Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Brad Alexander]

Yeah, the problem with that is that some package maintainer for some
package that I do use, down the line, may get the bright idea to make pulse
a dependency.

I also wonder if a newer build of Debian may work out the issues with
pulse. This particular box hasn't been rebuilt in about 5 years...I plan to
rebuild it in the next month or two because I want to upgrade from i386 to
amd64...


On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Ingo Kasten  wrote:

> Am 19.11.2011 21:40, schrieb Brad Alexander:
>
>  Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
>> keep it from getting reinstalled?
>>
>>
> First, let me repeat (with other words): it is a dirty way. But I guess,
> if you do not install gnome-core again, you won't get pulseaudio as well.
> On the other hand, this issue (feature?) is well-known, you'll find some
> suggestions to disable pulseaudio from getting loaded (please google
> "pulseaudio, autospawn") but I felt like this being too uncomfortable for
> me.
>
>
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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Ingo Kasten]

Am 19.11.2011 21:40, schrieb Brad Alexander:

Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
keep it from getting reinstalled?



First, let me repeat (with other words): it is a dirty way. But I guess, 
if you do not install gnome-core again, you won't get pulseaudio as well.
On the other hand, this issue (feature?) is well-known, you'll find some 
suggestions to disable pulseaudio from getting loaded (please google 
"pulseaudio, autospawn") but I felt like this being too uncomfortable 
for me.


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Graham]

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:32:48 -0500
Brad Alexander  wrote:

> Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
> keep it from getting reinstalled?

Firstly, let me say that I've not got pulseaudio installed, so forgive
me if there's a better way. If there's no sensible way to disable
pulseaudio, you could create a dummy package using equivs, which you
install in place of pulseaudio to satisfy dependencies, and would then
stop the real pusleaudio getting pulled in. man equivs-control and man
equivs-build for instructions. Also there's this blog that deals with
the issue:
http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2005/09/creating-dummy-debian-package-for.html


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Brad Alexander]

Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to keep
it from getting reinstalled?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Ingo Kasten  wrote:

>
>  What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.
>>
>
> That's what I did, too. Removing pulseaudio instantly brings back the
> sound :-)
> Unfortunately pulseaudio is a dependency of gnome(3)-core , which is, as
> far as I understand, just for keeping gnome consistant.
> I removed it, too. So I'll have to keep an eye on gnome for myself...
> (In fact I'm using KDE)
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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Ingo Kasten]

What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.


That's what I did, too. Removing pulseaudio instantly brings back the 
sound :-)
Unfortunately pulseaudio is a dependency of gnome(3)-core , which is, as 
far as I understand, just for keeping gnome consistant.

I removed it, too. So I'll have to keep an eye on gnome for myself...
(In fact I'm using KDE)

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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

[Rares Aioanei]

On 11/19/2011 06:21 PM, Brad Alexander wrote:

Hi,

I'm posting this because I don't know where to begin looking. I have 
done a few searches, and it seems to be alles in ordnung, but things 
still aren't working.


To explain, I have a SBLive emu10k1 card in my sid workstation. All 
was fine until a few weeks ago:


05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 
(rev 07)


The drivers are installed and loaded:

snd_emu10k1_synth  13016  0
snd_emux_synth 29075  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_emu10k1   132168  5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_ac97_codec106837  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm68104  4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 13043  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem   12704  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep  13186  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_rawmidi23297  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer  22581  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 13137  5 
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd52823  19 
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

emu10k1_gp 12494  0
gameport   13649  2 emu10k1_gp

...however, alsamixer shows the card and chip being PulseAudio for 
playback, and KDE shows the output as "dummy" and nothing in the 
capture device. There seems to be a disconnect between pulse and alsa, 
and it only cropped up a couple of weeks ago.


How do I get pulseaudio talking to the SBLive and get sound back to my 
workstation?


Thanks,
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What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.


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My sound blaster live disappeared

[Brad Alexander]

Hi,

I'm posting this because I don't know where to begin looking. I have done a
few searches, and it seems to be alles in ordnung, but things still aren't
working.

To explain, I have a SBLive emu10k1 card in my sid workstation. All was
fine until a few weeks ago:

05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)

The drivers are installed and loaded:

snd_emu10k1_synth  13016  0
snd_emux_synth 29075  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_emu10k1   132168  5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_ac97_codec106837  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm68104  4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 13043  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem   12704  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep  13186  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_rawmidi23297  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer  22581  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 13137  5
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd52823  19
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
emu10k1_gp 12494  0
gameport   13649  2 emu10k1_gp

...however, alsamixer shows the card and chip being PulseAudio for
playback, and KDE shows the output as "dummy" and nothing in the capture
device. There seems to be a disconnect between pulse and alsa, and it only
cropped up a couple of weeks ago.

How do I get pulseaudio talking to the SBLive and get sound back to my
workstation?

Thanks,
--b

Sound Blaster Live 24bit Model: SB0410 Chip CA0106

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi Debian:

Funny story here. I bought this card because I thought the onboard audio 
of my new mobo (EPOX EP-8VTAI) would be hard to configure.


It's the other way around: the onboard is a dream, the card is junk.

You have to get the latest Alsa (2.4.x) or 2.6.11 to get the CA0106 driver.

Then your run alsaconf and he finds it.

But then...

Only one of the volume controls works and the sound is terrible: it has 
jumps in it. You have to hear it to believe it.


Note this is the model SB0410 (is on the back) the large chip has CA0106 
imprinted on it. Do not get this!


Hugo


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sound blaster live! - 5.1 sound (setup) problem

[jano kupec]

Hi all,

I can't get proper sound out of my SB Live! card. I do have a good sound
in subwoofer, center, and seemingly in rear left speaker, but no sound
in both front speakers and low volume sound in rear right one.

I've studied the alsamixer, hoping its setting is the only problem, but
the result was as described above. I'm pretty sure about all mixer
setting, except the EMU10K1 PCM, EMU10K1 PCM send, and EMU10K1 PCM send
routing - i've no idea how to set these, and whether they will have any
effect.

Moreover, i don't have any sound in headphones. Is there a way to switch
the output between headphones and 5.1 sound, such as it is possible with
Window$ driver and utils?

I've read many questions and answers regarding SB Live! problems, but
none was like this. The only thing i've found is that the card SHOULD
work just fine :O) On Window$ it works perfectly, so i think there is no
HW problem...

Any hints about how to solve this?

I'm running the 2.6.5 kernel and have compiled the alsa sb live! as a
module.

jano


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Re: sound blaster live support

[Ryan Mackay]

Sometime near Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 11:02:51PM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 11:16:12PM -0500, walt wrote:
> > Any easy way to get a sound blaster live working in debian testing? I
> > am googling right now but would really appreciate any hints.

I personally just use the emu10k1 module, it sounds good, and works fine

$ modprobe emu10k1

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Re: sound blaster live support

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On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 11:16:12PM -0500, walt wrote:
> Any easy way to get a sound blaster live working in debian testing? I
> am googling right now but would really appreciate any hints.

If you are using a 2.4.x Debian kernel image:

apt-get install alsa-modules-`uname -r` alsa-base alsa-utils

That should install the modules to match your running kernel and the
necessary utilities.  For configuration information you may want to read
the following web site (long link):

   
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Soundblaster+Live&chip=EMU10K1&module=emu10k1#modp

If you're not using a 2.4.x kernel I would highly recommend upgrading to
one before trying to get the SB Live working.

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sound blaster live support

[walt]

Any easy way to get a sound blaster live working in debian testing? I am 
googling right now but would really appreciate any hints.

Walt

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Re: FW: Sound Blaster Live Support

[Haim Ashkenazi]

On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 01:47, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 04:35:34PM -0500, Bob Paige wrote:
> > Fortunately, when I upgraded from kernel 2.2.x to 2.4.20 (that is from 
> > 'testing'; I think 2.4.19 is in 'stable') it included the emu10K driver 
> > as a module, so it just worked.
> 
> It's also in the 2.4.18 (IIRC) kernel from woody, just not in the boot
> floppies ones.  This is documented in the install guide, but nearly
> everyone seems to miss it :)
If you don't need the midi support, emu10k1 (afaik comes in most of the
2.4.x kernels) works just fine. if you want midi support (that is
hardware midi, you can always play midi emulation with timidity) you'll
have to use the alsa driver. there is a nice article about alsa in
debian:
http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=541

As for SBLive specific alsa options you can find them in the
alsa-project webpage (there is a link to that in the article).

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Re: FW: Sound Blaster Live Support

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On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 04:35:34PM -0500, Bob Paige wrote:
> Fortunately, when I upgraded from kernel 2.2.x to 2.4.20 (that is from 
> 'testing'; I think 2.4.19 is in 'stable') it included the emu10K driver 
> as a module, so it just worked.

It's also in the 2.4.18 (IIRC) kernel from woody, just not in the boot
floppies ones.  This is documented in the install guide, but nearly
everyone seems to miss it :)

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Re: FW: Sound Blaster Live Support

[Bob Paige]

Administrator wrote:

Sound support seems to be one of the less well documented areas for
Linux in general and Debian in particular (go ahead, flame away and
point me to the how-to's I missed!).
I know I SHOULD be able to get a happy configuration with my Sound
Blaster Live - but I'm not getting very far.  The frustrating part is
the lack of consistency - sometimes I can get things to work, and
sometimes not.
I'm trying to get comfortable with Debian - to actually get a feel for
how it works (without messing with code or re-compiling the kernel!) and
how to support it.  So I just keep re-installing to see which steps mess
me up less than others.
Can someone point me to a resource to understand the sound support
available in Debian?  Stuff that will explain to me the differences
between OSS, ESD, ALSA, etc.?  And then of course adding a desktop
environment like KDE or GNOME adds another layer.
BTW, I'm using Woody - I think.  I started messing with my sources.list,
just for fun, and I may have partially upgraded to Sarge or Sid.
 

I had the same problem. What you need is the driver for your sound card. 
For the SoundBlaster Live card, it is emu10K.

Unfortunately, I had all kinds of trouble getting this driver to compile 
and load. I could only find it as source, not a .deb file.

Fortunately, when I upgraded from kernel 2.2.x to 2.4.20 (that is from 
'testing'; I think 2.4.19 is in 'stable') it included the emu10K driver 
as a module, so it just worked.

To change kernels, run dselect (or your favorite apt frontend) and pick 
a newer kernel. It will update your lilo configuration. Reboot, and it 
should 'just work'.

- Bobman



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FW: Sound Blaster Live Support

[Administrator]

Sound support seems to be one of the less well documented areas for
Linux in general and Debian in particular (go ahead, flame away and
point me to the how-to's I missed!).

I know I SHOULD be able to get a happy configuration with my Sound
Blaster Live - but I'm not getting very far.  The frustrating part is
the lack of consistency - sometimes I can get things to work, and
sometimes not.

I'm trying to get comfortable with Debian - to actually get a feel for
how it works (without messing with code or re-compiling the kernel!) and
how to support it.  So I just keep re-installing to see which steps mess
me up less than others.

Can someone point me to a resource to understand the sound support
available in Debian?  Stuff that will explain to me the differences
between OSS, ESD, ALSA, etc.?  And then of course adding a desktop
environment like KDE or GNOME adds another layer.

BTW, I'm using Woody - I think.  I started messing with my sources.list,
just for fun, and I may have partially upgraded to Sarge or Sid.

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sound blaster live 5.1 does not work with gaim

[Petr Vanek]

hi all,
has enyone expirienced that sb5.1 does not play any sounds from gaim
messanger? i installed sb5.1 recently, i am using testing:

Linux oentar 2.4.19-386 #1 Mon Nov 18 21:50:03 EST 2002 i586 Pentium MMX
GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

modul emu10k1 from packaged kernel

mp3 (ogg) play alright, i do not use any sound server, if i add my own
sound file into conf of gaim, it's alright, but builtin sounds do not
play on this card...

any idea?


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Re: Sound Blaster Live Problems

[Faheem Mitha]

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Reid Gilman wrote:

> I tried that but it still gives me the same error (init_module: no such
> device).

Try compiling the soundcore support into the kernel, and the emu10k1 as a
module. This is how I have it and it works, with 2.4.17. I agree it should
not be necessary to do this, though

Then, check if /etc/modules has a line for emu10k1. This was done
automatically for me, along with other modules. In that case it will be
loaded automatically at boot time.

Does the sound card show up if you do lspci? If so, what does it say?
You'll need package pciutils for this command.

Does your sound card work ok under another os, to eliminate the
possibility of a hardware problem?

  Faheem.


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Re: Sound Blaster Live Problems

[Reid Gilman]

I tried that but it still gives me the same error (init_module: no such device).



On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 11:53, Sebastiaan wrote:

High,

On 23 Jun 2002, Reid Gilman wrote:

> I'm having trouble setting up my Sound Blaster Live card.  I have kernel
> 2.4.18 and it is compiled with sound as a module.  I load the soundcore
> module and then when I try to load the emu10k1 module it says
> "init_module: no such device."  I'm not sure why this happens.  Any
> advice?
>
have you also loaded the sound.o and ac97_codec.o too? Everything should
go automatically with 'modprobe emu10k1' in stead of insmodding every
module induvidially.

emu10k152416   1
ac97_codec  9344   0 [emu10k1]
sound  52716   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3556   7 [emu10k1 sound]

Greetz,
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Re: Sound Blaster Live Problems

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High,

On 23 Jun 2002, Reid Gilman wrote:

> I'm having trouble setting up my Sound Blaster Live card.  I have kernel
> 2.4.18 and it is compiled with sound as a module.  I load the soundcore
> module and then when I try to load the emu10k1 module it says
> "init_module: no such device."  I'm not sure why this happens.  Any
> advice?
>
have you also loaded the sound.o and ac97_codec.o too? Everything should
go automatically with 'modprobe emu10k1' in stead of insmodding every
module induvidially.

emu10k152416   1
ac97_codec  9344   0 [emu10k1]
sound  52716   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3556   7 [emu10k1 sound]

Greetz,
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Sound Blaster Live Problems

[Reid Gilman]

I'm having trouble setting up my Sound Blaster Live card.  I have kernel 2.4.18 and it is compiled with sound as a module.  I load the soundcore module and then when I try to load the emu10k1 module it says "init_module: no such device."  I'm not sure why this happens.  Any advice? 

Re: Sound Blaster Live config?

[Terry Warner]

Have you tried using Creatives Emu drivers?

You need to download them through cvs. If you haven't tried them .. mail me .. 
I can give you more info :)

Terry

On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 05:03:00PM -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx babbled:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get a Sound Blaster Live card setup on a 2.2r2 box, I
> grabbed sndconfig from my unstable machine and it kind of worked...
> 
> the sound is getting to the right place but in a very garbled state.
> 
> Any sage advice?
> 
> -Jon
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Sound Blaster Live config?

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

Hi,

I'm trying to get a Sound Blaster Live card setup on a 2.2r2 box, I
grabbed sndconfig from my unstable machine and it kind of worked...

the sound is getting to the right place but in a very garbled state.

Any sage advice?

-Jon

Re: Sound Blaster Live

[Shawn D'Alimonte]

On January 14, 2001 11:44 pm, Tim 'trout' Apple wrote:
> Hello, I'm new to the list and debian. I have a sound blaster live
> sound card and was wondering if someone could direct me to a site or
> give me dir's on what to do to get it functioning. Thanks

Use the emu10k1 module.  No parameters should be needed.  

Newer versions of the driver are available from opensource.creative.com 
but you will have to compile them yourself.  

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Re: Sound Blaster Live

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:44:26PM -0600, Tim 'trout' Apple wrote:
> Hello, I'm new to the list and debian. I have a sound blaster live sound
> card and was wondering if someone could direct me to a site or give me dir's
> on what to do to get it functioning. Thanks

Welcome.

http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/soundcards/sblive.html

Mike

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Sound Blaster Live

[Tim 'trout' Apple]

Hello, I'm new to the list and debian. I have a sound blaster live sound
card and was wondering if someone could direct me to a site or give me dir's
on what to do to get it functioning. Thanks

trout

PS I have a few other Q's to but i'll fix one thing at a time .

Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Jerrud]

Hmmm I changed the permissions with the setting you specified, and 
added my user to those permissions, but I still get the same error. I`m 
wondering if i should boot to my old kernel if i want sound, and if i 
want to use my cd writer, to boot to my new kernel. that would be such a 

pain though

Do you think having support for my card compiled right into the kernel 
is what is making things go wrong? should i compile it as a module?

Jerrud

[jerlin@surfcity.com: Re: sound blaster live! 512]

[Jerrud]

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Nope, all that is in my /var/log/syslog file are 3 entries

Jan  4 02:11:13 localhost syslogd 1.3-3#33.1: restart.
Jan  4 02:11:14 localhost anacron[173]: Job `cron.daily' terminated
Jan  4 02:11:14 localhost anacron[173]: Normal exit (1 jobs run)


thats it. nothing about sound. i wonder if thats good or bad ;-)

Jerrud 


On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:51:03 Andrea Vettorello wrote:
> romain lerallut wrote:
> 
> > have you tried the ESD output plugin instead of the OSS one ?
> >
> > [...]
> > such device
> >
> > Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...
> >
> > Have any ideas?
> >
> 
> Could you look in your "/var/log/syslog" for any messages like "modprobe: 
Can't
> locate module sound-slot-0"?
> 
> 
> Andrea
> 
> P.S. I suggested to a  friend of mine to compile the driver as a module 
after
> finding the messages "modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0" in
> "/var/log/syslog". This happened after he upgraded to 2.2.18. Sounds 
strange,
> but who knows, give a try...
> 
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Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Andrea Vettorello]

romain lerallut wrote:

> have you tried the ESD output plugin instead of the OSS one ?
>
> [...]
> such device
>
> Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...
>
> Have any ideas?
>

Could you look in your "/var/log/syslog" for any messages like "modprobe: Can't
locate module sound-slot-0"?


Andrea

P.S. I suggested to a  friend of mine to compile the driver as a module after
finding the messages "modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0" in
"/var/log/syslog". This happened after he upgraded to 2.2.18. Sounds strange,
but who knows, give a try...

Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 08:46:03PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:55:06AM -0800, Jerrud wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I followed your instructions and did this:
> > 
> > alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/dsp
> > alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/mixer

no no, 

chmod 660 /dev/dsp
chmod 660 /dev/mixer
adduser yourusername audio

> > This is what I got when I ran XMMS:
> > 
> > ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No 
> > such device
^^^

> If your devices are mucked up, try (cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV audio).

look closer the message is No such device, NOT No such file or
directory.  he has the device nodes, but the kernel does not believe
there is any hardware associated with them.  

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Re: Re: sound blaster live! 512

[romain lerallut]

have you tried the ESD output plugin instead of the OSS one ?


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I followed your instructions and did this:

alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/dsp
alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/mixer

This is what I got when I ran XMMS:

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No 
such device


Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...

Have any ideas?

Jerrud








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Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Forrest English]

thats about where my knowledge ends.  sorry  i'm sure someone here knows
though...

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:55:06 -0800, Jerrud said:

> 
>  
>  I followed your instructions and did this:
>  
>  alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/dsp
>  alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/mixer
>  
>  This is what I got when I ran XMMS:
>  
>  ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No 
>  such device
>  
>  
>  Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...
>  
>  Have any ideas?
>  
>  Jerrud
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Eric G . Miller]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:55:06AM -0800, Jerrud wrote:
> 
> 
> I followed your instructions and did this:
> 
> alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/dsp
> alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/mixer
> 
> This is what I got when I ran XMMS:
> 
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No 
> such device
> 
> 
> Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...
> 
> Have any ideas?

If your devices are mucked up, try (cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV audio).

If that doesn't work, maybe you have the incorrect sound modules? or
maybe you need some aliases/options in /etc/modutils/aliases?

I don't know that device though...

-- 
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Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Jerrud]

I followed your instructions and did this:

alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/dsp
alpha:/home/mechanical# chmod 777 /dev/mixer

This is what I got when I ran XMMS:

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No 
such device


Looks like I might have deeper problems than permissions...

Have any ideas?

Jerrud

Re: sound blaster live! 512

[Forrest English]

have you set the permissions on /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer?

thats all i had to do after i compiled my sblive drivers into my 2.4 kernel.

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 03:25:37 -0800, Jerrud said:

> Well I got my kernel to compile and my cd burner now works (awesome) but 
>  now my sound blaster live (10kemu1 chipset or something like that) is 
>  now not working. I compiled support for it right into the kernel, and 
>  during boot it (the card) gets assigned perfectly but when i try to 
>  play music using XMMS, it tells me my sound card is not configured 
>  properly. 
>  
>  Can anyone help?
>  
>  thanks 
>  
>  Jerrud 
>  
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sound blaster live! 512

[Jerrud]

Well I got my kernel to compile and my cd burner now works (awesome) but 
now my sound blaster live (10kemu1 chipset or something like that) is 
now not working. I compiled support for it right into the kernel, and 
during boot it (the card) gets assigned perfectly but when i try to 
play music using XMMS, it tells me my sound card is not configured 
properly. 

Can anyone help?

thanks 

Jerrud 

Re: sound blaster live

[Wilson Fung]

No, sblive uses the emu10k1 chip set which for the longest time was not 
supported.  But thanks to David Bellows's suggestion, I finally got it 
working by downloading the unstable release of the alsa debian packages.





I'm not sure about SB Live, but shouldn't it also work as es1371 just like
SB128? or does it have a different chipset?

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Re: sound blaster live

[Danny Pansters]

I'm not sure about SB Live, but shouldn't it also work as es1371 just like 
SB128? or does it have a different chipset?

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Re: sound blaster live

[Wilson Fung]

I thought that was the case, (not knowing how to recompile the kernel yet) 
and I just installed the base, I just went and reinstalled the base with 
those support, so I believe they're compiled in the kernel now, but I still 
get the same messages.




Le 2000-09-01 00:15:33 +, Wilson Fung écrivait :
> I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to 
linux.  I
> downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it 
says

> unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
>
> Wil

I guess that either for the Alsa driver or the standalone creative
driver, you need a kernel compiled with "Sound card support" enabled
or compiled as a module (soundcore.o).

If it is not the case, that might be the explanation of the errors
you get.

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Re: sound blaster live

[Jean-Philippe Guerard]

Le 2000-09-01 00:15:33 +, Wilson Fung écrivait :
> I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux.  I 
> downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says 
> unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
> 
> Wil

I guess that either for the Alsa driver or the standalone creative
driver, you need a kernel compiled with "Sound card support" enabled
or compiled as a module (soundcore.o).

If it is not the case, that might be the explanation of the errors
you get.

Hope it helps.
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Re: sound blaster live

[David Bellows]

Wilson Fung wrote:
> 
> That I haven't tried, I guess I will.  Thanx for the suggestion, but which
> debs am I actually looking for.
> 
As I mentioned you'll find these in the unstable branch:
alsa-base_0.5.9b-1.deb 
alsa-headers_0.5.9b-1.deb 
alsa-modules-2.2.17_0.5.9b-1+2.2.17pre6-1.deb  
alsa-utils_0.5.9-1.deb 
alsaconf_0.4.3b-2.deb  
alsalib0.3.0_0.4.1e-5.deb  
asmixer_0.5-6.deb 
libasound1-dev_0.5.9-1.deb
libasound1_0.5.9-1.deb
 
I don't remember which order you'll need to install these in or if you
even need all of them.  But if you start with one of them and try to
install it (i.e. dpkg -i alsa-utils_0.5.9-1.deb), it'll either install
or tell you which package you need to install first -- so you install
that one first! It takes a little patience, but will hopefully work.

You might also try pointing dselect to the unstable branch and going
that route so it'll take care of the dependencies for you, but this
might cause dselect to try to install a whole bunch of other files -- I
don't remember if I ever tried this, but this theoretically is the
easiest approach.

Good luck,
David Bellows

Re: sound blaster live

[Wilson Fung]

That I haven't tried, I guess I will.  Thanx for the suggestion, but which 
debs am I actually looking for.




Wilson Fung wrote:
>
> I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to 
linux.  I
> downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it 
says

> unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
>
You might also try downloading the latest .debs from the unstable branch
and installing these, then run alsaconf.  This worked fine for me.  It
did take a little patience to get the correct packages installed in the
correct order, but Debian always tells you what package it needs first.

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Re: sound blaster live

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Wilson Fung wrote:
> 
> I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux.  I
> downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says
> unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
> 
You might also try downloading the latest .debs from the unstable branch
and installing these, then run alsaconf.  This worked fine for me.  It
did take a little patience to get the correct packages installed in the
correct order, but Debian always tells you what package it needs first.

David Bellows

Re: sound blaster live

[Wilson Fung]

tried it, same messagesT_T


Go to opensource.creative.com click on the link at the bottom for latest 
source snapshots download the newest tarbal and read the readme. This is 
far and away the best way to make a sblive work.


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 I
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>
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[William Jensen]

If he's on kernel 2.4.x it's directly supported.

That's how I did my SB Live.  Though he did say he was pretty new so maybe a
new kernel compile isn't something he wants to jump into.

Bill

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snapshots download the newest tarbal and read the readme. This is far and away 
the best way to make a sblive work.

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>I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux.  I 
>downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says 
>unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
>
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snapshots download the newest tarbal and read the readme. This is far and away 
the best way to make a sblive work.

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>I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux.  I 
>downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says 
>unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?
>
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I have a sound blaster live value card, and guess what, I'm new to linux.  I 
downloaded the ALSA 0.59 driver, compiled it and when I modprobe it, it says 
unresolved symbols in snd.o and emu10k1.o.  Am I missing something?


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Re: Sound Blaster Live

[Rev GRC Sperry]

I did this just last night on my smp machine and with little effort and
running "make INCLUDE=/usr/include" and the normal instructions I have
sound. I suck at configuring sound under Linux so if I can do most anyone
can now for the sblive. I encourage people to give it a go even if they've
failed before.

* James Sasitorn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000224 20:35] penned:
> Actually the latest snap-shots from creative do. I installed the live smp
> drivers probably a good 2 months ago.. I guess I probably should get a more
> recent version.
> 
> james
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Svante Signell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 4:58 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live
> 
> 
> Does any of the Live driver versions support SMP? Haven't
> installed mine yet due to this.
> 
> Colin Marquardt writes:
>  > * Mars Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  >
>  > > So is a Sound Blaser Live driver available to the Linux users??
>  >
>  > One option is a current ALSA: http://www.alsa-project.org
>  >
>  > Or OSS: go to http://opensource.creative.com, grab a snapshot there
>  > and follow the instructions in the docs/README* file. The only thing
>  > to do different is the `make' part: use
>  >
>  >make INCLUDE=/usr/include/
>  >
>  > so that it can find your kernel headers (you will need to have that
>  > package installed).
>  >
>  > HTH,
>  >   Colin
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RE: Sound Blaster Live

[James Sasitorn]

Actually the latest snap-shots from creative do. I installed the live smp
drivers probably a good 2 months ago.. I guess I probably should get a more
recent version.

james

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Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live


Does any of the Live driver versions support SMP? Haven't
installed mine yet due to this.

Colin Marquardt writes:
 > * Mars Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 >
 > > So is a Sound Blaser Live driver available to the Linux users??
 >
 > One option is a current ALSA: http://www.alsa-project.org
 >
 > Or OSS: go to http://opensource.creative.com, grab a snapshot there
 > and follow the instructions in the docs/README* file. The only thing
 > to do different is the `make' part: use
 >
 >make INCLUDE=/usr/include/
 >
 > so that it can find your kernel headers (you will need to have that
 > package installed).
 >
 > HTH,
 >   Colin


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Re: Sound Blaster Live

[Svante Signell]

Does any of the Live driver versions support SMP? Haven't
installed mine yet due to this.

Colin Marquardt writes:
 > * Mars Moon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > 
 > > So is a Sound Blaser Live driver available to the Linux users??
 > 
 > One option is a current ALSA: http://www.alsa-project.org
 > 
 > Or OSS: go to http://opensource.creative.com, grab a snapshot there
 > and follow the instructions in the docs/README* file. The only thing
 > to do different is the `make' part: use
 > 
 >make INCLUDE=/usr/include/
 > 
 > so that it can find your kernel headers (you will need to have that
 > package installed).
 > 
 > HTH,
 >   Colin

Re: sound blaster live

[Ralf Sinoradzki]

Hi !

You might compile the emu10k1 drivers with newer kernels
than 2.2.13, but you have to replace some includes in
/usr/include/linux with the header files in ./include/linux
of your kernel-source-package. (I don'T know, if the debian
kernel tools do this automatically, because I've not used
kpkg. I will try this the next time ...)
After doing this, just follow the instructions of the emu10k1
driver.
I'm using the soundblaster live with kernel 2.3.28 and debian
potato without problems.
But make a backup of /usr/linux/include !

ciao
 Ralf

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Re: sound blaster live

[Aaron Solochek]

If you are talking about emu10k1, which I assume you are, yes I have.
key things to do.  1) make sure your kernel is configured with sound
support as a module, and no other sound options are selected.  Compile
the kerel when you get out.  "make dep; make clean; make bzlilo; make
modules; make modules_install" usually works for me.  That will toss
soundcore.o in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/misc.
Then you want to download the source for the emu10k1, unless you happen
to be running a kernel there are binaries for (you shouldn't be running
any 2.2.x other than 2.2.13 I've been told, btw).  So you get that,
untar it, "make" it and then "make install" it.  That installs the
modules.  If you get that far, write back for info on running the
modules.

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Jason Winters wrote:

> has anyone successfully installed the Bata drivers for the sound
> blaster live sound card.  If so how?  I tried and I could not get it
> to work.

sound blaster live

[Jason Winters]

has anyone successfully installed the Bata drivers for the 
sound blaster live sound card.  If so how?  I tried and I could not 
get it to work.

Re: Sound Blaster Live Value...

[Colin Marquardt]

* Erich Newell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there any news yet of support for the Sound Blaster live under Linux?
 
http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/

> ( I actually have a "value" but I'm certain the chipset is the same )

Yup. 

> P.S. Can someone point me to a complete hardware compatability list? Does
> one exist?

There is one (well, who can say any list is complete?) at
http://www.suse.de (you can switch to English somewhere, and you´ll
have to do some browsing there).

> Doing:Community Applications   edge, you're taking up too
> For: City of Mesa   much space"

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Re: Sound Blaster Live Value...

[Liacopoulos]

Here's the list:

http://www.linux-howto.com/LDP/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1

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> ( I actually have a "value" but I'm certain the chipset is the same )
> 
> Thanks,
>  Erich
> 
> P.S. Can someone point me to a complete hardware compatability list? Does
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Sound Blaster Live Value...

[Erich_Newell]

Is there any news yet of support for the Sound Blaster live under Linux?
( I actually have a "value" but I'm certain the chipset is the same )


Thanks,
 Erich

P.S. Can someone point me to a complete hardware compatability list? Does
one exist?


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Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[Brad]

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On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> On 06-Oct-99 Brad wrote:
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> > If you want, i can post a rough outline of what i did, and the relavent
> > config files.
> 
> Thanks, but I read the HOWTO for Alsa, installed the driver, libs, and
> utilities, only to find I don't know how to load the modules; I thought it
> would be a simple 'insmod  but it seems more complicated than
> that.  I will stick with my half-duplex driver.

It is more complicated to do by hand. But, if you use kmod it's really not
all that difficult.

alsaconfig (from the alsa-base package) will ask you for the necessary
info, and add the proper information to /etc/conf.modules. For Debian,
you'll need to grab that section (it's clearly marked) and put it in
/etc/modutils/.

If you really want to do it by hand, it looks like you need to insert the
modules in something like this order. The banged ones take options.

  soundcore

  snd (!)

  snd-mixer-oss, snd-seq-device, snd-midi, snd-pcm, snd-timer, snd-mixer
  snd-hwdep

  snd-pcm1

  snd-pcm1-oss, snd-mpu401-uart

  card-specific modules, in order (e.g. snd-sb16-dsp before snd-sb16-csp
  before snd-card-sb16 (!))

You could probably skip the oss ones if you don't want support for
OSS-style sound interfaces. You probably want this though. You might be
able to skip the snd-midi and snd-mpu401-uart if you don't want midi
support. And the above list may easily have errors.


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Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[Pollywog]

On 06-Oct-99 Brad wrote:
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> If you want, i can post a rough outline of what i did, and the relavent
> config files.

Thanks, but I read the HOWTO for Alsa, installed the driver, libs, and
utilities, only to find I don't know how to load the modules; I thought it
would be a simple 'insmod  but it seems more complicated than
that.  I will stick with my half-duplex driver.

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Andrew

Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[Brad]

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On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> I am using SB 16 (Vibra I believe it is called) and I use the OSS-Linux
> drivers, which cost me $20.  They only allow half-duplex.  Are there other
> drivers that allow this card to be used in full-duplex mode?

There seems to be quite a few versions of SB 16 out there, so it can get a
little confusing talking about them.

I have a SoundBlaster ViBRA16C PnP model CT4180 soundcard (as opposed to
the ViBRA16x (not sure if 'x' there is a metacharacter or not) discussed
in the kernel docs and such, mine supports an 8-bit and a 16-bit DMA
AFAICT (at least, the kernel doesn't complain, and the snd_dma16 option is
set to 5). The latest ALSA (0.4.1b) works wonderfully for me (potato,
self-compiled 2.2.12 kernel) in full-duplex mode.

If you want, i can post a rough outline of what i did, and the relavent
config files.

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Jeff Noxon wrote:

> I believe those cards only allow pseudo-full-duplex operation (ie
> there is some kind of catch to it).

I've never encountered a catch. The manual states that you can only have
one session of simultaneous playback/recording at a time, playback and
recording must use the same [hardware] sample rate, and "you cannot add
reverberation when you play back Wave files", whatever that means.

Speaking of manuals, why does it claim the audio card _requires_ a VGA or
SVGA card?


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Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[Jeff Noxon]

On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 07:57:16PM -, Pollywog wrote:
> I am using SB 16 (Vibra I believe it is called) and I use the OSS-Linux
> drivers, which cost me $20.  They only allow half-duplex.  Are there other
> drivers that allow this card to be used in full-duplex mode?

I believe those cards only allow pseudo-full-duplex operation (ie there is
some kind of catch to it).

The ALSA drivers probably do what you want:

http://www.alsa-project.org/

ALSA is still in development, so it changes often, but it works very well.

Regards

Jeff

Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[Pollywog]

I am using SB 16 (Vibra I believe it is called) and I use the OSS-Linux
drivers, which cost me $20.  They only allow half-duplex.  Are there other
drivers that allow this card to be used in full-duplex mode?

thanks

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Andrew

Re: Sound Blaster Live!

[longship]

Andrea,

Please don't waste your money on the SB Live.  This card is
on the list of cards without open source support because
Creative refuses to release the information necessary to
construct a driver.  Buying this card doesn't help our
case to get Creative to release the programming specs.

There are many, many other sound cards which will work
for you and will offer direct kernel or open source
module support.

Please go to these two sites for details:

Linux Midi + Sound Page
   http://www.xdt.com/ar/linux-snd/

ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
   http://www.alsa-project.org/

If you have already purchased this card, there is only
the Creative binary driver.  I have no idea whether it
works with Debian.  Maybe you can get your money back
if it doesn't.

Good luck.

Arne

> Hello World!
> Does Sound Blaster Live! works on Debian 2.0 ??
> 
> Please help me!
> 
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Sound Blaster Live!

[Andrea Merello]

Hello World!
Does Sound Blaster Live! works on Debian 2.0 ??

Please help me!

Re: Sound Blaster Live

[Craig Hancock]

You got the sblive drivers to work


Chris Carlson wrote:

> I am pretty happy with the new kernel modules for the live, however I am
> still having problems running RealPlayer G2 and Civ III CTP.  Anyone here
> having any luck with these?
>
> Thanks
> -Chris
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Sound Blaster Live

[Chris Carlson]

I am pretty happy with the new kernel modules for the live, however I am
still having problems running RealPlayer G2 and Civ III CTP.  Anyone here
having any luck with these?

Thanks
-Chris

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