same problem?
 
 --David

Yes, I have the same symptoms on sarge with firefox 1.5.0.8 (from
mozilla tarball) and network.dns.disableIPv6 true.  While firefox is
resolving the address, I can bring up a terminal, $ host 'url' and get
an ip address long before firefox gets it.  The problem is very
intermittent and usually not a problem.  Restarting firefox seems to
help.  (Rarely, I plug the ip directly into firefox.)

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread David Shultz

On 12/2/06, Ralph Katz wrote:


Yes, I have the same symptoms on sarge with firefox 1.5.0.8 (from
mozilla tarball) and network.dns.disableIPv6 true.  While firefox is
resolving the address, I can bring up a terminal, $ host 'url' and get
an ip address long before firefox gets it.  The problem is very
intermittent and usually not a problem.  Restarting firefox seems to
help.  (Rarely, I plug the ip directly into firefox.)



Thanks for your reply. Do you know what is causing
this problem? Because in my case restarting firefox
or mozilla doesn't fix it.

--David


Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:35:34PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
 Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
 Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
 ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
 checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
 Does anyone has the same problem?

I'm not sure what the problem is.

Presumably, your startup page is set to www.google.com.  I have mine set
to my home directory.

I'm on slow dialup.  Every time any browser goes to a new page (even if
its been there before) it has to resolve it.  Very annoying. 

If this is the problem, you could install a caching name server that
would give a faster response.

Doug.


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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 13:35 -0500, David Shultz wrote:
 Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
 Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled 
 ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
 checked the isp nameserver and they are fine. 
 Does anyone has the same problem?
 
 --David 

By any chance, have you switched ISPs recently? You may still have the
DNS addresses of the old ISP, so everytime it resolves an IP, it has to
go to an outside nameserver, causing very long resolution time.
Just an idea...

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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread Freddy Freeloader

David Shultz wrote:

Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
Resolving www.google.com http://www.google.com and waits for about
15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
Does anyone has the same problem?

--David
This sounds like it could be a couple of things that I have run into. 

First, it could be an mDNS(multicast dns) problem.  That gave me fits 
for a while. 

I cured it one by uninstalling avahi-daemon, as I don't have use any 
software that relies on this function(I did this just to stop an 
unnecessary daemon), and also editing my /etc/resolv.conf file so it 
didn't contain a line that used the word local.   This word being in 
resolv.conf is/was a bug in Avahi-daemon, IIRC, that caused all DNS 
lookups to be run as mDNS lookups first, and then go to the nameserver 
picked up through dhcp, or in /etc/network/interfaces if you're using 
static ip addresses, when the mDNS queries finally time out.


Second was the ipv6 lookups.  I fixed that by blacklisting the ipv6 
module and all those extraneous dns queries disappeared.


The way I found the mDNS problem with extremely long url resolution 
times was to start an ethereal/wireshark packet capture, and then fire 
up my browser.  That's when I found that all dns queries were going to 
224.0.0.xxx (mDNS). 

I think the bug is now fixed as I just reinstalled a laptop a few days 
ago and I didn't have to make any changes in resolv.conf.  DNS worked 
correctly from the very first, and that hadn't happened with any Etch 
installs I'd done in the last month or so.



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Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread David Shultz

On 12/2/06, Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:35:34PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
 Whenever  I browse any website, mozilla says
 Resolving www.google.com and waits for about
 15 seconds to resolve the host. I've disabled
 ipv6 but the problem is still there. Also I've
 checked the isp nameserver and they are fine.
 Does anyone has the same problem?


If this is the problem, you could install a caching name server that
would give a faster response.

Doug.




Thanks Doug. Caching nameserver has done the trick.  I've setup
bind9 to act as a caching nameserver. Now it is a lot faster. Thanks
to forum members for their help.

--David


Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread David Shultz

With great regret, the problem has shown its ugly face
again. mozilla again shows: Resolving host www.google.com
and a delay. I didn't have any problem until yesterday
when it started.


By any chance, have you switched ISPs recently? You may
still have the DNS addresses of the old ISP, so everytime
it resolves an IP, it has to go to an outside nameserver


No I didn't change my isp.


I cured it one by uninstalling avahi-daemon, as I
don't have use any software that relies on this
function(I did this just to stop an unnecessary daemon)


I'm using Debian Sarge and after looking into Synaptic,
have found that there is no Avahi-daemon on debian
Sarge(stable). Is there anything else I should do?

--David


Re: Mozilla resolving host problem

2006-12-02 Thread W Paul Mills
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David Shultz wrote:
 With great regret, the problem has shown its ugly face
 again. mozilla again shows: Resolving host www.google.com
 http://www.google.com
 and a delay. I didn't have any problem until yesterday
 when it started.
 
 By any chance, have you switched ISPs recently? You may
 still have the DNS addresses of the old ISP, so everytime
 it resolves an IP, it has to go to an outside nameserver
 
 No I didn't change my isp.
 
 I cured it one by uninstalling avahi-daemon, as I
 don't have use any software that relies on this
 function(I did this just to stop an unnecessary daemon)
 
 I'm using Debian Sarge and after looking into Synaptic,
 have found that there is no Avahi-daemon on debian
 Sarge(stable). Is there anything else I should do?

Make sure your /etc/resolv.conf is still has it's reference
to your cacheing nameserver. Did bind9 stop for some reason.


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Re: resolving host

2004-10-01 Thread Ralph Katz
On 09/30/04 23:21, Haines Brown wrote:
Ralph Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do you get when you try to resolve the address directly?
Ex:
~$ time host www.debian.org
www.debian.org has address 194.109.137.218
real0m0.071s
user0m0.050s
sys 0m0.010s
That ain't molasses  :)

This opens a whole new perspective for me. Not to derail the thread,
but I get: 

$ time host www.debian.org
www.debian.org   A   194.109.137.218
real 0m0.027s
user 0m0.000s
sys  0m0.000s
The man and info time did not make clear to me what real, user and
sys refer to. Would you inlighten me? What is the A? Why zero time
for the user and sys?
Haines,
Beats me, I'm the average Joe that sits in this Ferrari called debian 
GNU/Linux and says, wow!  :)

Looks to me like  your computer is faster or less busy than mine.   man 
time does answer your question, but I can't explain it further.

Regards.

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Re: resolving host

2004-10-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 08:05:03PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
 On 09/30/04 23:21, Haines Brown wrote:

 $ time host www.debian.org
 www.debian.org   A   194.109.137.218
 
 real 0m0.027s
 user 0m0.000s
 sys  0m0.000s
 
 The man and info time did not make clear to me what real, user and
 sys refer to. Would you inlighten me? What is the A? Why zero time
 for the user and sys?
 
 Haines,
 
 Beats me, I'm the average Joe that sits in this Ferrari called debian 
 GNU/Linux and says, wow!  :)

As far as I understand, and I could be wrong -

real is the real world time taken for the command to run.
user is how long the command spent processing user-space code.
sys is how long the command spent processing kernel-space code.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: resolving host

2004-09-30 Thread Ralph Katz
Subject: resolving host
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:14:42 -0500
From: Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user

I wonder why browsing is so slow with Mozilla in
Debian (well, Libranet).
Using the ip addresses of websites it is blazing
fast.. but using the www address it is slower than
molasses in January.
Not just Mozilla, but even Firefox and Galeon 
behave the same way.

I do not have this problem in my FC2 box.
Any ideas? (besides dumping Libranet/Debian, I mean)..
  --- Your Name :)

It's certainly not true for the rest of us. :)
What do you get when you try to resolve the address directly?
Ex:
~$ time host www.debian.org
www.debian.org has address 194.109.137.218
real0m0.071s
user0m0.050s
sys 0m0.010s
That ain't molasses  :)

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Re: resolving host

2004-09-30 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thursday 30 September 2004 19:45, Ralph Katz wrote:
  Subject: resolving host
  Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:14:42 -0500
  From: Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
 
  I wonder why browsing is so slow with Mozilla in
  Debian (well, Libranet).
 
  Using the ip addresses of websites it is blazing
  fast.. but using the www address it is slower than
  molasses in January.
 
  Not just Mozilla, but even Firefox and Galeon
  behave the same way.
 
  I do not have this problem in my FC2 box.
 
  Any ideas? (besides dumping Libranet/Debian, I mean)..

What dns servers are you using in your resolv.conf?

the dig tool prints the time it took to resolve names - do some experimenting 
with it.

dnstracer can also be helpful.

are you running any dns caching utility, like nscd?  are they configured 
properly?

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