Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-09 Thread Dan Purgert
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 22:16:03 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>> > On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 20:51:55 (+0300), Nikos Macheras wrote:
>> >> On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> >> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >>There is a problem to a computer,
>> >> >>It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
>> >> >It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
>> >> >those files?
>> >> >Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
>> >> >up old files?
>> >> The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files),
>> >> after some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer
>> >> has not any port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs
>> >> debian wheezy .On cron i dont see something that could remove theese
>> >> files.
>> >> Any suggestion?
>> >
>> > [also]
>> >
>> >> The Download target was $HOME
>> >
>> > Whose $HOME? It would be bizarre to download a website into your own
>> > home directory. Someone changing files on the other side of the world
>> > could change files in your own home directory.
>> 
>> Well, if he's /Downloading/ something (e.g. the latest *.tgz for some
>> sourcecode), one would imagine it's HIS $HOME (or at least $HOME of the
>> currently logged in user).  This is the default action in Iceweasel --
>> or, at least on my install it was.
>> 
>> Or have I missed something somewhere?  Seems the thread got broken
>> somewhere, so not 100% certain if this is the latest info ... 
>
> The OP hasn't posted a lot of information, so I made some assumptions.
>
> He mentions httrack and 45 files, so I assumed he was downloading a website
> rather than, say, a single tgz. httrack would be overkill for that.
> But how would you like someone else's website to determine your own
> home directory's files and folder structure.

Ah, I see what you're getting at now -- the split in the thread threw me
off what you were getting at with "someone else determining file/folder
structure".  I mean, if the intention was "download some remote
directory in its entirety", you would pretty much start at "what they
decided", and go from there (or at least I do when running wget / curl).


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Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 22:16:03 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 20:51:55 (+0300), Nikos Macheras wrote:
> >> On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >>There is a problem to a computer,
> >> >>It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
> >> >It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
> >> >those files?
> >> >Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
> >> >up old files?
> >> The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files),
> >> after some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer
> >> has not any port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs
> >> debian wheezy .On cron i dont see something that could remove theese
> >> files.
> >> Any suggestion?
> >
> > [also]
> >
> >> The Download target was $HOME
> >
> > Whose $HOME? It would be bizarre to download a website into your own
> > home directory. Someone changing files on the other side of the world
> > could change files in your own home directory.
> 
> Well, if he's /Downloading/ something (e.g. the latest *.tgz for some
> sourcecode), one would imagine it's HIS $HOME (or at least $HOME of the
> currently logged in user).  This is the default action in Iceweasel --
> or, at least on my install it was.
> 
> Or have I missed something somewhere?  Seems the thread got broken
> somewhere, so not 100% certain if this is the latest info ... 

The OP hasn't posted a lot of information, so I made some assumptions.

He mentions httrack and 45 files, so I assumed he was downloading a website
rather than, say, a single tgz. httrack would be overkill for that.
But how would you like someone else's website to determine your own
home directory's files and folder structure.

The httrack manual documents this option:

 X *purge old files after update

where * is the default value.

This does imply that httrack can remove files as well as download them
(ie it tracks the files hosted somewhere else). The FAQ contains at
one point:
"Therefore, all other files have been deleted to show the current
state of the website!"

Hence my suggestion, as requested.

Cheers,
David.



Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-08 Thread Dan Purgert
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 20:51:55 (+0300), Nikos Macheras wrote:
>> On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>There is a problem to a computer,
>> >>It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
>> >It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
>> >those files?
>> >Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
>> >up old files?
>> The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files),
>> after some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer
>> has not any port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs
>> debian wheezy .On cron i dont see something that could remove theese
>> files.
>> Any suggestion?
>
> [also]
>
>> The Download target was $HOME
>
> Whose $HOME? It would be bizarre to download a website into your own
> home directory. Someone changing files on the other side of the world
> could change files in your own home directory.

Well, if he's /Downloading/ something (e.g. the latest *.tgz for some
sourcecode), one would imagine it's HIS $HOME (or at least $HOME of the
currently logged in user).  This is the default action in Iceweasel --
or, at least on my install it was.

Or have I missed something somewhere?  Seems the thread got broken
somewhere, so not 100% certain if this is the latest info ... 


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Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-08 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2016-06-08, śro o godzinie 20:51 +0300, Nikos Macheras pisze:
> 
> On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello to list,
> >>
> >> There is a problem to a computer,
> >> It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
> > It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
> > those files?
> >
> > Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
> > up old files?
> >
> > Is there any other repeatable pattern?
> >
> >> rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX ,
> >> shows a healthy hard disk.
> >>
> >> Any suggestion?
> > Tell us more :-)
> >
> > regards
> > - -- t
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> >
> >
> Hello,
> The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files), after 
> some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer has not any 
> port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs debian wheezy .On 
> cron i dont see something that could remove theese files.
> Any suggestion?
> 
> 

1. Check logs.
2. Which fs on home?




Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 08 Jun 2016 at 20:51:55 (+0300), Nikos Macheras wrote:
> On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>There is a problem to a computer,
> >>It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
> >It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
> >those files?
> >Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
> >up old files?
> The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files),
> after some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer
> has not any port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs
> debian wheezy .On cron i dont see something that could remove theese
> files.
> Any suggestion?

[also]

> The Download target was $HOME

Whose $HOME? It would be bizarre to download a website into your own
home directory. Someone changing files on the other side of the world
could change files in your own home directory.

How familiar are you with httrack? One of its own abilities is to
remove downloaded files without any specific action by yourself.
That's because it tracks.

What's in the logs (httrack's, that is)?

Cheers,
David.



Re: Lose Files, rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit, healthy hard disk

2016-06-08 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2016-06-08, śro o godzinie 21:20 +0300, Nikos Macheras pisze:
> 
> On 06/07/2016 02:52 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello to list,
> >>
> >> There is a problem to a computer,
> >> It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
> >> rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX , shows a
> >> healthy hard disk.
> >>
> >> Any suggestion?
> > Where's your "Download" target?  $HOME/Downloads, $HOME, somewhere else?
> >
> >
> >
> Hello,
> The Download target was $HOME
> 
> thank you
> Nikos Macheras
> 

In this case, my every time first checkpoint is to check /usr/sbin/sshd
- is it changed to another file? - check for size, md5/sha sum or ev.
do binary diff.

BTW. Did You checked syslog/dmesg/messages/etc?

Exim is installed? What version?




Re: Lose Files, rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit, healthy hard disk

2016-06-08 Thread Nikos Macheras



On 06/07/2016 02:52 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:

perlj...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello to list,

There is a problem to a computer,
It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX , shows a
healthy hard disk.

Any suggestion?

Where's your "Download" target?  $HOME/Downloads, $HOME, somewhere else?




Hello,
The Download target was $HOME

thank you
Nikos Macheras



Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-08 Thread Nikos Macheras



On 06/07/2016 01:50 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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Hash: SHA1

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello to list,

There is a problem to a computer,
It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.

It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
those files?

Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
up old files?

Is there any other repeatable pattern?


rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX ,
shows a healthy hard disk.

Any suggestion?

Tell us more :-)

regards
- -- t
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=zGyk
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Hello,
The last time, was with httrack, after download files (45 files), after 
some minutes dissapeared. repeated three times. The computer has not any 
port open on external interfaces (eth0,wlan0), it runs debian wheezy .On 
cron i dont see something that could remove theese files.

Any suggestion?




Re: Lose Files, rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit, healthy hard disk

2016-06-07 Thread Dan Purgert
perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello to list,
>
> There is a problem to a computer,
> It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
> rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX , shows a 
> healthy hard disk.
>
> Any suggestion?

Where's your "Download" target?  $HOME/Downloads, $HOME, somewhere else?



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Lose Files, rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit, healthy hard disk

2016-06-07 Thread perljpes

Hello to list,

There is a problem to a computer,
It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX , shows a 
healthy hard disk.


Any suggestion?

Thank you Nikos Macheras



Re: rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-07 Thread tomas
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 01:29:28PM +0300, perlj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello to list,
> 
> There is a problem to a computer,
> It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.

It *only* loses files downloaded from the internet? How do you download
those files?

Are you sure that this isn't something (perhaps the browser) cleaning
up old files?

Is there any other repeatable pattern?

> rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX ,
> shows a healthy hard disk.
> 
> Any suggestion?

Tell us more :-)

regards
- -- t
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rkhunter -c, doesnt show any rootkit

2016-06-07 Thread perljpes

Hello to list,

There is a problem to a computer,
It loses files, not very often, files downloaded from internet.
rkhunter -c,  doesnt show any rootkit, smartctl --all /dev/sdX , shows a 
healthy hard disk.


Any suggestion?

Thank you Nikos Macheras