Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
 I don't want to go too far forward, because I DO NOT want kde4
 installed, EVER. I run gnome/lxde, and my wife runs kde3.. She is
 already mad because people email her with M$ powerpoint attachments, and
 we hear no sound from them... isn't that what youtube is for? I cannot
 understand why people will send 9Mb powerpoint attachments of a youtube
 video, instead of a LINK to the video!( but that is another thread for
 another day:)


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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:08:02 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 I run rkhunter, and today I got this report:
 
 Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and
 possibly a security risk. 
 Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8n', is out of date, and 
 possibly a security risk. 
 Warning: Application 'sshd', version '5.5p1', is out of date, and
 possibly a security risk.
 
 
 I am running Lenny, up-2-date.. is this something I can do anything
 about?

Nothing to worry about.

rkhunter will give you such warnings for every aplication you have 
configured to be tracked and upstream had released a newer version.

Current GPG is 1.4.11 (and yours is 1.4.10)
Current openssl is 1.0.0.b (and yours is 0.9.8n)
Current sshd is 5.6 (and yours is 5.5p1)

But you know how Debian stable works for this: no newer versions are made 
available but just security patches until stable gets discontinued.

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/20/2010 07:07 PM, Brian wrote:
 Slapper Worm: . . . . spreads on Linux machines by using a flaw
 discovered in August 2002 in OpenSSL libraries. (www.f-secure.com). And
 the flaw hasn't been fixed?
don't have that one, good info though!

 You'll have to make your own mind up about the value of rkhunter. Go
 through what it claims to detect one by one.
thanks, I'll do that. I noticed that I was 2 revs behind, so at least I
got to update rkhunter to 1.3.8 :)
I keep forgetting apps that aren't updated by apt.. I wish there was a
universal tool to find all apps not installed by apt  check for updates..

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/20/2010 06:34 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 I recommend it, but there aren't that many packages in it anyway so you are 
 likely not missing anything.
I added it back did an update, and I think it did find 1 or 2 apps to
update.. nothing.. that I could see, that might be a security issue..

 Volatile is meant for updates to packages whose usefulness naturally degrades 
 as time passes, like virus scanners and spam filters.  IIRC, occasionally IM 
 software is even updated when proprietary protocols change.  Basically stuff 
 that loses functionality because of reasons outside of Debian's control.  In 
 some ways it overlaps with backports, since new upstream versions are allowed 
 in some cases.  It has been official much longer than backports, IIRC.
yeah, like rkhunter. I was running 1.3.6 and 1.3.8 is the latest..

 It isn't appropriate for fixing security flaws; that's what the security 
 repository is for.  It isn't for new upstream versions because the new 
 version 
 has additional features that the old version is lacking; that's what the 
 backports repository is for.
I don't want to go too far forward, because I DO NOT want kde4
installed, EVER. I run gnome/lxde, and my wife runs kde3.. She is
already mad because people email her with M$ powerpoint attachments, and
we hear no sound from them... isn't that what youtube is for? I cannot
understand why people will send 9Mb powerpoint attachments of a youtube
video, instead of a LINK to the video!( but that is another thread for
another day:)

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 11. 2010 13:35:21 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a):

already mad because people email her with M$ powerpoint attachments,  
and

we hear no sound from them... isn't that what youtube is for? I cannot
understand why people will send 9Mb powerpoint attachments of a  
youtube

video, instead of a LINK to the video!( but that is another thread for
another day:)


It's not about understanding, in that they usually don't do it for a  
reason but because they don't know better. The only way is gently  
educating them, pointing out that a simple link is better, and  
explaining *why* it's better.

This, of course, is a never-ending task, because:
a) there will always be new users to whom you'll have to explain it all  
over again; and
b) some people simply *refuse* to memorize such stuff, even if forced  
at gunpoint.


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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Paul Cartwright wrote:
 I have volatile commented out in my sources.list.. should I be using it?
 
 I recommend it, but there aren't that many packages in it anyway so you are 
 likely not missing anything.

I also recommend using volatile.

 Volatile is meant for updates to packages whose usefulness naturally
 degrades as time passes, like virus scanners and spam filters.
 ...

Another example of a package in volatile is tzdata.  Time zones change
when Daylight Savings Time start and end by Act of Congress in the US
(and by other legislative bodies outside) beyond the control of a
stable release.  This needs to be updated when it changes.  So the
package is in volatile such that it can be updated as needed.  But the
behavior provided is not changed from release to release.

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/21/2010 09:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
 I also recommend using volatile.

thanks!
  Volatile is meant for updates to packages whose usefulness naturally
  degrades as time passes, like virus scanners and spam filters.
  ...
 Another example of a package in volatile is tzdata.  Time zones change
 when Daylight Savings Time start and end by Act of Congress in the US
 (and by other legislative bodies outside) beyond the control of a
 stable release.  This needs to be updated when it changes.  So the
 package is in volatile such that it can be updated as needed.  But the
 behavior provided is not changed from release to release.
I seem to recall that was one of the packages that got updated after I
took out the comment from the volatile line..

ii  tzdata 2010o-0lenny1  time zone and daylight-saving time data

luckily my alarm clock has a DST button that puts the time back like it
should.. But I still have have to manually STOP my Seth Thomas mantel
clock:) old school, but I love it!

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rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
I run rkhunter, and today I got this report:

Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and possibly a 
security risk.
Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8n', is out of date, and possibly 
a security risk.
Warning: Application 'sshd', version '5.5p1', is out of date, and possibly a 
security risk.


I am running Lenny, up-2-date.. is this something I can do anything about?

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4ce7c832.7010...@pcartwright.com, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I run rkhunter, and today I got this report:

Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and possibly a
security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8n', is out of
date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'sshd', version
'5.5p1', is out of date, and possibly a security risk.


I am running Lenny, up-2-date.. is this something I can do anything about?

Well, it would help if rkhunter was more specific.  The Debian security team 
will sometimes take security fixes from newer releases and apply them to the 
packages in stable without bumping the version number reported by the 
software.

I does look like gnupg and openssl have received some updates since the 
Lenny release, and openssl got some from the security team specifically.  
openssh-server hasn't been updated since the Lenny release, AFAIK.

If there is a specific vulnerability you are concerned about, asking on 
debian-security for the status of a fix might be appropriate.  As far as 
unknown threats go, there may be security flaws in the Lenny versions that are 
fixed upstream, but there may also be new flaws introduced upstream and are 
not in the Lenny versions.

Debian policy is that no new upstream versions enter stable, so if you would 
be more comfortable with newer versions, you'll have to pull from backports, 
testing, unstable, or possibly even experimental.  gnupg 1.4.11 is in 
experimental; openssl 0.9.8o is in testing and unstable; openssh-server 5.6p1 
is in experimental.  During a freeze (like now) some packages are uploaded to 
experimental instead of unstable not for any package(ing) specific reason, but 
to make fixing RC bugs in testing easier.  After the freeze you should see 
these (or newer) versions uploaded to unstable within days.
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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/20/2010 03:14 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and possibly a
 security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8n', is out of
 date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'sshd', version
 '5.5p1', is out of date, and possibly a security risk.
 
  

 I does look like gnupg and openssl have received some updates since the 
 Lenny release, and openssl got some from the security team specifically.  
 openssh-server hasn't been updated since the Lenny release, AFAIK.

 If there is a specific vulnerability you are concerned about, asking on 
 debian-security for the status of a fix might be appropriate.  As far as 
 unknown threats go, there may be security flaws in the Lenny versions that 
 are 
 fixed upstream, but there may also be new flaws introduced upstream and are 
 not in the Lenny versions.
I am not so much concerned about about vulnerability as I am rkhunter
giving me a warning about up-2-date apps..
openssl might concern me, because I use ssl.. same with ssh.. since MOST
of what I do is behind my router, I am not very public internet facing..
I just don't like getting messages that tell me something is NOT
uptodate, when I am ALWAYS up to date..


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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4ce82f6e.3030...@pcartwright.com, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 11/20/2010 03:14 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and
 possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version
 '0.9.8n', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning:
 Application 'sshd', version '5.5p1', is out of date, and possibly a
 security risk.
 
 If there is a specific vulnerability you are concerned about, asking on
 debian-security for the status of a fix might be appropriate.

I am not so much concerned about about vulnerability as I am rkhunter
giving me a warning about up-2-date apps..

File a bug against rkhunter, then.

I just don't like getting messages that tell me something is NOT
uptodate, when I am ALWAYS up to date..

Many people don't consider Debian stable up-to-date even with packages from 
security.debian.org and volatile.debian.org in use.  It is possible that the 
development / release team of rkhunter contains some of those people.
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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/20/2010 03:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 File a bug against rkhunter, then.
that is a thought..
 I just don't like getting messages that tell me something is NOT
 uptodate, when I am ALWAYS up to date..
 Many people don't consider Debian stable up-to-date even with packages from 
 security.debian.org and volatile.debian.org in use.  It is possible that the 
 development / release team of rkhunter contains some of those people.
 -- 
I have volatile commented out in my sources.list.. should I be using it?
 sources.list:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://security.us.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://tovid.sourceforge.net/download/debian lenny contrib
deb-src http://tovid.sourceforge.net/download/debian lenny contrib
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ lenny non-free
deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free

# End of suggested Stable repos ###
### EXTERNAL SOURCES ###
 
# for avasys for Epson printing
deb http://www.da-cha.jp/debian/dists/etch ./
 
#backports go here:
deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
# added linuxfoundation-openprinting for HPLIP
deb http://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/debian/ lsb3.2 main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates contrib
non-free main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates contrib
non-free main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates contrib non-free main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates contrib non-free main
 
##spotify
deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
 

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Norbert Zeh
Paul Cartwright [2010.11.20 1528 -0500]:
 On 11/20/2010 03:14 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
  Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.10', is out of date, and 
  possibly a
  security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8n', is out of
  date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'sshd', version
  '5.5p1', is out of date, and possibly a security risk.
  
   
 
  I does look like gnupg and openssl have received some updates since the 
  Lenny release, and openssl got some from the security team specifically.  
  openssh-server hasn't been updated since the Lenny release, AFAIK.
 
  If there is a specific vulnerability you are concerned about, asking on 
  debian-security for the status of a fix might be appropriate.  As far as 
  unknown threats go, there may be security flaws in the Lenny versions that 
  are 
  fixed upstream, but there may also be new flaws introduced upstream and are 
  not in the Lenny versions.
 I am not so much concerned about about vulnerability as I am rkhunter
 giving me a warning about up-2-date apps..
 openssl might concern me, because I use ssl.. same with ssh.. since MOST
 of what I do is behind my router, I am not very public internet facing..
 I just don't like getting messages that tell me something is NOT
 uptodate, when I am ALWAYS up to date..

If I recall correctly from a previous thread on this list, rkhunter
simply tests whether you have the most recent version of these
applications installed and warns you if you don't.  I simply ignored
these warnings when I got them.  If I understand the documentation of
rkhunter (which is very sparse) correctly, you can eliminate these
warnings by adding

ATTRWHITELIST=path to gpg

and the same for anything else you get these warnings for to
/etc/rkhunter.conf.  Again, if I understand correctly, this will also
turn off other attribute checks for these programs, including uid/gid,
etc.  Since these may be useful checks to detect malicious modifications
on your system, you may not want to do this.

Cheers,
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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Nov 2010 at 15:28:30 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 I just don't like getting messages that tell me something is NOT
 uptodate, when I am ALWAYS up to date..

Well, don't run applications which output spurious warnings as a matter
of course. Purging rkhunter will do wonders for your blood pressure
without endangering your system.


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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread gun_smoke
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:46:57PM +, Brian wrote:
 
 Well, don't run applications which output spurious warnings as a matter
 of course. Purging rkhunter will do wonders for your blood pressure
 without endangering your system.
 

I agree.


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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/20/2010 03:46 PM, Brian wrote:
 Well, don't run applications which output spurious warnings as a matter
 of course. Purging rkhunter will do wonders for your blood pressure
 without endangering your system.
are you saying rkhunter is not worth running?

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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4ce83a40.5030...@pcartwright.com, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 11/20/2010 03:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 Many people don't consider Debian stable up-to-date even with packages
 from security.debian.org and volatile.debian.org in use.  It is possible
 that the development / release team of rkhunter contains some of those
 people.

I have volatile commented out in my sources.list.. should I be using it?

I recommend it, but there aren't that many packages in it anyway so you are 
likely not missing anything.

Volatile is meant for updates to packages whose usefulness naturally degrades 
as time passes, like virus scanners and spam filters.  IIRC, occasionally IM 
software is even updated when proprietary protocols change.  Basically stuff 
that loses functionality because of reasons outside of Debian's control.  In 
some ways it overlaps with backports, since new upstream versions are allowed 
in some cases.  It has been official much longer than backports, IIRC.

It isn't appropriate for fixing security flaws; that's what the security 
repository is for.  It isn't for new upstream versions because the new version 
has additional features that the old version is lacking; that's what the 
backports repository is for.
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Re: rkhunter report

2010-11-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Nov 2010 at 16:50:59 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 are you saying rkhunter is not worth running?

Chosen at random.

beX2, portacelo and devil rootkits: Distinguished by there being no
evidence for their existence. A doctor telling me to avoid contracting
beX2, portacelo or devil disease would get raised eyebrows in the same
situation.

Slapper Worm: . . . . spreads on Linux machines by using a flaw
discovered in August 2002 in OpenSSL libraries. (www.f-secure.com). And
the flaw hasn't been fixed?

You'll have to make your own mind up about the value of rkhunter. Go
through what it claims to detect one by one.


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Re: rkhunter report. Como interpreta-lo?

2008-11-10 Thread Fabiano Pires
Verifique se você fez alguma alteração recente no pacote que contém os
arquivos citados (talvez via apt/aptitude upgrade).

Fabiano.

2008/11/9 Marcelo Laia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tenho recebido relatorios do rkhunter como segue:

 Warning: The file properties have changed:
File: /bin/egrep
Current hash: 8ce634e37e97917e5ab82f2570e0cf21b926ebb2
Stored hash : c39118a2bbeebeb22cd67f0907b8455d2da5fc06
Current inode: 293334Stored inode: 293195
Current size: 92276Stored size: 92436
Current file modification time: 1220202404
Stored file modification time : 1204239085
 Warning: The file properties have changed:
File: /bin/fgrep
Current hash: 49fa068f38c23396280c9031bd49709a8d2159ad
Stored hash : be5c2b7c374c4a42fb35b58871fedeb8ec5dcf30
Current inode: 293343Stored inode: 293196
Current size: 55344Stored size: 52880
Current file modification time: 1220202404
Stored file modification time : 1204239085

 etc Todos Warning e com os mesmos dizeres: troca de hash.

 Devo me preocupar com isso?

 O que fazer?

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rkhunter report. Como interpreta-lo?

2008-11-09 Thread Marcelo Laia
Tenho recebido relatorios do rkhunter como segue:

Warning: The file properties have changed:
File: /bin/egrep
Current hash: 8ce634e37e97917e5ab82f2570e0cf21b926ebb2
Stored hash : c39118a2bbeebeb22cd67f0907b8455d2da5fc06
Current inode: 293334Stored inode: 293195
Current size: 92276Stored size: 92436
Current file modification time: 1220202404
Stored file modification time : 1204239085
Warning: The file properties have changed:
File: /bin/fgrep
Current hash: 49fa068f38c23396280c9031bd49709a8d2159ad
Stored hash : be5c2b7c374c4a42fb35b58871fedeb8ec5dcf30
Current inode: 293343Stored inode: 293196
Current size: 55344Stored size: 52880
Current file modification time: 1220202404
Stored file modification time : 1204239085

etc Todos Warning e com os mesmos dizeres: troca de hash.

Devo me preocupar com isso?

O que fazer?

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rkhunter report issues?

2008-08-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
Does this mean anything?

Warning: The file properties have changed:
 File: /bin/login
 Current hash: 9092a50dbbf0b16b095a1ee22e9bfb2a9e0f9a21
 Stored hash : b333555dccebeca07909fdc9c53160f5e399d4f6
 Current inode: 2068498Stored inode: 2071401
 Current size: 35236Stored size: 35268
 Current file modification time: 1217093050
 Stored file modification time : 1207180658
Warning: The file properties have changed:
 File: /bin/mktemp
 Current hash: cb8928cb9aba84186d11744596a75dfd2bd420bc
 Stored hash : ac19f5e6d493de185416217febced0a32a13fa9d
 Current inode: 2068445Stored inode: 2070399
 Current size: 6672Stored size: 6824
 Current file modification time: 1218814174
 Stored file modification time : 1202665904
Warning: The file properties have changed:
 File: /bin/su
 Current hash: 7fb5d1b369ffa2b22f89e51adf2dee61e5b0fb58
 Stored hash : 3c1672c591311d42dc48439d7cf0791e54d1af28
 Current inode: 2068500Stored inode: 2071402
 Current file modification time: 1217093050
 Stored file modification time : 1207180658


I'm not sure what to look at, or if there is even a problem:
# ls -l /bin/su
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 27108 2008-07-26 13:24 /bin/su
 # uname -a
Linux paulandcilla 2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 17:46:56 UTC 2008 i686
GNU/Linux
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Re: rkhunter report issues?

2008-08-26 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-08-26 15:07, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 Does this mean anything?
 
 Warning: The file properties have changed:
  File: /bin/login
  Current hash: 9092a50dbbf0b16b095a1ee22e9bfb2a9e0f9a21
  Stored hash : b333555dccebeca07909fdc9c53160f5e399d4f6
  Current inode: 2068498Stored inode: 2071401
  Current size: 35236Stored size: 35268
  Current file modification time: 1217093050
  Stored file modification time : 1207180658
[snip]

IIUC, this means that those files have been changed since the last time
you ran 'rkhunter --propupd'. This could have either been a hacker or it
was you, eg. via installing a (security) update. It's up to 'inform'
rkhunter on any system files that get updated.

Hint: on lenny, my 'login' was last updated on 2008-08-15.

 I'm not sure what to look at, or if there is even a problem:
 # ls -l /bin/su
 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 27108 2008-07-26 13:24 /bin/su

If this file has been changed by YOU it is ok, if it has been changed by
someone else... probably not.

HTH,
Johannes




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