Re: I had the same problem and I fixed it.

2007-05-12 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:23:03AM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:

> It is because he is posting through the forum at debianhelp.org.  Of
> course, since there is no note there indicating that the posting go
> through to a mailing list and context would be helpful.  The best thing
> would be for someone to let them know that they need to fix their site,
> or you can just have your MUA filter the messages that include
> debianhelp.org in the headers (except for maybe the In-Reply-To header).
> Anyhow, this was discussed a few days ago on this list.  You can search
> the archive for the discussion.

The web forums force people to change subject lines and remove context?

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Re: I had the same problem and I fixed it.

2007-05-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:50:14AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:25:49PM +0200, chadjensen wrote:
> > 
> > I had the same problem just barely and I fixed by going to the "users and 
> > groups" section and giving permissions to the user. It must be a bug in an 
> > update or something that wipes out the users permissions. users and 
> > groups->highlight user->"properties" and change it from there.
> > chad
> 
> Chad, note that your message above is effectively useless.  You changed the
> subject line, so there's no way for anyone to know what "the same problem"
> is, and also cut out all the context for the same result.

It is because he is posting through the forum at debianhelp.org.  Of
course, since there is no note there indicating that the posting go
through to a mailing list and context would be helpful.  The best thing
would be for someone to let them know that they need to fix their site,
or you can just have your MUA filter the messages that include
debianhelp.org in the headers (except for maybe the In-Reply-To header).
Anyhow, this was discussed a few days ago on this list.  You can search
the archive for the discussion.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: I had the same problem and I fixed it.

2007-05-12 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:25:49PM +0200, chadjensen wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem just barely and I fixed by going to the "users and 
> groups" section and giving permissions to the user. It must be a bug in an 
> update or something that wipes out the users permissions. users and 
> groups->highlight user->"properties" and change it from there.
> chad

Chad, note that your message above is effectively useless.  You changed the
subject line, so there's no way for anyone to know what "the same problem"
is, and also cut out all the context for the same result.
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I had the same problem and I fixed it.

2007-05-12 Thread chadjensen


I had the same problem just barely and I fixed by going to the "users and groups" section and 
giving permissions to the user. It must be a bug in an update or something that wipes out the users 
permissions. users and groups->highlight user->"properties" and change it from there.
chad


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Re: same problem

2007-05-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:09:53AM +0100, David Claughton wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> >
> >you know, I was thinking that same thing... as I work may way down the
> >list of mails this morning, I couldn't recall what the heck "same
> >problem" was about. This whole changing the subject thing is really
> >frustrating. I'm thinking of just blackholing anything from
> >debianhelp.org. ugh.
> >
> >A
> 
> To be fair (as I pointed out in other thread), it's not so much the idea
> of a forum gateway that's bad, just debianhelp's poor implementation (IMHO).

I agree. Getiing people the help they need is a good thing. But
getting them help in a mis-guided way may be more damaging in the
longrun. 

A


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Re: same problem

2007-05-04 Thread David Claughton

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:



you know, I was thinking that same thing... as I work may way down the
list of mails this morning, I couldn't recall what the heck "same
problem" was about. This whole changing the subject thing is really
frustrating. I'm thinking of just blackholing anything from
debianhelp.org. ugh.

A


To be fair (as I pointed out in other thread), it's not so much the idea
of a forum gateway that's bad, just debianhelp's poor implementation (IMHO).

I've recently discovered nabble.com which does the same thing only 
properly.  It can be very useful for reading/posting to this list from 
another computer - in my case from work where I cannot access my home 
email account.  And of course gmane also has a web interface which I've 
also used.


Just my .02 cents.

Dave.


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Re: same problem

2007-05-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:32:58AM -0400, KS wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:00:19PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
> >> On 05/03/2007 01:43 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:10:22PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>>>> ack!
> >>>>> mutt... :-)
> >>>> Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
> >>>> triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
> >>>> can ignore.
> >>> meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
> >>> unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!
> >>>
> >> Icedove/thunderbird: "t" marks the whole thread as read and puts you at
> >> the next unread mail. ;)
> > 
> > shift-t .*Katz;d
> > 
> > marks all mail from Katz and deletes it!! nya nya!
> > 
> > 
> > kidding, just kidding.
> > 
> > A
> > 
> 
> *D* marks this very thread as drifting from the main subject - which is
> normal on such a list, but is funny when we don't even know the subject :p
> 

you know, I was thinking that same thing... as I work may way down the
list of mails this morning, I couldn't recall what the heck "same
problem" was about. This whole changing the subject thing is really
frustrating. I'm thinking of just blackholing anything from
debianhelp.org. ugh.

A


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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:32:58AM -0400, KS wrote:

> >>> meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
> >>> unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!
> >>>
> >> Icedove/thunderbird: "t" marks the whole thread as read and puts you at
> >> the next unread mail. ;)
> > 
> > shift-t .*Katz;d
> > 
> > marks all mail from Katz and deletes it!! nya nya!
> > 
> > 
> > kidding, just kidding.
> > 
> > A
> > 
> 
> *D* marks this very thread as drifting from the main subject - which is
> normal on such a list, but is funny when we don't even know the subject :p

Then maybe a Ctrl-D to delete the whole thread ;)

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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread KS
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:00:19PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
>> On 05/03/2007 01:43 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:10:22PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> ack!
> mutt... :-)
 Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
 triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
 can ignore.
>>> meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
>>> unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!
>>>
>> Icedove/thunderbird: "t" marks the whole thread as read and puts you at
>> the next unread mail. ;)
> 
> shift-t .*Katz;d
> 
> marks all mail from Katz and deletes it!! nya nya!
> 
> 
> kidding, just kidding.
> 
> A
> 

*D* marks this very thread as drifting from the main subject - which is
normal on such a list, but is funny when we don't even know the subject :p

/KS


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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:00:19PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:
> On 05/03/2007 01:43 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:10:22PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>> ack!
> >>> mutt... :-)
> >> Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
> >> triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
> >> can ignore.
> > 
> > meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
> > unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!
> > 
> 
> Icedove/thunderbird: "t" marks the whole thread as read and puts you at
> the next unread mail. ;)

shift-t .*Katz;d

marks all mail from Katz and deletes it!! nya nya!


kidding, just kidding.

A



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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Ralph Katz
On 05/03/2007 01:43 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:10:22PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> ack!
>>> mutt... :-)
>> Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
>> triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
>> can ignore.
> 
> meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
> unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!
> 

Icedove/thunderbird: "t" marks the whole thread as read and puts you at
the next unread mail. ;)

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:10:22PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> > ack!
> > mutt... :-)
> 
> Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
> triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
> can ignore.

meh. ctrl-r marks the whole thread as read and puts you at the next
unread mail. thpbtbthth!!!


A


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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 03 May 2007 12:10:22 -0400
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 08:18:04AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:

[snip]

> > > After spending a few months on this list, I have to say I really hate
> > > web forums now.  All that stupid clicking, when with IceDove I can just
> > > hit the spacebar.
> > 
> > ack!
> > mutt... :-)
> 
> Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
> triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
> can ignore.

For me the key is offline reading; suck in several hundred messages
from a public hotspot and read at my convenience.

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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 07:51 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 08:18:04AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> > Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > 
> > > how apropos this all is. I've sent a nice little feedback to the
> > > debianhelp.org folks. I pointed out that they were causing untold
> > > grief over here and were probably *NOT* helping their users as they
> > > were all getting fried to a crisp over here. A kindly asked them if
> > > they could post some guidelines for using the portal to debian-user
> > > properly. I'll let you all know what, if any, response I get. 
> > > 
> > > I'm guessing from the tone of your previous message , Florian, that
> > > you've already tried this without success...
> > 
> > I hope they listen.  It would make it much easier to understand some of
> > the messages.
> > 
> > After spending a few months on this list, I have to say I really hate
> > web forums now.  All that stupid clicking, when with IceDove I can just
> > hit the spacebar.
> 
> ack!
> mutt... :-)

Evolution! Except I just use my clicky-pointy thinger on the little
triangle in front of the root of the thread. Then I just get one line I
can ignore.
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Re: same problem

2007-05-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 08:18:04AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> > how apropos this all is. I've sent a nice little feedback to the
> > debianhelp.org folks. I pointed out that they were causing untold
> > grief over here and were probably *NOT* helping their users as they
> > were all getting fried to a crisp over here. A kindly asked them if
> > they could post some guidelines for using the portal to debian-user
> > properly. I'll let you all know what, if any, response I get. 
> > 
> > I'm guessing from the tone of your previous message , Florian, that
> > you've already tried this without success...
> 
> I hope they listen.  It would make it much easier to understand some of
> the messages.
> 
> After spending a few months on this list, I have to say I really hate
> web forums now.  All that stupid clicking, when with IceDove I can just
> hit the spacebar.

ack!
mutt... :-)

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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Joe Hart
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
>> He/she uses debianhelp.org. Over there they simply do not understand
>> that the Debian user list does not look like this
>>
>> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/5890
>>
>> to most of us. Instead they are probably wondering why there is so much
>> redundant content quoted in the threads in some of "their" forums.
> 
> how apropos this all is. I've sent a nice little feedback to the
> debianhelp.org folks. I pointed out that they were causing untold
> grief over here and were probably *NOT* helping their users as they
> were all getting fried to a crisp over here. A kindly asked them if
> they could post some guidelines for using the portal to debian-user
> properly. I'll let you all know what, if any, response I get. 
> 
> I'm guessing from the tone of your previous message , Florian, that
> you've already tried this without success...

I hope they listen.  It would make it much easier to understand some of
the messages.

After spending a few months on this list, I have to say I really hate
web forums now.  All that stupid clicking, when with IceDove I can just
hit the spacebar.

Joe

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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:41:18PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 17:28:16 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 22:15 +0200, cat Behemoth wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
[...]
> > 
> > Read The Fine Manual and also properly read and understand the
> > following:
> > 
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > 
> > BTW, this is my part of helping out potential Trolls.

Greg, your good deed is done. you may now return to flaming the
under-bridge dwellers ;-)

> 
> He/she uses debianhelp.org. Over there they simply do not understand
> that the Debian user list does not look like this
> 
> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/5890
> 
> to most of us. Instead they are probably wondering why there is so much
> redundant content quoted in the threads in some of "their" forums.

how apropos this all is. I've sent a nice little feedback to the
debianhelp.org folks. I pointed out that they were causing untold
grief over here and were probably *NOT* helping their users as they
were all getting fried to a crisp over here. A kindly asked them if
they could post some guidelines for using the portal to debian-user
properly. I'll let you all know what, if any, response I get. 

I'm guessing from the tone of your previous message , Florian, that
you've already tried this without success...

A


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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 17:28:16 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 22:15 +0200, cat Behemoth wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > funny but i am experiencing the same problem with my fujitsu-siemens pc. I 
> > can only open few sites: www.google.com, www.ya.ru.
> > I've tried all advices listed above and it aint help:(
> > I wonder where else i can have a look for the answer...
> 
> Read The Fine Manual and also properly read and understand the
> following:
> 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> BTW, this is my part of helping out potential Trolls.

He/she uses debianhelp.org. Over there they simply do not understand
that the Debian user list does not look like this

http://www.debianhelp.org/node/5890

to most of us. Instead they are probably wondering why there is so much
redundant content quoted in the threads in some of "their" forums.

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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 22:15 +0200, cat Behemoth wrote:
> Hi guys,
> funny but i am experiencing the same problem with my fujitsu-siemens pc. I 
> can only open few sites: www.google.com, www.ya.ru.
> I've tried all advices listed above and it aint help:(
> I wonder where else i can have a look for the answer...

Read The Fine Manual and also properly read and understand the
following:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

BTW, this is my part of helping out potential Trolls.
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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:15:19PM +0200, cat Behemoth wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,

hi.

> funny but i am experiencing the same problem with my fujitsu-siemens pc. I 
> can only open few sites: www.google.com, www.ya.ru.

you know what's funny? you posted to a forum that is a gateway to the
debian-user mailing list. That means that the post you submitted is
sent just as you wrote it to some several hundred mailing list
subscribers. There is no reference to a previous subject. you've
changed the subject line so there is nothing to remind us of what the
original topic was. sure, I could open my archives and dig through
several thousand emails to find the one you're responding to, but do I
want to do that? nope. so what's funny is you've essentially just
spammed several hundred qualified debian users who could have helped
with your problem, but instead are merely annoyed by your spam.

You have to realise that by posting to that gateway, you have to act
like you are on a mailing list, not a web forum. That means you have
to quote previous messages, put things in context etc. 

> I've tried all advices listed above and it aint help:(

we'd be happy to point out whether that advice applied to your
situation, but we don't have a clue what you're talking about.

> I wonder where else i can have a look for the answer...

heh.

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Re: same problem

2007-05-02 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:15:19PM +0200, cat Behemoth wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> funny but i am experiencing the same problem with my fujitsu-siemens pc. 

"same problem"  as what?

> I can only open few sites: www.google.com, www.ya.ru.  I've tried all
> advices listed above and it aint help:( I wonder where else i can have
> a look for the answer...

well - to find the answer, you need a question first...

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same problem

2007-05-02 Thread cat Behemoth


Hi guys,
funny but i am experiencing the same problem with my fujitsu-siemens pc. I can 
only open few sites: www.google.com, www.ya.ru.
I've tried all advices listed above and it aint help:(
I wonder where else i can have a look for the answer...


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Same problem after Sarge->Etch dist-upgrade

2007-04-11 Thread MikaelOgren


I get the same problem, font 'fxed' missing for both vncserver and vnc4server. 
Worked perfectly with Sarge. Have tried to fiddle with the font paths in 
/etc/vnc.conf but to no avail.


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Re: Bttv card and 2.6 kernel - same problem

2004-01-20 Thread Andrea Tasso
me too, I also experimented unsolved :-( problems with bttv, if anyone has solved, let 
us know, thanks

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RE: eth0 detected by kernel, ifconfig, ifup/ifdown can't configure it. lo (localhost) also has same problem.

2001-02-13 Thread Jimmy Richards



Hello 
there. There is a known problem with net-tools_1.58. You'll need to go get the 
net-tools_1.57 .deb and downgrade to it to try to fix your problem. And you 
may need to make sure that your /etc/hosts file is good too and not the one 
that 1.58 put in. Hope this helps, good luck.
 
 
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  -Original Message-From: Troy Telford 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:51 
  PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: eth0 detected 
  by kernel, ifconfig, ifup/ifdown can't configure it. lo (localhost) also has 
  same problem.
  I apologize if this is in HTML; Outlook express is all I have @ the 
  moment.
   
  I've been working on this for a few hours now... I need some help!  
  I can get neither eth0 nor my localhost (lo) interfaces to work!  They 
  were working fine earlier.I made a simple change to my filesystem - I 
  needed a bigger /var partition, and therefore made the proper preparations 
  (backups, etc), created the new partition, copied all data over, fixed the 
  fstab, etc.  But now my network card isn't configuring, and neither is 
  localhost.Specifically - during boot, I get the usual message about 
  the kernel detecting my RealTek 8029 card on IRQ 10, IO 0xb400, and that it 
  sets it to eth0.When /etc/init.d/networking runs to configure the card 
  (and lo), I get the following errors (paraphrased)SIOCFADDR:  bad 
  file descriptoreth0:  interface not found:  bad file 
  descriptor.lo:  interface not found:  bad file 
  descriptor.And, networking does not function.  I don't even have 
  Localhost!, so it can't be the network card itself.In fact - I have a 
  'zip rescue' disk that contains a default debian-base installation 
  (v.2.2).  It uses the exact same kernel file as my 'regular' boot - 
  kernel 2.4.1, located on my /boot partition.
  The zip rescue disk is able to boot and configure networking just fine, 
  everything works.The hard disk cannot.The only difference in 
  booting is that the 'zip_rescue' entry in LILO uses the zip disk as the root, 
  whereas the 'linux' entry uses my hard disk.  The kernel is not on either 
  partition.
   
  /proc information:
   
  When booting from hard disk:  /proc/interrupts does not list the 
  ethernet card, nor its IRQ.  /proc/ioports (i think) lists the ethernet 
  card on 0xb400.
   
  When booting from the zip disk, /proc/interrupts lists the ethernet card 
  correctly on IRQ 10.  /proc/ioports lists the card on 0xb400.  

   
  Realtek's diagnostics show the card as working properly, and it works in 
  Windows as well as on the zip rescue.
   
  So what is it that changed to make my networking stop working when 
  booting from the hard disk, while networking works fine when booted from the 
  zip?Any ideas?!?  I really don't want to have to 'nuke' it all 
  and re-install from scratch.  I don't have that kind of 
  time...Thanks,Troy


eth0 detected by kernel, ifconfig, ifup/ifdown can't configure it. lo (localhost) also has same problem.

2001-02-12 Thread Troy Telford



I apologize if this is in HTML; Outlook express is all I have @ the 
moment.
 
I've been working on this for a few hours now... I need some help!  I 
can get neither eth0 nor my localhost (lo) interfaces to work!  They were 
working fine earlier.I made a simple change to my filesystem - I needed 
a bigger /var partition, and therefore made the proper preparations (backups, 
etc), created the new partition, copied all data over, fixed the fstab, 
etc.  But now my network card isn't configuring, and neither is 
localhost.Specifically - during boot, I get the usual message about the 
kernel detecting my RealTek 8029 card on IRQ 10, IO 0xb400, and that it sets it 
to eth0.When /etc/init.d/networking runs to configure the card (and lo), 
I get the following errors (paraphrased)SIOCFADDR:  bad file 
descriptoreth0:  interface not found:  bad file 
descriptor.lo:  interface not found:  bad file 
descriptor.And, networking does not function.  I don't even have 
Localhost!, so it can't be the network card itself.In fact - I have a 
'zip rescue' disk that contains a default debian-base installation 
(v.2.2).  It uses the exact same kernel file as my 'regular' boot - kernel 
2.4.1, located on my /boot partition.
The zip rescue disk is able to boot and configure networking just fine, 
everything works.The hard disk cannot.The only difference in booting 
is that the 'zip_rescue' entry in LILO uses the zip disk as the root, whereas 
the 'linux' entry uses my hard disk.  The kernel is not on either 
partition.
 
/proc information:
 
When booting from hard disk:  /proc/interrupts does not list the 
ethernet card, nor its IRQ.  /proc/ioports (i think) lists the ethernet 
card on 0xb400.
 
When booting from the zip disk, /proc/interrupts lists the ethernet card 
correctly on IRQ 10.  /proc/ioports lists the card on 0xb400.  
 
Realtek's diagnostics show the card as working properly, and it works in 
Windows as well as on the zip rescue.
 
So what is it that changed to make my networking stop working when booting 
from the hard disk, while networking works fine when booted from the 
zip?Any ideas?!?  I really don't want to have to 'nuke' it all and 
re-install from scratch.  I don't have that kind of 
time...Thanks,Troy


I have the same problem: getting rid of old base

1997-07-10 Thread James D. Freels
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> - dselect reports the package base 1.1.0-13 as obsolete but will not
>   purge it (neither will dpkg --purge) because it is an essential
>   package.  It does not stop me from working but it would be cleaner
>   if i could remove it. Removing its entry from the status file would
>   it be safe ?

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>Laurent.

base-files replaced base, but we cannot get rid of the old base.

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