Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-30 Thread Pavel Epifanov
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Brian J. Stults wrote:

=I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
=so it can act as an ftp server. 
[..]
=The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO

I am using computers like or less than 486 + RAM 16 MB for the gateways.
If you recompile kernel (mine is about 450kb) to keep only neccessary 
things your hardware will run just fine. Thanks to Debian.

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Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-28 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
 so it can act as an ftp server.  My understanding is that a slower
 computer can act as a decent server if you use SCSI since it doesn't
 require much from the processor.  Is that right?  Also, are there any
 minimum requirements?  The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO
 ram.

First thing to do is as more RAM.  Even a SCSI disk can go slow if there's
a lot of programs trying to read off it.  That way quite a few files can
be stored in the file system cache and won't have to be read off the disk.

I would also recommend that you look into the 2.3 kernel series - it's
less stable than 2.2 so it may not work for you, but the multithreading in
the file system layer has led to visible improvements in performance when
reading data off disks.

 It will boot from an IDE drive, but the files that will be available
 from the server will all be on the SCSI drive.

That's fine.

 Sorry this isn't entirely Debian-related, but I use Debian and I want
 to install Debian on this computer, too.  I'm thinking of buying a
 9.1GB IBM Ultrastar 18ES and an Adaptec 2940U2W U2W/S host adapter.

I would look into other brands of U2W SCSI adapters, like ones that use
the Symbios logic chips - they tend to be quite a bit cheaper (up 40%
cheaper last I checked) and work every bit as well.  Stick with the IBM
disk - you can't go wrong there.

 Thanks in advance for any input.

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system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-27 Thread Brian J. Stults
I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
so it can act as an ftp server.  My understanding is that a slower
computer can act as a decent server if you use SCSI since it doesn't
require much from the processor.  Is that right?  Also, are there any
minimum requirements?  The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO
ram.  It will boot from an IDE drive, but the files that will be
available from the server will all be on the SCSI drive.  Sorry this
isn't entirely Debian-related, but I use Debian and I want to install
Debian on this computer, too.  I'm thinking of buying a 9.1GB IBM
Ultrastar 18ES and an Adaptec 2940U2W U2W/S host adapter.  Thanks in
advance for any input. 
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Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-27 Thread Gary Hennigan
Brian J. Stults [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
 so it can act as an ftp server.  My understanding is that a slower
 computer can act as a decent server if you use SCSI since it doesn't
 require much from the processor.  Is that right?  Also, are there any
 minimum requirements?  The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO
 ram.  It will boot from an IDE drive, but the files that will be
 available from the server will all be on the SCSI drive.  Sorry this
 isn't entirely Debian-related, but I use Debian and I want to install
 Debian on this computer, too.  I'm thinking of buying a 9.1GB IBM
 Ultrastar 18ES and an Adaptec 2940U2W U2W/S host adapter.  Thanks in
 advance for any input. 

I can't comment on the resources required, but I can say that I'd
seriously consider some of the other SCSI controllers out there. Don't
get me wrong, I have a 2940UW and haven't had any problems with it,
but Adaptec charges a premium for their products and have, in the
past, been slow to embrace Linux. 

Do a search for the topic of SCSI controllers via http://www.deja.com
and look at what folks have to say. I've seen a lot of good things
said about the other SCSI controllers that are a lot less expensive
than Adaptec.

Good Luck,
Gary


Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-27 Thread Aaron Solochek
the adaptec 2940u2w (aic-7890) is well supported in every kernel I've seen 
recently.

-Aaron Solochek
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Gary Hennigan wrote:

 Brian J. Stults [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
  so it can act as an ftp server.  My understanding is that a slower
  computer can act as a decent server if you use SCSI since it doesn't
  require much from the processor.  Is that right?  Also, are there any
  minimum requirements?  The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO
  ram.  It will boot from an IDE drive, but the files that will be
  available from the server will all be on the SCSI drive.  Sorry this
  isn't entirely Debian-related, but I use Debian and I want to install
  Debian on this computer, too.  I'm thinking of buying a 9.1GB IBM
  Ultrastar 18ES and an Adaptec 2940U2W U2W/S host adapter.  Thanks in
  advance for any input.

 I can't comment on the resources required, but I can say that I'd
 seriously consider some of the other SCSI controllers out there. Don't
 get me wrong, I have a 2940UW and haven't had any problems with it,
 but Adaptec charges a premium for their products and have, in the
 past, been slow to embrace Linux.

 Do a search for the topic of SCSI controllers via http://www.deja.com
 and look at what folks have to say. I've seen a lot of good things
 said about the other SCSI controllers that are a lot less expensive
 than Adaptec.

 Good Luck,
 Gary

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Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-27 Thread Gary Hennigan
Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 the adaptec 2940u2w (aic-7890) is well supported in every kernel
 I've seen recently.

As I stated, I haven't had any problems with the driver not
working. It's more a question of whether Adaptec's product is worth
the premium price they place on their hardware and their past
reluctance to support Linux (this has reportedly changed since the
author of the Adaptec driver works for Redhat and thus has a company
behind him with which to push Adaptec).

At any rate, it's his decision to make. I would just urge him to
research other products before buying in to Adaptec as I did.

Gary


Re: system requirements for SCSI

2000-01-27 Thread aphro
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Brian J. Stults wrote:

bs7452 I want to by a SCSI drive and controller for one of my older computers
bs7452 so it can act as an ftp server.  My understanding is that a slower
bs7452 computer can act as a decent server if you use SCSI since it doesn't
bs7452 require much from the processor.  Is that right?  Also, are there any

yep thats right

bs7452 minimum requirements?  The computer is a Gateway P166 with 32MB of EDO
bs7452 ram.  It will boot from an IDE drive, but the files that will be
bs7452 available from the server will all be on the SCSI drive.  Sorry this
bs7452 isn't entirely Debian-related, but I use Debian and I want to install
bs7452 Debian on this computer, too.  I'm thinking of buying a 9.1GB IBM
bs7452 Ultrastar 18ES and an Adaptec 2940U2W U2W/S host adapter.  Thanks in
bs7452 advance for any input. 

no minimum requirements for scsi, just need a system compadible with the
scsi card.  most boards have no problems with adaptec cards, those that
might usually are fixed with bios updates.

scsi will for sure improve I/O performance for file serving.

nate

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