Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
Right, I made the mistake of keying in numbers. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Thu, 16 Mar 2023, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > root@taf:~# tasksel > > Software selection > > -- > > > > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined > > collections of software. > > > > 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma > > 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server > > 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon > > 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop > > > > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) > > > > Choose software to install: 1 9 > > > > > > Installing packages > > --- > > > > ..100% > > > > > > > > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how > your list was generated? > > Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks > the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen > > All best, as ever > > Andy Cater > > > > > Jude > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > >
Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 05:29:11PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how > your list was generated? > > Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks > the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen The version of tasksel in bullseye is using whiptail. unicorn:~$ ps -ft pts/3 UID PIDPPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD greg1011 998 0 Jan24 pts/300:00:00 bash greg 41620991011 3 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/tasks greg 4162202 4162099 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/ greg 4162210 4162202 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/tasksel/tas greg 4162212 4162202 0 13:44 pts/300:00:00 whiptail --backtitle Package I would guess the bookworm also does, but haven't confirmed that. As you say, the interface is meant to be used interactively, with the user moving the cursor up and down with Arrow keys, and toggling selection boxes with Space Bar. I have no idea how a vision-impaired user would handle this, but I'm intrigued to learn.
Re: apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > root@taf:~# tasksel > Software selection > -- > > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined > collections of software. > > 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma > 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server > 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon > 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop > > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) > > Choose software to install: 1 9 > > > Installing packages > --- > > ..100% > > > Tasksel works for a sighted user - can you help the list with how your list was generated? Sighted users see [ ] type boxes - toggling space bar checks/unchecks the box by putting a * in it - I think that's in a busybox style screen All best, as ever Andy Cater > > Jude > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . >
apparently bookworm tasksel is deprecated or broken
root@taf:~# tasksel Software selection -- You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined collections of software. 1. Debian desktop environment 3. ... Xfce 5. ... KDE Plasma 7. ... MATE 9. ... LXQt 11. SSH server 2. ... GNOME 4. ... GNOME Flashback 6. ... Cinnamon 8. ... LXDE 10. web server 12. laptop (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.) Choose software to install: 1 9 Installing packages --- ..100% Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) .
Re: tasksel
Hi All thanks for the help on this, I am slowly getting somewhere with this. For now, and with the help, I am going to get the option menu working, so this allows a single option to be selected from the menu and run, then goes back to the menu for the user to choose the next option if needed. Once I am more comfortable with this, I can look at doing something with the checkbox component of whiptail etc. Thanks again Regards Paul On 31/08/2019 19:52, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 31/08/2019 08:11, Paul Sutton wrote: >> On 30/08/2019 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 05:31:50PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >>>> What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such >>>> as tasksel >>> A program named dialog, or whiptail which is basically "dialog lite". >>> Both of these are in packages with the same name as the program. >>> >>> ii dialog 1.3-20190211-1 amd64Displays user-friendly >>> dialog box >>> ii whiptail 0.52.20-8 amd64Displays user-friendly >>> dialog box >> Cool thanks for this, I will have a look. >> >> Regards >> >> Paul > > Another question > > Using whiptail and trying to add a gui wrapper around a shell script I > wrote to add a menu to the update process. > > #!/bin/bash > echo "This script MUST be run with root priviledges" > echo > echo "Enter number of the option you would like" > echo > OPTIONS="Update List Upgrade Autoremove Clean Quit" > echo > select opt in $OPTIONS; do > if [ "$opt" = "Update" ] ; then > echo Update > apt update > elif [ "$opt" = "List" ] ; then > echo "List Upgradable package" > apt upgrade > elif [ "$opt" = "Upgrade" ] ; then > echo "Upgrade packages" > apt upgrade -y > elif [ "$opt" = "Autoremove" ] ; then > echo "Autoremove packages" > apt autoremove > elif [ "$opt" = "Clean" ] ; then > echo "Clean Up" > apt clean > elif [ "$opt" = "Quit" ] ; then > echo "Thank you and goodbye" > exit > else > echo "bad option" > fi > done > > > The above works fine > > > I am now trying to create a checkbox option menu so that the user can > choose which options are needed then when pressing ok these are executed > in order. > > > whiptail --title "Check list example" --checklist \ > "Choose user's permissions" 20 78 4 \ > "NET_OUTBOUND" "Allow connections to other hosts" ON \ > "NET_INBOUND" "Allow connections from other hosts" OFF \ > "LOCAL_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of local devices" OFF \ > "REMOTE_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of remote devices" OFF > > I am just struggling to figure out how to : > > take the above, if the user chooses say 1,2 and 4 then the commands > associated with those options are executed. > > so I could edit the above to say for the first option > > "UPDATE" "RUN apt update" OFF \ > > Then if that option is selected it runs > apt update > > So another example I found to try and help me was > > #!/bin/bash > DISTROS=$(whiptail --title "Test Checklist Dialog" --checklist \ > "Choose preferred Linux distros" 15 40 4 \ > "debian" "Venerable Debian" ON \ > "ubuntu" "Popular Ubuntu" OFF \ > "centos" "Stable CentOS" ON \ > "mint" "Rising Star Mint" OFF 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3) > > exitstatus=$? > if [ $exitstatus = 0 ]; then > echo "Your favorite distros are:" $DISTROS > else > echo "You chose Cancel." > fi > > But I am still confused as to how to actually take each selected option and > use if / else statements to do something with this. I think the issue is I > don't really understand stderr properly or how to capture more than one > option. > > Been trying different things for about an hour, so can keep trying just not > getting very far. > > So far I have come up with the following for what I trying to do. So can add > / remove options to the checklist menu ok. > > whiptail --title "Check list example" --checklist \ > "Choose user's permissions" 20 40 4 \ > "Hello" "Print Hello" OFF \ > "Goodbye" "Print Goodbye" OFF \ > "CYA" "Print cya" OFF \ > > CHOICEs=$? > > echo $CHOICEs > echo $? > > which just outputs for example > > "Hello" "Goodbye"0 > 0 > > > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Bash_Shell_Scripting/Whiptail is sort of useful > for getting menus up but not doing anything with the output, it seems to > assume people know how to do that confidently. > > Thanks > > Paul > -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893 1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D https://fediverse.party/ - zl...@social.isurf.ca
Re: tasksel
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 07:52:23PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> #!/bin/bash
> OPTIONS="Update List Upgrade Autoremove Clean Quit"
> select opt in $OPTIONS; do
:-( :-(
Please don't abuse string variables to hold lists in bash. Bash has
array variables. Use an array to hold a list.
> elif [ "$opt" = "Upgrade" ] ; then
> echo "Upgrade packages"
> apt upgrade -y
> elif [ "$opt" = "Autoremove" ] ; then
> echo "Autoremove packages"
> apt autoremove
You might want to learn about the case command.
> I am now trying to create a checkbox option menu so that the user can
> choose which options are needed then when pressing ok these are executed
> in order.
>
>
> whiptail --title "Check list example" --checklist \
> "Choose user's permissions" 20 78 4 \
> "NET_OUTBOUND" "Allow connections to other hosts" ON \
> "NET_INBOUND" "Allow connections from other hosts" OFF \
> "LOCAL_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of local devices" OFF \
> "REMOTE_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of remote devices" OFF
>
> I am just struggling to figure out how to :
>
> take the above, if the user chooses say 1,2 and 4 then the commands
> associated with those options are executed.
OK, let's start from the beginning. First, we have to figure out which
dialog/whiptail subcommand you're using and how it *works*, and then write
the script around that.
You're using whiptail --checklist, apparently, so let's experiment to find
out how that one works.
First I'll type out a sample command and run it and see what happens:
wooledg:~$ whiptail --checklist "Choose wisely" 20 78 4 "NET_OUT" "Allow out"
ON "NET_IN" "Allow in" OFF "LOCAL_MT" "Local mount" OFF "REMOTE_MT" "Remote
mount" OFF
After pressing Enter, and then selecting options 1, 2 and 4 as you
indicated, my terminal looks like this:
wooledg:~$ whiptail --checklist "Choose wisely" 20 78 4 "NET_OUT" "Allow out"
ON "NET_IN" "Allow in" OFF "LOCAL_MT" "Local mount" OFF "REMOTE_MT" "Remote
mount" OFF
"NET_OUT" "NET_IN" "REMOTE_MT"wooledg:~$
So, it wrote the string ...
"NET_OUT" "NET_IN" "REMOTE_MT"
... WITH the quotes (1one), to either stdout or stderr. We need to
figure out which one it was.
So I'll add a redirection to the command, and try again:
wooledg:~$ whiptail --checklist "Choose wisely" 20 78 4 "NET_OUT" "Allow out"
ON "NET_IN" "Allow in" OFF "LOCAL_MT" "Local mount" OFF "REMOTE_MT" "Remote
mount" OFF 2>foo
And after that:
wooledg:~$ whiptail --checklist "Choose wisely" 20 78 4 "NET_OUT" "Allow out"
ON "NET_IN" "Allow in" OFF "LOCAL_MT" "Local mount" OFF "REMOTE_MT" "Remote
mount" OFF 2>foo
wooledg:~$ cat foo
"NET_OUT" "NET_IN" "REMOTE_MT"wooledg:~$
So, it wrote the string '"NET_OUT" "NET_IN" "REMOTE_MT"' to stderr, with
no trailing newline. All right. It's not ideal, but we can live with it.
Since you've chosen simple all-alphabetic strings as your selection keys,
we can simply strip out all those quote characters, and then split it into
words.
Here's your script. It pretty much hits the limits of what bash can
comfortably do. If you need this to be *any* fancier or prettier than
it is, you should rewrite it in a better language. (I added a few more
comments than I would've used in a real script, because it's intended
as a teaching example. It would be slightly shorter with some of the
comments and blank lines removed.)
#!/bin/bash
# Associative arrays to map our codename keys to their labels, to their
# default states in the checklist, and to their action commands.
# We need a non-associative array to hold the keys so that their order is
# preserved in at least one place. The order of the keys in an associative
# array is not preserved.
keys=(NET_OUTBOUND NET_INBOUND LOCAL_MOUNT REMOTE_MOUNT)
declare -A label
label=(
[NET_OUTBOUND]="Allow connections to other hosts"
[NET_INBOUND]="Allow connections from other hosts"
[LOCAL_MOUNT]="Allow mounting of local devices"
[REMOTE_MOUNT]="Allow mounting of remote devices"
)
declare -A default
default=(
[NET_OUTBOUND]=ON
[NET_INBOUND]=OFF
[LOCAL_MOUNT]=OFF
[REMOTE_MOUNT]=OFF
)
declare -A action
action=(
[NET_OUTBOUND]=net_outbound
[NET_INBOUND]=net_inbound
[LOCAL_MOUNT]=local_mount
[REMOTE_MOUNT]=remote_mount
)
# Functions to be called for each selection.
net_outbound() {
: your code here
echo "for testing: net_outbound was chosen"
}
net_inbound() {
: your code here
echo "for testing: net_inbound was chosen"
}
local_mount() {
: your code here
echo "for testing: local_mount was chosen"
}
remote_mount() {
: your code here
echo "for testing: remote_mount was chosen"
}
# Now, the checklist menu.
# Build up the argument list dynamically from the keys and their associated
# labels and default states.
args=(
--title "Check list example"
--checklist "Choose user's permissions"
20 78 4
)
for k in "${keys[@]}"; do
args+=("$k" "${label[$k]}" "${default[$k]}")
done
result=$(whiptail "${args[@]}" 2>&1 1>/d
Re: tasksel
On 31/08/2019 08:11, Paul Sutton wrote: > > On 30/08/2019 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 05:31:50PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >>> What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such >>> as tasksel >> A program named dialog, or whiptail which is basically "dialog lite". >> Both of these are in packages with the same name as the program. >> >> ii dialog 1.3-20190211-1 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog >> box >> ii whiptail 0.52.20-8 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog >> box > Cool thanks for this, I will have a look. > > Regards > > Paul Another question Using whiptail and trying to add a gui wrapper around a shell script I wrote to add a menu to the update process. #!/bin/bash echo "This script MUST be run with root priviledges" echo echo "Enter number of the option you would like" echo OPTIONS="Update List Upgrade Autoremove Clean Quit" echo select opt in $OPTIONS; do if [ "$opt" = "Update" ] ; then echo Update apt update elif [ "$opt" = "List" ] ; then echo "List Upgradable package" apt upgrade elif [ "$opt" = "Upgrade" ] ; then echo "Upgrade packages" apt upgrade -y elif [ "$opt" = "Autoremove" ] ; then echo "Autoremove packages" apt autoremove elif [ "$opt" = "Clean" ] ; then echo "Clean Up" apt clean elif [ "$opt" = "Quit" ] ; then echo "Thank you and goodbye" exit else echo "bad option" fi done The above works fine I am now trying to create a checkbox option menu so that the user can choose which options are needed then when pressing ok these are executed in order. whiptail --title "Check list example" --checklist \ "Choose user's permissions" 20 78 4 \ "NET_OUTBOUND" "Allow connections to other hosts" ON \ "NET_INBOUND" "Allow connections from other hosts" OFF \ "LOCAL_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of local devices" OFF \ "REMOTE_MOUNT" "Allow mounting of remote devices" OFF I am just struggling to figure out how to : take the above, if the user chooses say 1,2 and 4 then the commands associated with those options are executed. so I could edit the above to say for the first option "UPDATE" "RUN apt update" OFF \ Then if that option is selected it runs apt update So another example I found to try and help me was #!/bin/bash DISTROS=$(whiptail --title "Test Checklist Dialog" --checklist \ "Choose preferred Linux distros" 15 40 4 \ "debian" "Venerable Debian" ON \ "ubuntu" "Popular Ubuntu" OFF \ "centos" "Stable CentOS" ON \ "mint" "Rising Star Mint" OFF 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3) exitstatus=$? if [ $exitstatus = 0 ]; then echo "Your favorite distros are:" $DISTROS else echo "You chose Cancel." fi But I am still confused as to how to actually take each selected option and use if / else statements to do something with this. I think the issue is I don't really understand stderr properly or how to capture more than one option. Been trying different things for about an hour, so can keep trying just not getting very far. So far I have come up with the following for what I trying to do. So can add / remove options to the checklist menu ok. whiptail --title "Check list example" --checklist \ "Choose user's permissions" 20 40 4 \ "Hello" "Print Hello" OFF \ "Goodbye" "Print Goodbye" OFF \ "CYA" "Print cya" OFF \ CHOICEs=$? echo $CHOICEs echo $? which just outputs for example "Hello" "Goodbye"0 0 https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Bash_Shell_Scripting/Whiptail is sort of useful for getting menus up but not doing anything with the output, it seems to assume people know how to do that confidently. Thanks Paul -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893 1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D https://fediverse.party/ - zl...@social.isurf.ca
Re: tasksel
On 30/08/2019 18:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 05:31:50PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such >> as tasksel > > A program named dialog, or whiptail which is basically "dialog lite". > Both of these are in packages with the same name as the program. > > ii dialog 1.3-20190211-1 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog > box > ii whiptail 0.52.20-8 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog > box Cool thanks for this, I will have a look. Regards Paul > -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/zleap/ gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893 1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D
Re: tasksel
On Fri 30 Aug 2019 at 13:11:52 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 05:31:50PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > > What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such > > as tasksel > > A program named dialog, or whiptail which is basically "dialog lite". > Both of these are in packages with the same name as the program. > > ii dialog 1.3-20190211-1 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog > box > ii whiptail 0.52.20-8 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog > box I've never used whiptail but dialog is a brilliant utility. For devising menus and implementing them it is unbeatable. It has many, many uses beyond tasksel. yad and zenity are GUI alternatives. -- Brian
Re: tasksel
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 05:31:50PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such > as tasksel A program named dialog, or whiptail which is basically "dialog lite". Both of these are in packages with the same name as the program. ii dialog 1.3-20190211-1 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog box ii whiptail 0.52.20-8 amd64Displays user-friendly dialog box
tasksel
Hi What tool is used to produce the graphical interface for programs such as tasksel - screen shot below will be up for 30 days. https://upload.disroot.org/r/2sBMygyH#8FzOfwj8v/TZNGUW4OnbR7Hum+xAJXLPJdpp6rxPMpQ= I think it is something like curses, or ncurses but I am not sure. Thanks Paul -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net gnupg : 7D6D B682 F351 8D08 1893 1E16 F086 5537 D066 302D https://fediverse.party/ - zl...@social.isurf.ca
debian stretch preseed tasksel and clock-setup not working
Hello. I use in preseed.cfg the following: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard tasksel tasksel/first seen false d-i clock-setup/utc boolean false d-i clock-setup/utc seen false I set seen as false to view the value that was selected. Nor tasksel, nor clock-setup/utc does not set I specify. Inseed tasksel/first have default selections and clock-setup/utc is set to true. debconf-get tasksel/first - gives me standard debconf-get clock-setup/utc - gives false So seems debconf ignores this two parameters. How to specify needed?
Re: Installing Debian from one CD and one DVD and loading Gnome with TASKSEL
On Thu 13 Oct 2016 at 14:08:03 -0600, William Lee Valentine wrote: > I had only the first CD and the first DVD for the current version of > Debian with which to install Debian on one of my computers. I managed You only need one of these. Which one did you use? > the installation, however, and got a command prompt after booting. I This is what you would get if you chose not to install a DE when extra software was offered as part of the install. Looks like you deselected the option. Is that correct? > then used TASKSEL to download Gnome. This succeeded; but, on rebooting, > I still got a command prompt. What command did you use to download GNOME? > My documentation tells me to change the value of INITDEFAULT from 3 to 5 > within the file INITTAB, which sits in /ETC. Debian will then boot to > Gnome, and not the command prompt. Which documentation is this? Please give its exact location on your system. > The current version of Debian, however, does not have a file INITTAB Correct. The init system is systemd; systemd doesn't use inittab. > under /ETC. How do I get Debian to boot to Gnome, currently, and not to > a command prompt? Answers to the queries here could help you achieve your objective. -- Brian.
Re: Installing Debian from one CD and one DVD and loading Gnome with TASKSEL
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 02:08:03PM -0600, William Lee Valentine wrote: > I had only the first CD and the first DVD for the current version of > Debian with which to install Debian on one of my computers. I managed > the installation, however, and got a command prompt after booting. I > then used TASKSEL to download Gnome. This succeeded; but, on rebooting, > I still got a command prompt. > > My documentation tells me to change the value of INITDEFAULT from 3 to 5 > within the file INITTAB, which sits in /ETC. Debian will then boot to > Gnome, and not the command prompt. > > The current version of Debian, however, does not have a file INITTAB > under /ETC. How do I get Debian to boot to Gnome, currently, and not to > a command prompt? > > Thank you for your help. > > -- William Lee Valentine > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus Tasksel - you'll need Debian desktop environment AND Gnome. That should install a few hundred packages. At that point, it should work correctly and present you with a login manager in GDM Hope this helps, AndyC
Re: Installing Debian from one CD and one DVD and loading Gnome with TASKSEL
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 02:08:03PM -0600, William Lee Valentine wrote: > The current version of Debian, however, does not have a file INITTAB > under /ETC. How do I get Debian to boot to Gnome, currently, and not to > a command prompt? Just make sure the gdm3 package is installed, and you should get the graphical login (the technical term is "display manager"). Jessie uses systemd to control services. It's very different from the old sysvinit way (/etc/inittab and /etc/init.d/* and so on). The VERY basic version is: systemctl start servicename systemctl stop servicename systemctl status servicename There's obviously a lot more to it, but that's enough for one day.
Installing Debian from one CD and one DVD and loading Gnome with TASKSEL
I had only the first CD and the first DVD for the current version of Debian with which to install Debian on one of my computers. I managed the installation, however, and got a command prompt after booting. I then used TASKSEL to download Gnome. This succeeded; but, on rebooting, I still got a command prompt. My documentation tells me to change the value of INITDEFAULT from 3 to 5 within the file INITTAB, which sits in /ETC. Debian will then boot to Gnome, and not the command prompt. The current version of Debian, however, does not have a file INITTAB under /ETC. How do I get Debian to boot to Gnome, currently, and not to a command prompt? Thank you for your help. -- William Lee Valentine --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Tasksel not showing desktop enviroment
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 02:08:32PM +0530, Raman Pandarinathan wrote: > Hi, > Today I download amd64 CD-1 image. The installation is smooth. However > taks sel shows only -ssh-server, mail-server and standard system. The > Desktop environment or other options are not show. As as result only > the base system is installed - no desktop environment is installed, I > have to install gnome manually. > > The disk info is > Debian GNU/Linux testing "Squeeze" - Official Snapshot amd64 CD > Binary-1 20101025-04:47 > > Raman.P I would suggest to install the package 'gnome-desktop-environment' # aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment That will bring in all of gnome in for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101027134918.ga7...@shellium.org
Re: Tasksel not showing desktop enviroment
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:08:32 +0530, Raman Pandarinathan wrote: > Today I download amd64 CD-1 image. The installation is smooth. However > taks sel shows only -ssh-server, mail-server and standard system. The > Desktop environment or other options are not show. As as result only the > base system is installed - no desktop environment is installed, I have > to install gnome manually. > > The disk info is > Debian GNU/Linux testing "Squeeze" - Official Snapshot amd64 CD Binary-1 > 20101025-04:47 It could be an error of the installer image (not the first time I see it with the ISO CD). You can test another images (mini iso or different daily/weekly images). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.27.10.21...@gmail.com
Tasksel not showing desktop enviroment
Hi, Today I download amd64 CD-1 image. The installation is smooth. However taks sel shows only -ssh-server, mail-server and standard system. The Desktop environment or other options are not show. As as result only the base system is installed - no desktop environment is installed, I have to install gnome manually. The disk info is Debian GNU/Linux testing "Squeeze" - Official Snapshot amd64 CD Binary-1 20101025-04:47 Raman.P -- blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinw6e+7wsmkm6mmn8rbkpdcndrkzf3obm3yw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: tasksel problems
Quoth Andrew Sackville-West at 2009-10-13 00:34... > I've not used LVM+crypt from the installer directly, though I've > retrofitted it to my laptop. It can be a pain (kernel upgrades are > always scary, yet somehow seem to always work), but I find it worth it > for peace of mind. I know that my setup is not bulletproof, but it > will disuade most, and certainly is enough for my purposes and the > level of security my data requires. > > I'm not suggesting you wipe and restart. You can certainly retroactively use > crypt on one of your logical volumes (say, /home, perhaps) so that the > bulk of your data is secured reasonably well. Moving /tmp into tmpfs > may be wise as well. Then the only thing to worry about is swap and > possibly resume images stored there. It's all a matter of what level > of risk you're comfortable with, how valuable your data really is to > someone else, and so forth. Thanks for your thoughts. I was going to retro-fit the encrypted partitions in the first place but had not put /boot in a separate partition. Attempts to use gparted to resize / (using Knoppix CD) were unsuccessful so I gave up and decided to do it the "proper" way. However, as the "proper" way caused me problems - including making it VERY hard to install the backports kernel I need for my wlan - I'll certainly see if I can use the original recipe I was using once I've got the system up and running again. Cheers M -- Matthew Smith Smiffytech - Technology Consulting & Web Application Development Business: http://www.smiffytech.com/ Blog/personal: http://www.smiffysplace.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/smiffy Skype: msmiffy Twitter: @smiffy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: tasksel problems
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 07:26:54PM +1030, Matthew Smith wrote: > Quoth Matthew Smith at 2009-10-12 12:29... > > So, how do I get the nice tasksel menu (with all the options) that I get > > when booted from netinst? (I won't even ask why the mirrors won't work > > when they did 5 days ago when I did the original install.) > > Not exactly answering my own question, just doing a follow-up FYI: [...] > > * LVM+crypt is a pain and makes me question whether it is ready, as it > is, for prime-time. I have decided instead just to try really hard not > to get my laptop stolen. To do this, I will rely on my PacSafe > armoured, anti-theft case and some common sense ;-) I've not used LVM+crypt from the installer directly, though I've retrofitted it to my laptop. It can be a pain (kernel upgrades are always scary, yet somehow seem to always work), but I find it worth it for peace of mind. I know that my setup is not bulletproof, but it will disuade most, and certainly is enough for my purposes and the level of security my data requires. I'm not suggesting you wipe and restart. You can certainly retroactively use crypt on one of your logical volumes (say, /home, perhaps) so that the bulk of your data is secured reasonably well. Moving /tmp into tmpfs may be wise as well. Then the only thing to worry about is swap and possibly resume images stored there. It's all a matter of what level of risk you're comfortable with, how valuable your data really is to someone else, and so forth. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tasksel problems
* Matthew Smith 12.10.2009 > Quoth Matthew Smith at 2009-10-12 12:29... > > So, how do I get the nice tasksel menu (with all the options) that I get > > when booted from netinst? (I won't even ask why the mirrors won't work > > when they did 5 days ago when I did the original install.) > > It would be really nice if the installer (we're talking netinst here) > asked if I want to set up the network using DHCP or not. DHCP here is a > pain and a last resort. I've now found the best thing to do if one does > NOT want DHCP configuration when it's available is to pull out the > network cable until it allows you to do manual configuration. (I have > now done this and things are proceeding smoothly.) > > * Netinst should give the option for manual network configuration > WITHOUT having to pull the cable. If there is such an option, it's > well-hidden. Hello Matthew, when you boot your install cd you can choose 'Expert installation'. Then you have much more interventions in the install process. Your question about DHCP can you solve with a bootoption. Press for all the possibilities of bootoptions. Hth Michael -- Having more money does not insure happiness. People with ten million dollars are no happier than people with nine million dollars. -Hobart Brown signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tasksel problems
Quoth Matthew Smith at 2009-10-12 12:29... > So, how do I get the nice tasksel menu (with all the options) that I get > when booted from netinst? (I won't even ask why the mirrors won't work > when they did 5 days ago when I did the original install.) Not exactly answering my own question, just doing a follow-up FYI: Apart from the painful slowness of setting up with LVM+encryption, too many things weren't behaving as I wanted. I've wiped the disc yet again and have started doing a standard installation from scratch. The issue I was having with the mirrors turned out to be two issues: 1) The DNS relay on my router was playing up, so it wasn't resolving the listed mirrors. 2) My ftp mirror (mirror.internode.on.net - only available to subscribers) was not accepted by the installation programme. I have a nasty suspicion that it was trying to connect with http rather than ftp. Adding the ftp:// scheme didn't help. It's sad that I can't use this server because it is only a couple of network hops away and - better still - is unmetered for me. It would be really nice if the installer (we're talking netinst here) asked if I want to set up the network using DHCP or not. DHCP here is a pain and a last resort. I've now found the best thing to do if one does NOT want DHCP configuration when it's available is to pull out the network cable until it allows you to do manual configuration. (I have now done this and things are proceeding smoothly.) CONCLUSIONS: * Netinst appears to have issues with manual mirror selection when there is no ftp at the start of the host name of ftp servers. * Netinst should give the option for manual network configuration WITHOUT having to pull the cable. If there is such an option, it's well-hidden. * LVM+crypt is a pain and makes me question whether it is ready, as it is, for prime-time. I have decided instead just to try really hard not to get my laptop stolen. To do this, I will rely on my PacSafe armoured, anti-theft case and some common sense ;-) * My question regarding getting tasksel going post-install remains unanswered, but is now irrelevant for me, although others might benefit from this knowledge. * To pick up on another current topic, debian-user is probably the most friendly and informative list I've encountered in recent years - and long may it continue. Recent troll behaviour from one person is very much atypical of my experiences here. So there. Cheers M -- Matthew Smith Smiffytech - Technology Consulting & Web Application Development Business: http://www.smiffytech.com/ Blog/personal: http://www.smiffysplace.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/smiffy Skype: msmiffy Twitter: @smiffy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
tasksel problems
Hi Folks After I had gotten my new laptop all running nicely, I realised that I'd forgotten to encrypt the partitions as I'd intended :( So, I started over. For some reason, the installer (Lenny netinst) is now having problems scanning the mirrors. Those entered manually and those from the list all fail - but I'm not even seeing network traffic on the switch port when it says it's doing the scans. The network *is* configured OK. Allowed the machine to finish with just the standard installation (no talking to mirrors.) Tested network connectivity after boot by doing an apt-get update, no issues. My problem is this: I want to be able to run tasksel so that I can get all those 100s of packages installed en-masse. If I run tasksel alone, it just gives me the standard option, not all the desktop, laptop, lamp, etc., that I want. Tried to do a repair installation to see if I was able to do this but - after having to reformat the root partition and re-installing base - I was back to the no talking to mirrors problem. Debian installation guide not forthcoming. So, how do I get the nice tasksel menu (with all the options) that I get when booted from netinst? (I won't even ask why the mirrors won't work when they did 5 days ago when I did the original install.) Cheers M -- Matthew Smith Smiffytech - Technology Consulting & Web Application Development Business: http://www.smiffytech.com/ Blog/personal: http://www.smiffysplace.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/smiffy Skype: msmiffy Twitter: @smiffy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 07:50:34PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 01:41:08AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > I don't see the compiler. The first Etch install I did (back when it > was testing), it dragged in the compiler and would have taken me > something like 24 hrs to download, which was when I discovered that a > minimal install was faster. I only use the compiler when I'm ready to > write something in Ada. Do you mean gcc? $ apt-cache show gcc | grep Priority Priority: optional Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 01:41:08AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > That sounds plausible, but how do you know that? I was curious since > the "standard system" option apparently is new in the etch installer, > and previously I was used to not selecting anything from the tasksel > dialog. Anyway, brute experimentation shows the following 73 packages > are installed iff the "standard system" option is selected: > > at libidn11 perl-modules > bc libisc11 pidentd > bind9-host libkrb53 policycoreutils > dc liblockfile1 portmap > dictionaries-common liblwres9procmail > dnsutilslibmagic1python > doc-debian libnfsidmap2 python-central > doc-linux-text libpcre3 python-minimal > exim4 librpcsecgss3python-newt > exim4-base libsemanage1 python-selinux > exim4-configlibtasn1-3-bin python-semanage > exim4-daemon-light lsof python-support > filem4 reportbug > finger mailxselinux-policy-refpolicy-target > ftp mime-support sharutils > gettext-basempackstrace > iamerican mtools tcsh > ibritishmtr-tiny telnet > ispell mutt texinfo > lessncurses-term time > libbind9-0 nfs-common w3m > libdns22openssh-client wamerican > libevent1 patchwhois > libgc1c2pciutils > libgpmg1perl > > I think this looks like the what you'd get with a minimal install in > previous debian stables. It's nice to have the option for an even > minimaler minimal install now. I don't see the compiler. The first Etch install I did (back when it was testing), it dragged in the compiler and would have taken me something like 24 hrs to download, which was when I discovered that a minimal install was faster. I only use the compiler when I'm ready to write something in Ada. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install from list of packages [Was: Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system"]
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:23:29PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > > > > [1] Doug's method is good, but I want to automate it further. I just > > > have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i' > > > suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections' > > > > I'm not sure that's necessary; if the search pattern yields what you want > > to install, then just replace the search subcommand with install. > > Let me elaborate. Doug's (Douglas Tutty) idea of a backup/reinstall > means saving the output of 'aptitude search ~i!~M' to a file and then > using that to select packages on a clean base install. I've never automated it because I'm on dialup. The first thing I want is mc (since I use it as my main file browser and is very useful during restore). This takes a while to download and install. I do X last and piecemeal to get it working step-by-step: first with rxvt, then with icewm. Then I start on the Xapps (e.g. Konqueror). The actual selections of packages only takes a total of about 1/2 hr and a lot of that time is spent calculating download time and negotiating telephone time with my wife. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install from list of packages [Was: Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system"]
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:39:59AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
> Not to be pedantic, but I'd recommend AWK for this sort of thing, e.g.,
>
> awk '{print $2, "install"}' bak/pkg.list | dpkg --set-selections
Sure, I just don't know it ;)
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Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 19:45:06 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: [...] > I just > have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i' > suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections' This might work directly: aptitude -F '%pinstall' search '!~M~i' Some cleanup could be nice, though: aptitude -F '%pinstall' search '!~M~i' | sed 's/ \+/ /' -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install from list of packages [Was: Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system"]
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:23:29PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
>
> > > [1] Doug's method is good, but I want to automate it further. I just
> > > have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i'
> > > suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections'
> >
> > I'm not sure that's necessary; if the search pattern yields what you want
> > to install, then just replace the search subcommand with install.
>
> Let me elaborate. Doug's (Douglas Tutty) idea of a backup/reinstall
> means saving the output of 'aptitude search ~i!~M' to a file and then
> using that to select packages on a clean base install.
>
> I think it can be automated like this:
>
> aptitude search ~i!~M > pkg.lst
>
> sed -e 's/^i\ *//' -e 's/\ -\ .*$/install/' bak/pkg.list \
> | dpkg --set-selections
>
> aptitude install -y [--without-recommends]
Not to be pedantic, but I'd recommend AWK for this sort of thing, e.g.,
awk '{print $2, "install"}' bak/pkg.list | dpkg --set-selections
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Install from list of packages [Was: Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system"]
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > > [1] Doug's method is good, but I want to automate it further. I just > > have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i' > > suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections' > > I'm not sure that's necessary; if the search pattern yields what you want > to install, then just replace the search subcommand with install. Let me elaborate. Doug's (Douglas Tutty) idea of a backup/reinstall means saving the output of 'aptitude search ~i!~M' to a file and then using that to select packages on a clean base install. I think it can be automated like this: aptitude search ~i!~M > pkg.lst sed -e 's/^i\ *//' -e 's/\ -\ .*$/install/' bak/pkg.list \ | dpkg --set-selections aptitude install -y [--without-recommends] Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 07:45:06PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 01:41:08AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > > > > It seems to that a base install includes 'required' and 'important', > > > while 'standard' will add packages that are considered, well, standard > > > on a *nix system, but won't make it unusable if missing (e.g. bc, > > > openbsd-inetd, ...) > > > > That sounds plausible, but how do you know that? I was curious since > > It's just a guess. For my current install (sid) I used Doug's method[1]: > > 1. Do not select any task > 2. Add just the packages I need in aptitude interactive mode That's also what I've always done (minus the interactive bit ;-). > Currently I have all packages of priority 'important' and 'required' but > I am missing many 'standard' (I do use replacements for some). The "standard system" option in tasksel is new, but as you suggest it seems to map directly to packages marked with priority Standard. It's curious that it doesn't appear when you run tasksel at a later time, but my perl-foo (in grokking tasksel) isn't up to the task of seeing why that is. > The priorities must be documented somewhere, probably in Policy or > Developers Reference (or both). By face value, the meaning/intent of priorities Required and Important seem clear enough, and Standard seems to make sense too, now that I see what it includes. aptitude makes it easy to see the packages with any set of priorities, and also to install them if desired. > [1] Doug's method is good, but I want to automate it further. I just > have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i' > suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections' I'm not sure that's necessary; if the search pattern yields what you want to install, then just replace the search subcommand with install. Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 01:41:08AM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > > It seems to that a base install includes 'required' and 'important', > > while 'standard' will add packages that are considered, well, standard > > on a *nix system, but won't make it unusable if missing (e.g. bc, > > openbsd-inetd, ...) > > That sounds plausible, but how do you know that? I was curious since It's just a guess. For my current install (sid) I used Doug's method[1]: 1. Do not select any task 2. Add just the packages I need in aptitude interactive mode Currently I have all packages of priority 'important' and 'required' but I am missing many 'standard' (I do use replacements for some). The priorities must be documented somewhere, probably in Policy or Developers Reference (or both). [1] Doug's method is good, but I want to automate it further. I just have to write a sed script to make the output of 'aptitude search !~M~i' suitable for 'dpkg --set-selections' Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:57:27AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:59:27PM -0800, Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > Browsing the source, /usr/bin/tasksel, shows that selecting "standard > > system" ends up running aptitude with a set of search selectors, > > something like: > > > > aptitude --without-recommends -y install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant > > > > The ~p search term matches the package priority information, and > > apparently all search terms must match (i.e., there's an implicit 'and' > > between them). > > When the search terms are separate arguments, they're handled > separately; first all packages in standard are installed, then all > packages in required, and finally all packages in important. An > implicit 'and' would result in nothing at all being installed, since no > package has more than one priority! Doh... Thanks for the clarification. -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:59:27PM -0800, Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Browsing the source, /usr/bin/tasksel, shows that selecting "standard > system" ends up running aptitude with a set of search selectors, > something like: > > aptitude --without-recommends -y install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant > > The ~p search term matches the package priority information, and > apparently all search terms must match (i.e., there's an implicit 'and' > between them). When the search terms are separate arguments, they're handled separately; first all packages in standard are installed, then all packages in required, and finally all packages in important. An implicit 'and' would result in nothing at all being installed, since no package has more than one priority! Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:22:21AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:59:27PM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > > > The search subcommand can be used to list those packages: > > > > aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant > > > > though it's still not clear what is really added in this step, since > > some of the packages were presumably installed during part of the > > base install. I might do another install without this option and > > see what the difference is... > > It seems to that a base install includes 'required' and 'important', > while 'standard' will add packages that are considered, well, standard > on a *nix system, but won't make it unusable if missing (e.g. bc, > openbsd-inetd, ...) That sounds plausible, but how do you know that? I was curious since the "standard system" option apparently is new in the etch installer, and previously I was used to not selecting anything from the tasksel dialog. Anyway, brute experimentation shows the following 73 packages are installed iff the "standard system" option is selected: at libidn11 perl-modules bc libisc11 pidentd bind9-host libkrb53 policycoreutils dc liblockfile1 portmap dictionaries-common liblwres9procmail dnsutilslibmagic1python doc-debian libnfsidmap2 python-central doc-linux-text libpcre3 python-minimal exim4 librpcsecgss3python-newt exim4-base libsemanage1 python-selinux exim4-configlibtasn1-3-bin python-semanage exim4-daemon-light lsof python-support filem4 reportbug finger mailxselinux-policy-refpolicy-target ftp mime-support sharutils gettext-basempackstrace iamerican mtools tcsh ibritishmtr-tiny telnet ispell mutt texinfo lessncurses-term time libbind9-0 nfs-common w3m libdns22openssh-client wamerican libevent1 patchwhois libgc1c2pciutils libgpmg1perl I think this looks like the what you'd get with a minimal install in previous debian stables. It's nice to have the option for an even minimaler minimal install now. Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:59:27PM -0800, Ken Irving wrote: > The search subcommand can be used to list those packages: > > aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant > > though it's still not clear what is really added in this step, since > some of the packages were presumably installed during part of the > base install. I might do another install without this option and > see what the difference is... It seems to that a base install includes 'required' and 'important', while 'standard' will add packages that are considered, well, standard on a *nix system, but won't make it unusable if missing (e.g. bc, openbsd-inetd, ...) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
etch netinst tasksel "standard system" (was Re: RAID1 Boot Partition)
Just to update an old thread and scratch an itch... On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 02:05:18PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > 4. you can rerun tasksel and pick the standard system from there. > > Is "Standard System" one of the options when running tasksel again? I > don't see it there. I've done a couple of etch installs using a recent netinst cd, and noticed the "standard system" option in the install tasksel step, and also saw that it does not show up when running tasksel later. The install docs don't seem to describe this option very well, other than this statement: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en ... A standard installation for the i386 architecture, including all standard packages and using the default 2.6 kernel, takes up 353MB of disk space. A minimal base installation, without the "Standard system" task selected, will take 225MB. Browsing the source, /usr/bin/tasksel, shows that selecting "standard system" ends up running aptitude with a set of search selectors, something like: aptitude --without-recommends -y install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant The ~p search term matches the package priority information, and apparently all search terms must match (i.e., there's an implicit 'and' between them). The search subcommand can be used to list those packages: aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant though it's still not clear what is really added in this step, since some of the packages were presumably installed during part of the base install. I might do another install without this option and see what the difference is... Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch install hangs at tasksel configuration
Hi, I'm trying to install Etch and everything goes fine until it tries to install tasksel. It then gets to "configuring tasksel" and never finishes. This happens with the net-install, the business-card installer and the official CD install. Does anyone have any ideas how I might fix this? Thanks, Jason Terk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etch install hangs at tasksel configuration
Hi, I'm trying to install Etch and everything goes fine until it tries to install tasksel. It then gets to "configuring tasksel" and never finishes. Does anyone have any ideas how I might fix this? Thanks, Jason Terk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
Nigel Henry wrote: > On Friday 23 March 2007 06:54, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: >> I tried with both apt-get and aptitude and here is the output >> (it's long): [snip output from aptitude] > I resolved it by stopping the daemon using SysV-init Editor, > then simply running apt-get dist-upgrade again, which then ran > to completion. That did it. I ran the following: # /etc/init.d/openbsd-initd stop # aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade And everything ran fine this time. Many thanks for everyones help. -- Glen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:12:12 +0100 Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>... > >> - workstation user does not and does not need to read root's mail > > > Cron reports problems by mail; I think that's why it recommends an MTA. > > Celejar > > agree ;) > but I am not interested what cron is reporting more than I was concerned > with MS Win logs, i.e.: I don't care. > > should I ? > > After painfull migration from Win2k I managed to configure really descent > desktop, that did not require attention between planned updates (sarge > 3,4, etch) for more than a year. > > I hope it's normal and not the exception in linux world. Well, if you set up a cron job and something goes wrong, cron will mail you the report. Of course, if you never do cron jobs, or they never go wrong, you don't need reports ... Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
>>... >> - workstation user does not and does not need to read root's mail > Cron reports problems by mail; I think that's why it recommends an MTA. > Celejar agree ;) but I am not interested what cron is reporting more than I was concerned with MS Win logs, i.e.: I don't care. should I ? After painfull migration from Win2k I managed to configure really descent desktop, that did not require attention between planned updates (sarge 3,4, etch) for more than a year. I hope it's normal and not the exception in linux world. rgds zb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 10:54:51PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Networking is definitely working as I can access the web. > "aptitude show openbsd-inetd" showed the status as "partially > configured". > > > Its openbsd-inetd that's messing up the works. Try > > reinstall: # apt-get install --reinstall openbsd-inetd > > I tried with both apt-get and aptitude and here is the output > (it's long): > [snip: apt runs /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd start, and start fails] Since apt doesn't give us the output, try starting it directly: #/etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd start and watch the output. Also, immediatly after: #tail -n 25 /var/log/syslog and see if there's any help there. Good luck, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:15:53 +0100 Zbigniew Wiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > 1.You run Debian. You need a mail transport agent. Many > > scripts are set up to mail information to root. Without a MTA, > > this doesn't happen. Out-of-the-box exim4 on Etch will deliver > > local mail only. > > Not true. > If one runs a workstation (like me) there is no real need for exim or > other MTA: > > - workstation user does not and does not need to read root's mail Cron reports problems by mail; I think that's why it recommends an MTA. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
On Friday 23 March 2007 06:54, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Thanks for your help. > > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > 1.You run Debian. You need a mail transport agent. Many > > scripts are set up to mail information to root. Without a MTA, > > this doesn't happen. Out-of-the-box exim4 on Etch will deliver > > local mail only. > > Ahhh, that explains why my other machine had exim installed by > default too. Thanks. > > > Since networking is notworking, and so many things in *NIX > > rely on networking even without being connected to a network, > > you want the minimum trying to run. Run in single mode > > (either reboot single or do a shutdown (no -r or -h) to > > single-user. When done do a full shutdown -r rather than > > change back to RL 2. > > Networking is definitely working as I can access the web. > "aptitude show openbsd-inetd" showed the status as "partially > configured". > > > Its openbsd-inetd that's messing up the works. Try > > reinstall: # apt-get install --reinstall openbsd-inetd > > I tried with both apt-get and aptitude and here is the output > (it's long): > > # aptitude reinstall openbsd-inetd > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Reading extended state information > Initializing package states... Done > Reading task descriptions... Done > Building tag database... Done > The following packages will be REINSTALLED: > openbsd-inetd > 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to > remove and 0 > not upgraded. > Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. > Writing extended state information... Done > Setting up openbsd-inetd (0.20050402-5) ... > Starting internet superserver: inetdinvoke-rc.d: initscript > openbsd-inetd, > action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing openbsd-inetd (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > Glen I've just had that problem with openbsd-inetd after an apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade on Etch. I resolved it by stopping the daemon using SysV-init Editor, then simply running apt-get dist-upgrade again, which then ran to completion. It would appear that the update for openbsd-inetd wasn't being installed properly because the daemon was not being stopped prior to installing the update, and is why you see the start failed comment. Don't know if that's any help. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > 1.You run Debian. You need a mail transport agent. Many > scripts are set up to mail information to root. Without a MTA, > this doesn't happen. Out-of-the-box exim4 on Etch will deliver > local mail only. Not true. If one runs a workstation (like me) there is no real need for exim or other MTA: - workstation user does not and does not need to read root's mail - runnig unconfigured MTA loads the system and is one more security issue. That's why I removed exim off using kpackage (not tasksel) Etch installs without exim if you deselect ALL items. Then "apt-get install" or "aptitude" only packages you need, the rest will be done with dependencies. After all, automatic dependency tracking is one of best features of debian. regards zb
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
n script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netbase: netbase depends on openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver; however: Package openbsd-inetd is not configured yet. Package inet-superserver is not installed. Package openbsd-inetd which provides inet-superserver is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbfs: smbfs depends on netbase (>= 2.02); however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing smbfs (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of swat: swat depends on netbase; however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing swat (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-base: exim4-base depends on netbase; however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing exim4-base (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of samba: samba depends on netbase; however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nfs-common: nfs-common depends on netbase (>= 4.24); however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing nfs-common (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-daemon-light: exim4-daemon-light depends on exim4-base (>= 4.63); however: Package exim4-base is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing exim4-daemon-light (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nfs-kernel-server: nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common (>= 1:1.0.8-1); however: Package nfs-common is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing nfs-kernel-server (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4: exim4 depends on exim4-base (>= 4.63); however: Package exim4-base is not configured yet. exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | exim4-daemon-custom; however: Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet. Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed. Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed. dpkg: error processing exim4 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: openbsd-inetd netbase smbfs swat exim4-base samba nfs-common exim4-daemon-light nfs-kernel-server exim4 > 2. I've never used tasksel. I always use aptitude interactivly. > But changing to aptitude is a whole other kettle of fish. I never use tasksel either, but this time I thought that it would be the best way to remove the same "group" of programs I installed using tasksel; like "Web Server". -- Glen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:58:14PM -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
> When I installed etch on an extra box I had plans for it to be a
> file and web development server. Then my wife needed a computer,
> so I gave it to her. But I wanted to tune it a bit, and started
> by removing all those software services she doesn't need. I used
> tasksel to remove the following tasks:
>
> * Web Server
> * File Server
> * Mail Server
>
> Now when I run an aptitude install, remove, or purge I get a long
> list of errors saying it is unable to configure some packages due
> to broken dependencies. Here is a snipped version, I hope has
> enough information:
>
> # aptitude purge
> [snip]
> Setting up openbsd-inetd (0.20050402-5) ...
> Starting internet superserver: inetdinvoke-rc.d: initscript
> openbsd-inetd,
> action "start" failed.
> dpkg: error processing openbsd-inetd (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netbase:
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-base:
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
>
> [snip similar errors on other packages]
> Question 1: What should I do? I am pretty sure I don't need
> exim4* as I have no need for a mail server, but I don't know
> about netbase and some of the others. Any help will be much
> appreciated.
>
> Question 2: Should I have *not* used tasksel for this?
>
1. You run Debian. You need a mail transport agent. Many scripts
are set up to mail information to root. Without a MTA, this
doesn't happen. Out-of-the-box exim4 on Etch will deliver local
mail only.
Since networking is notworking, and so many things in *NIX rely
on networking even without being connected to a network, you
want the minimum trying to run. Run in single mode (either
reboot single or do a shutdown (no -r or -h) to single-user.
When done do a full shutdown -r rather than change back to RL 2.
Its openbsd-inetd that's messing up the works. Try reinstall:
# apt-get install --reinstall openbsd-inetd
See what errors you get then.
Then try
#/etc/openbsd-inetd stop
#/etc/openbsd-inetd start
See what errors you get and try to track them down.
If you get stuck, send those error messages here.
2. I've never used tasksel. I always use aptitude interactivly.
But changing to aptitude is a whole other kettle of fish.
Good luck.
Doug.
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Used tasksel to remove packages, now there are dependency issues
When I installed etch on an extra box I had plans for it to be a file and web development server. Then my wife needed a computer, so I gave it to her. But I wanted to tune it a bit, and started by removing all those software services she doesn't need. I used tasksel to remove the following tasks: * Web Server * File Server * Mail Server Now when I run an aptitude install, remove, or purge I get a long list of errors saying it is unable to configure some packages due to broken dependencies. Here is a snipped version, I hope has enough information: # aptitude purge [snip] Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up openbsd-inetd (0.20050402-5) ... Starting internet superserver: inetdinvoke-rc.d: initscript openbsd-inetd, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing openbsd-inetd (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netbase: netbase depends on openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver; however: Package openbsd-inetd is not configured yet. Package inet-superserver is not installed. Package openbsd-inetd which provides inet-superserver is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-base: exim4-base depends on netbase; however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing exim4-base (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of exim4-daemon-light: exim4-daemon-light depends on exim4-base (>= 4.63); however: Package exim4-base is not configured yet. [snip similar errors on other packages] Errors were encountered while processing: openbsd-inetd netbase exim4-base exim4-daemon-light nfs-common nfs-kernel-server samba smbfs swat E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: Setting up openbsd-inetd (0.20050402-5) ... Starting internet superserver: inetdinvoke-rc.d: initscript openbsd-inetd, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing openbsd-inetd (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netbase: netbase depends on openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver; however: Package openbsd-inetd is not configured yet. Package inet-superserver is not installed. Package openbsd-inetd which provides inet-superserver is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing netbase (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbfs: smbfs depends on netbase (>= 2.02); however: Package netbase is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing smbfs (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [snip repeated errors] The following lists came from synaptic (though I may have remembered incorrectly, if so then it must be from aptitude) when I used it to mark a bunch of packages for complete removal since their configuration files were left behind after using tasksel. E: openbsd-inetd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 E: netbase: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: exim4-base: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: exim4-daemon-light: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: nfs-common: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: nfs-kernel-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: samba: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: smbfs: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured E: swat: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Question 1: What should I do? I am pretty sure I don't need exim4* as I have no need for a mail server, but I don't know about netbase and some of the others. Any help will be much appreciated. Question 2: Should I have *not* used tasksel for this? Thanks! Glen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid tasksel postgresql remove error
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 06:15:14PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > use of uninitialized value or string at line 346 in tasksel latest version > happens both at beginning and after ending of removal process to remove > broken postgresql sid packages. Hi Jude, this is the 3rd installation error you posted. if may be worthwhile to google through the debian-boot mailing list and/or subscribe/post a question there as that is a list more focused on the installation aspect of Debian. use 'site:list.debian.org' with your google search to get better results. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
sid tasksel postgresql remove error
use of uninitialized value or string at line 346 in tasksel latest version happens both at beginning and after ending of removal process to remove broken postgresql sid packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cid tasksel postgresql install failure
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:11:19 -0500 (EST) Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As root /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql restart returns no such file message and fails to restart so I figure this is in a broken state. try /etc/init.d/postgresql restart I think you might have to append the version number, e.g. for 8.1 it's /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.1 (I am not sure how older versions handled this, though.) Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:11:19 -0500 (EST) Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As root /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql restart returns no such file message > and fails to restart so I figure this is in a broken state. try /etc/init.d/postgresql restart A > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgpgzgVQEhY7B.pgp Description: PGP signature
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cid tasksel postgresql install failure
tasksel returns an error 255 when installing postgresql. Before that happens though several packages appear to get installed and configured. The error happens right after postgresql-doc is configured and 100% shows up on the screen. It's possible the installation may have gone completely correctly but tasksel coulldn't handle whatever happened and bombed out anyway. I'll check this out later today since I have to do a credit union run before the place closes and shopping today. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installer/tasksel questions
Wolfgang Lonien wrote: > But in the middle of the installation or later when I use 'tasksel' to > make it a graphical workstation or whatever, I get a lot of packages which > are recommended, but not installed. > > Why is that so? Shouldn't apt stop and ask me if I want any of these > recommended packages? No, tasks are intended to dump a predetermined set of useful packages onto your system without you making hard decisions. If you want control, select manual package selection too. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
installer/tasksel questions
Hi experts, I have successfully tried the (now officially "new") debian installer with lots of machines - on one I even installed the whole operating system from my apt-proxy using a WLAN card which was detected and configured during the base install. Great so far. But in the middle of the installation or later when I use 'tasksel' to make it a graphical workstation or whatever, I get a lot of packages which are recommended, but not installed. Why is that so? Shouldn't apt stop and ask me if I want any of these recommended packages? And should that question be posted to the devel newsgroup/mailing list as well? kind regards, wjl aka Wolfgang Lonien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
> > You can run 'tasksel' from the command line. If it is not there you > don't have a complete install. Make sure you have added the cd-r's you > want to use using 'apt-cdrom'. > Be advised that there are not as many options in Sarge's tasksel as there were in Woody's. Also, if you want only Gnome, do apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment instead. -- Regards, Dave signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
On Thursday 02 June 2005 07:06 am, Redefined Horizons wrote: > I'm a Debian and Linux noobie, so go easy one me > > I successfully installed Debian Woody from CD. (I don't yet have an > internet connection on my Linux box.) > > I downloaded all 14 CDs for Debain Sarge, and successfully made it > through that install process. > > However, I don't remember being prompted for the "tasksel" step > during the Sarge install like I was during the Woody install. With > Woody, X-Server and Gnome were installed automatically, after I > selected them in the "tasksel" step. But I have neither one with my > Sarge install. > > Can I run "tasksel" from the command line after I have finished the > install on Sarge? Or do I need to try and install X-Server and Gnome > using apt? > > How do I access the "tasksel" step during the Sarge installation? You can run 'tasksel' from the command line. If it is not there you don't have a complete install. Make sure you have added the cd-r's you want to use using 'apt-cdrom'. -- Greg C. Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
I didn't meet tasksel as well, but you'd be better off using apt-get combined with aptitude (cli) or synaptic (gui).On 6/2/05, Redefined Horizons < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm a Debian and Linux noobie, so go easy one me I successfully installed Debian Woody from CD. (I don't yet have aninternet connection on my Linux box.)I downloaded all 14 CDs for Debain Sarge, and successfully made itthrough that install process. However, I don't remember being prompted for the "tasksel" step duringthe Sarge install like I was during the Woody install. With Woody,X-Server and Gnome were installed automatically, after I selected them in the "tasksel" step. But I have neither one with my Sarge install.Can I run "tasksel" from the command line after I have finished theinstall on Sarge? Or do I need to try and install X-Server and Gnome using apt?How do I access the "tasksel" step during the Sarge installation?Thanks for the help.The Sunburned Surveyor-- With best wishes! Shidai
Debian Sarge - What happened to tasksel?
I'm a Debian and Linux noobie, so go easy one me I successfully installed Debian Woody from CD. (I don't yet have an internet connection on my Linux box.) I downloaded all 14 CDs for Debain Sarge, and successfully made it through that install process. However, I don't remember being prompted for the "tasksel" step during the Sarge install like I was during the Woody install. With Woody, X-Server and Gnome were installed automatically, after I selected them in the "tasksel" step. But I have neither one with my Sarge install. Can I run "tasksel" from the command line after I have finished the install on Sarge? Or do I need to try and install X-Server and Gnome using apt? How do I access the "tasksel" step during the Sarge installation? Thanks for the help. The Sunburned Surveyor
Re: Tasksel not supporting Desktop selection
Pradeeper wrote: > I install a Sarge box using 1st CD. After that I edit my > /etc/apt/source.list to reflect my closest Debian mirror and did apt-get > update and upgrade without any problem. > > I wanted a Debian desktop and I ran tasksel and found out there's no > selection for "Debian Desktop" which was there last time. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg09288.html > What is the minimal package list for have a GNOME and KDE? apt-get install kde gnome Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tasksel not supporting Desktop selection
Hi All I install a Sarge box using 1st CD. After that I edit my /etc/apt/source.list to reflect my closest Debian mirror and did apt-get update and upgrade without any problem. I wanted a Debian desktop and I ran tasksel and found out there's no selection for "Debian Desktop" which was there last time. I did, apt-get install desktop-base But it only install Xfree86 and some other packages and not KDE or GNOME which I want. What is the minimal package list for have a GNOME and KDE? Thanks! Pradeeper -- Debian GNU/Linux Sarge kernel 2.4.22-openmosix-1 Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel problem with Sarge netinstall RC1
Joey Hess wrote: meta-kde has been removed from testing; the desktop task won't be available until it goes in again. When does the freeze start? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel problem with Sarge netinstall RC1
Don Jackson wrote: > On Tuesday 31 August 2004 01:31 pm, Magnus Ekhall wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I tried to install Sarge from a netinstall CD, but I run into trouble when > > I get to tasksel. > > > > There is no option to select "Desktop environment" or "x server". > > There are only options to install web server, file server and so on. > > > > I'm using ftp.se.debian.org and security.debian.org as my sources... > > > > What's the problem here? > > > > Thanks, > > Magnus > > I ran into exactly the same problem yesterday doing an install from the > netinstall CD. This is about my 4th install on several machines and previous > ones (done a week or more ago) **did** offer the Desktop option. It is > totally missing on the install from the same CD yesterday. meta-kde has been removed from testing; the desktop task won't be available until it goes in again. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tasksel problem with Sarge netinstall RC1
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 01:31 pm, Magnus Ekhall wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to install Sarge from a netinstall CD, but I run into trouble when > I get to tasksel. > > There is no option to select "Desktop environment" or "x server". > There are only options to install web server, file server and so on. > > I'm using ftp.se.debian.org and security.debian.org as my sources... > > What's the problem here? > > Thanks, > Magnus I ran into exactly the same problem yesterday doing an install from the netinstall CD. This is about my 4th install on several machines and previous ones (done a week or more ago) **did** offer the Desktop option. It is totally missing on the install from the same CD yesterday. Don -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tasksel problem with Sarge netinstall RC1
Hi, I tried to install Sarge from a netinstall CD, but I run into trouble when I get to tasksel. There is no option to select "Desktop environment" or "x server". There are only options to install web server, file server and so on. I'm using ftp.se.debian.org and security.debian.org as my sources... What's the problem here? Thanks, Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 15:31:16 -0400 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith O'Connell wrote: > > Where can I find out what files comprised; > > > > lsb > > The lsb package. > > > unix server > > Too ill-defined to really be useful, but FWIW, it comprised these > packages: > > ssh > telnetd > talk > talkd > ytalk > finger > fingerd > ftpd > zsh > tcsh > pdksh > screen > telnet > netcat > traceroute > mtr > man-db > manpages > emacs21 > vim > nethack-console > bsdgames > w3m > sudo > > > c and c++ > > I suspect that most of us doing development in C should have no trouble > installing individual packages as the need arrises. FWIW, the list was this: > > gcc > cpp > g++ > make > binutils > flex > bison > gettext > glibc-doc > manpages-dev > stl-manual > autoconf > automake1.7 > autoproject > libtool > indent > cutils > liwc > cflow > patch > cvs > strace > ltrace > gdb > nowebm > c2man > cxref > subversion > > > python > > The content of this package was essentially random and useless. Install > python, python-doc, python-dev and add whatever pyton modules you like to work > with and you'll do much better. > > > java > > Again I suspect a java developer would rather pick his own tools, but: > > gcj > java-common > java2html > libservlet2.2-java > kaffe > vide > motor Thank you - I am happy now Keith -- _ Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 08:04:48PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:22:54 +0100, Keith O'Connell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What a strange answer that was. I really don't care how tasksel > > works. I have no idea if a bug exists. I was asking if the lists > > that used to make up the tasksel groups exist as lists anywhere. > > > > I'm sure you were trying to be helpful. Nevermind, its the thought > > that counts! Keith: I just found this quoted post. For all practical purposes, let's fire up aptitude and go look under "Tasks", then you press return few times, voila :) You can see it calculated just for you and selectively choose them. Woody had many tasks but, as I see, sarge has much less tasks. Osamu > -- > Jon Dowland > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
Keith O'Connell wrote: > Where can I find out what files comprised; > > lsb The lsb package. > unix server Too ill-defined to really be useful, but FWIW, it comprised these packages: ssh telnetd talk talkd ytalk finger fingerd ftpd zsh tcsh pdksh screen telnet netcat traceroute mtr man-db manpages emacs21 vim nethack-console bsdgames w3m sudo > c and c++ I suspect that most of us doing development in C should have no trouble installing individual packages as the need arrises. FWIW, the list was this: gcc cpp g++ make binutils flex bison gettext glibc-doc manpages-dev stl-manual autoconf automake1.7 autoproject libtool indent cutils liwc cflow patch cvs strace ltrace gdb nowebm c2man cxref subversion > python The content of this package was essentially random and useless. Install python, python-doc, python-dev and add whatever pyton modules you like to work with and you'll do much better. > java Again I suspect a java developer would rather pick his own tools, but: gcj java-common java2html libservlet2.2-java kaffe vide motor -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:22:54 +0100, Keith O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a strange answer that was. I really don't care how tasksel works. I have no > idea if a bug exists. I was asking if the lists that used to make up the tasksel > groups exist as lists anywhere. > > I'm sure you were trying to be helpful. Nevermind, its the thought that counts! If tasksel's behaviour has changed and you think the new version is inferior, that is a wishlist bug at worst. -- Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
John, On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 09:13:04 +0800 John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you don't like the way tasksel works, file a bug report with > reportbug. It's not difficult, and one of the better ways to get > problems fixed. What a strange answer that was. I really don't care how tasksel works. I have no idea if a bug exists. I was asking if the lists that used to make up the tasksel groups exist as lists anywhere. I'm sure you were trying to be helpful. Nevermind, its the thought that counts! Keith -- _ Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was....
Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I am running testing and last week I wiped down a machine and started again. I normally use some of the tasksel groups to save time in picking files I will want. I now find that since the last time I used it it has changed drastically. There are less groups and no way to see what is in a group anymore. Well, I guess I'll have to live with that, but is it recorded any where what was in the now defunct groups. I am sure I overlook files and then I know I will need them, and the network will be down etc, etc. Where can I find out what files comprised; lsb unix server c and c++ python java Then I'll just list them and install them individually from now on Keith If you don't like the way tasksel works, file a bug report with reportbug. It's not difficult, and one of the better ways to get problems fixed. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was.... SOT question
Paul E Condon wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:36:15PM +0100, Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I am running testing and last week I wiped down a machine and started again. I normally use some of the tasksel groups to save time in picking files I will want. I now find that since the last time I used it it has changed drastically. There are less groups and no way to see what is in a group anymore. Well, I guess I'll have to live with that, but is it recorded any where what was in the now defunct groups. I am sure I overlook files and then I know I will need them, and the network will be down etc, etc. Where can I find out what files comprised; lsb unix server c and c++ python java Slightly off topic question: Why does tasksel still exist? Wouldn't be just as effective, and less effort to create virtual packages for each of the collections of software that tasksel installs? Be gentle in telling me why not. Its just a question. Perhaps your idea can be regarded as an implementation detail of what tasksel does (or should do). Virtual packages are no use unless the naive user can find and choose amongst them. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel is not what it was.... SOT question
On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:36:15PM +0100, Keith O'Connell wrote: > Hi, > > I am running testing and last week I wiped down a machine and > started again. I normally use some of the tasksel groups to > save time in picking files I will want. I now find that since > the last time I used it it has changed drastically. > > There are less groups and no way to see what is in a group > anymore. Well, I guess I'll have to live with that, but is it > recorded any where what was in the now defunct groups. I am > sure I overlook files and then I know I will need them, and > the network will be down etc, etc. > > Where can I find out what files comprised; > > lsb > unix server > c and c++ > python > java > Slightly off topic question: Why does tasksel still exist? Wouldn't be just as effective, and less effort to create virtual packages for each of the collections of software that tasksel installs? Be gentle in telling me why not. Its just a question. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tasksel is not what it was....
Hi, I am running testing and last week I wiped down a machine and started again. I normally use some of the tasksel groups to save time in picking files I will want. I now find that since the last time I used it it has changed drastically. There are less groups and no way to see what is in a group anymore. Well, I guess I'll have to live with that, but is it recorded any where what was in the now defunct groups. I am sure I overlook files and then I know I will need them, and the network will be down etc, etc. Where can I find out what files comprised; lsb unix server c and c++ python java Then I'll just list them and install them individually from now on Keith -- _ Keith O'Connell. Maidstone, Kent. (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tasksel won't recognise second CD
You could try mounting it manually on the second virtual console when the installation program asks for a second CD. Then switch back to the installation program on the first console and resume with the installation. This worked for me. Jaka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tasksel won't recognise second CD
Hi, If the following is familiar to you, I apologise for boring you but I'm reposting in plain text- thanks, Petter. I'm trying to install Sarge on an i-x86 box and everything is fine until I'm asked for the second CD. The CD isn't recognised, and the prompt to insert second disk simply reappears. The CD was Jigdo-d and burned on my Windoes box as a bootable image and appears to be OK and indeed disk one worked just fine. The disk is mountable and readable (I can see all the files on it) and the base install worked fine, but interestingly none of the MD-5 sums seem to check out as good. Is there a config file somewhere that apt-get (or is it tasksel) looks at to find the cd? Maybe it's looking in the wrong place? I realise maybe my disks aren't burned quite right, but I'd have thought that tasksel wouldn't have been quite so put off by that, or at least would have thrown up an informative error. Or maybe it has, but it's logged in a file I don't know about yet. I've RTFM but being a newbie, maybe I RT wrong FM, who knows. Any ideas gratefully received. Rich. P.S. my primary aim here as a would-like-to-be-ex-Windoes user is to get a GUI such as KDE up and running. It's been about 15 years since I worked from the command line and I feel a bit like a fish out of water. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tasksel won't recognise second CD
Hi, If the following is familiar to you, I apologise for boring you but I'm reposting in plain text- thanks, Petter. I'm trying to install Sarge on an i-x86 box and everything is fine until I'm asked for the second CD. The CD isn't recognised, and the prompt to insert second disk simply reappears. The CD was Jigdo-d and burned on my Windoes box as a bootable image and appears to be OK and indeed disk one worked just fine. The disk is mountable and readable (I can see all the files on it) and the base install worked fine, but interestingly none of the MD-5 sums seem to check out as good. Is there a config file somewhere that apt-get (or is it tasksel) looks at to find the cd? Maybe it's looking in the wrong place? I realise maybe my disks aren't burned quite right, but I'd have thought that tasksel wouldn't have been quite so put off by that, or at least would have thrown up an informative error. Or maybe it has, but it's logged in a file I don't know about yet. I've RTFM but being a newbie, maybe I RT wrong FM, who knows. Any ideas gratefully received. Rich. P.S. my primary aim here as a would-like-to-be-ex-Windoes user is to get a GUI such as KDE up and running. It's been about 15 years since I worked from the command line and I feel a bit like a fish out of water. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:30:26 -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server >> (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other >> machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the >> server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on >> the server. > > That sounds backwards and confusing. An X server talks to the > keyboard and display on the machine it's running on; an X client runs > on some machine and has its display on some X server not necessarily > on the same machine. xterm is an X client, for example. So a server > (sitting in a rack) probably wouldn't have an X server, but it might > have client programs installed that people could log in and run > remotely. A window manager happens to be a special case of an X > client, and it's possible to run it remotely, but it's rarely what you > actually want. :-) Desktop environments like GNOME and KDE in my > experience tend to be happiest if they're running on the same machine > that the X server is on. My apologies, I wrote it ass backwards without thinking. It's not my area of expertise and I screwed it up. I withdraw my post (wish I could delete it) and tanks for the much more rational explanation which had me slapping my head when I read it. I'm now going to put my head up a horse's ass. -- paul It's working as coded. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server > (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other > machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the > server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on > the server. That sounds backwards and confusing. An X server talks to the keyboard and display on the machine it's running on; an X client runs on some machine and has its display on some X server not necessarily on the same machine. xterm is an X client, for example. So a server (sitting in a rack) probably wouldn't have an X server, but it might have client programs installed that people could log in and run remotely. A window manager happens to be a special case of an X client, and it's possible to run it remotely, but it's rarely what you actually want. :-) Desktop environments like GNOME and KDE in my experience tend to be happiest if they're running on the same machine that the X server is on. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:21:02 -0600, J N wrote: > When installing woody, after getting to the tasksel screen, I noticed > that choosing "XWindowServer" option by itself did not resolve enough > dependencies to be able to run the server. I also tried apt-get install > kdm, suspecting that I just needed to choose a window manager, however, > kdm wouldn't resolve either. > > My (rather blunt) solution to the problem was to choose the "desktop" > option in tasksel as well -- that appears to resolve whatever > dependencies need resolving. I know just (not) enough about > XWindowServer theory to suspect that this may be by design -- that I > need to make some sort of 'choice' about my environment that is made by > selecting the "desktop" option. > > Does anyone know why this is, or if it is just specific to laptops, or > if it is just that something failed that should have worked? > > I'm interested in theory. I don't have the specific error messages on > hand (to get them, I would need to do a fair amount of work) -- but I'm > learning how to compile kernels, and the process has resulting in > needing to reinstall debian woody about 6 times so far... (yes, I'm > doing things terribly wrong and I'm aware of it)... I figure > reinstallation will go faster if I don't install all of XWindowsServer > and the desktop each time... > > Thanks! > > -Jason. If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on the server. As you evidently wish to run both server and client, then you need the desktop setup. A window manager is part of the client, not the server. BTW, startx starts a client X session. Try man startx, man Xserver, man XFree86, etc. This is necessarily very brief and incomplete, but I hope it gives you the picture. -- paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
When installing woody, after getting to the tasksel screen, I noticed that choosing "XWindowServer" option by itself did not resolve enough dependencies to be able to run the server. I also tried apt-get install kdm, suspecting that I just needed to choose a window manager, however, kdm wouldn't resolve either. My (rather blunt) solution to the problem was to choose the "desktop" option in tasksel as well -- that appears to resolve whatever dependencies need resolving. I know just (not) enough about XWindowServer theory to suspect that this may be by design -- that I need to make some sort of 'choice' about my environment that is made by selecting the "desktop" option. Does anyone know why this is, or if it is just specific to laptops, or if it is just that something failed that should have worked? I'm interested in theory. I don't have the specific error messages on hand (to get them, I would need to do a fair amount of work) -- but I'm learning how to compile kernels, and the process has resulting in needing to reinstall debian woody about 6 times so far... (yes, I'm doing things terribly wrong and I'm aware of it)... I figure reinstallation will go faster if I don't install all of XWindowsServer and the desktop each time... Thanks! -Jason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 04:11, Uwe Dippel wrote: > On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:50:43 +0800, Rob Weir wrote: > > > This is when you should head off to http://bugs.debian.org/ and see if > > the bug is already reported. If not, file it yourself. > > Thanks. I did. The answer came a day later: > > > The absence of a package from testing is not a bug. > > I'm a newbie in Debian (sorry) and I understood the FAQ w.r.t. Testing somewhat > different. If you cannot install e.g. Evolution, this is not a bug ? > Maybe someone can enlighten me .. Thanks. Evolution 1.4.5, in both testing and unstable, is is built against Gnome 2.4.1. As far as I can tell, testing is still at Gnome 2.2.2. Thus, you are right, you can not install Evo if you want to stay purely at testing. I'm sure this will be changing soon. $ apt-cache policy evolution evolution: Installed: 1.4.5-3 Candidate: 1.4.5-3 Version Table: *** 1.4.5-3 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1.0.5-1 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy gnome gnome: Installed: 36 Candidate: 36 Version Table: *** 36 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status $ apt-cache policy gnome-terminal gnome-terminal: Installed: 2.4.1-3 Candidate: 2.4.1-3 Version Table: *** 2.4.1-3 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.2.2-4 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Fair is where you take your cows to be judged." Unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:50:43 +0800, Rob Weir wrote: > This is when you should head off to http://bugs.debian.org/ and see if > the bug is already reported. If not, file it yourself. Thanks. I did. The answer came a day later: > The absence of a package from testing is not a bug. I'm a newbie in Debian (sorry) and I understood the FAQ w.r.t. Testing somewhat different. If you cannot install e.g. Evolution, this is not a bug ? Maybe someone can enlighten me .. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:50:43 +0800, Rob Weir wrote: > This is when you should head off to http://bugs.debian.org/ and see if > the bug is already reported. If not, file it yourself. Thanks. I did. The answer came a day later: > The absence of a package from testing is not a bug. I'm a newbie in Debian (sorry) and I understood the FAQ w.r.t. Testing somewhat different. If you cannot install e.g. Evolution, this is not a bug ? Maybe someone can enlighten me .. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:50:43 +0800, Rob Weir wrote: > This is when you should head off to http://bugs.debian.org/ and see if > the bug is already reported. If not, file it yourself. Thanks. I did. The answer came a day later: > The absence of a package from testing is not a bug. I'm a newbie in Debian (sorry) and I understood the FAQ w.r.t. Testing somewhat different. If you cannot install e.g. Evolution, this is not a bug ? Maybe someone can enlighten me .. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 09:12:17PM +0800, Uwe Dippel said > Plain upgrade von Woody to something more stable than unstable using > apt-get dist-upgrade went smoothly, but left me without much on the > desktop. So I issued another > > # apt-get update > # apt-get upgrade > #tasksel > > resulted in: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: This is when you should head off to http://bugs.debian.org/ and see if the bug is already reported. If not, file it yourself. > evolution: Depends: libgnome-pilot1 (>= 0.1.63) but it is not installable Can't see a bug like this, you should report it if you can't find it. > kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or > kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable Known problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=212933 -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: illuminati Forte passwd bemd SWAT South Africa MILSATCOM MD2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tasksel on testing - unmet dependencies for Desktop
Plain upgrade von Woody to something more stable than unstable using apt-get dist-upgrade went smoothly, but left me without much on the desktop. So I issued another # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade #tasksel resulted in: The following packages have unmet dependencies: evolution: Depends: libgnome-pilot1 (>= 0.1.63) but it is not installable kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable So I tried one by one: # apt-get install libgnome-pilot1 Package libgnome-pilot1 has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list # apt-get install kdebase-audiolibs Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. # apt-get install kdebase3-audiolibs Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list I tried with another mirror, same result. What is my fault ?? Uwe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 10:49, Ravi Gehlot wrote: > I've been trying to get tasksel to work after a fresh installation but it > doesn't work, instead I get a question like "have you upgraded packages" ? > What is going on? > Just run: base-config. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Your presence reminds one of a blind jackal, eternally dependent upon misguided archbishops to provide instruction in bowling. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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I've been trying to get tasksel to work after a fresh installation but it doesn't work, instead I get a question like "have you upgraded packages" ? What is going on? --- Ravi Gehlot Computer Science Student University of Central Florida Orlando - Florida - United States [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ravigehlot.net --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:29, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > You're trying to run tasksel under those conditions? > > yep...? Is that a leading question!? Since you're installing, you might be a newbie (like me - at Debian, anyway). I've been doing ad-hoc tech support for my Dad for years, and his most common problem report is "it didn't do it". Then I have to wheedle the details that he doesn't have words for out of him to be of any help, usually over the trans-pacific phone lines. So I've developed a habit of assuming nothing. My apologies if I've misunderstood your situation. > --- > deb cdrom:[Debian Disk 2^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M]/ pool/ > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20021218)]/ > unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main > > deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main > deb-src http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main > deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main > --- The "^M" stuff looks like DOS/unix file translation issues. The rest of the file looks ok to me. We're getting past what I do know about. I have a suggestion: Run "apt-get update", then "apt-get dist-upgrade" to deal with any mixed dependency issues brought on by installing from CD and net. "man apt-get" says "dist-upgrade" has some extra intelligence about resolving dependency issues. Probably someone reading this who knows more than me will jump in and tell me that's useless, but at least I don't think it can do any harm. Cheers, Bret -- bwaldow at alum.mit.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 12:26, Shawn Lamson wrote: > On Sun, June 29 at 12:26 PM EDT > Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > I get a heap of > > Depends: but it is not going to be installed > > and then finally > > E: Sorry, broken packages > > for anything I try through tasksel. > > > > I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've > > got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui! > > Cool I am totally jealous of your hardware. Thanks, it was a long awaited upgrade for my celeron 300 :) > Try > #apt-get -s install xserver-xfree86 This is what happened: # apt-get -s install xserver-xfree86 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xfree86: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.1.0-10) but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages So I delete the 'cdrom' entries in sources.list and it seems to work ok. But obviously I have to download everything if I do this. This made me think there was something wrong with my sources.list file, but I created it with apt-setup... Thanks for your help, -- Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 02:21, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > Depends: but it is not going to be installed and then finally
> > E: Sorry, broken packages
> > for anything I try through tasksel.
>
> That looks like a broken /etc/apt/sources.list file. Which may have
> happened if you edited the file and made a typo or possibly if you had
> a problem with the web proxy section. Check /etc/apt/* for anything
> which looks suspicious.
All thats in /etc/apt is apt.conf.d/70debconf and sources.list.
70debconf contains:
// Pre-configure all packages with debconf before they are installed.
// If you don't like it, comment it out.
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";};
> > I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've
> > got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui!
>
> In the US?
No, Australia, and the locations in sources.list all come from
apt-setup.
> Here is a US centric example /etc/apt/sources.list file
> for Debian stable with security updates.
[snip]
> I actually don't use tasksel any more myself. I just install the
> packages I want. Here is a hint which might be of use to you. Run
> 'tasksel -t' which does not actually run the command but just prints
> out the apt-get command that it would have run without the -t option.
I tried that just for X window system:
# tasksel -t
apt-get install x-window-system
and then I tried running that apt-get command but I get another
dependancy error. I was kinda hoping it would download and install deps
as needed. If I try and solve them myself by adding more packages to
apt-get install, I just run into cyclic version problems...
Thanks,
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re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 22:36, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 22:56, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > Hi all, [snip] > Tell me if I read this right, or what's different: > > You're installing Debian from scratch, no pre-existing files. yep > You've completed the initial install, and can boot to, and log in to a > console. yep > You're trying to run tasksel under those conditions? yep...? Is that a leading question!? > Did you try to use tasksel to install X Windows during the initial > install (the first time tasksel was presented)? yep, this is where I first got the errors > Did you also select > "Desktop" from tasksel? yep > Have you run any install program besides tasksel (apt-get, or aptitude)? I tried apt-get, but didn't install anything. I also had a look at dselect, but again, I didn't install anything. > What does your /etc/apt/sources.list file contain? Unfortunately, I can't get the exact contents while I'm at work. From memory I had two cdrom entries first, then some au mirrors, then a debian security site. The install set all these up for me. >From another attempt at work, where I get the same results, this is what my sources.list file contains: (I'm sure the original one didn't have all those ^M's) --- deb cdrom:[Debian Disk 2^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M^M]/ pool/ deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20021218)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main deb-src http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ stable main deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main --- The results I get from running tasksel and selecting X window system are: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: x-window-system: Depends: x-window-system-core but it is not going to be installed Depends: lbxproxy but it is not going to be installed Depends: proxymngr but it is not going to be installed Depends: twm but it is not going to be installed Depends: xdm but it is not going to be installed Depends: xfwp but it is not going to be installed Depends: xnest but it is not going to be installed Depends: xterm but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Thanks for your help, -- Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel, first time with debian
Iain Buchanan wrote: > Depends: but it is not going to be installed and then finally > E: Sorry, broken packages > for anything I try through tasksel. That looks like a broken /etc/apt/sources.list file. Which may have happened if you edited the file and made a typo or possibly if you had a problem with the web proxy section. Check /etc/apt/* for anything which looks suspicious. > I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've > got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui! In the US? Here is a US centric example /etc/apt/sources.list file for Debian stable with security updates. Otherwise select a mirror which would be closer to you. Using these you should be able to get all of the dependencies that you need and install anything you wish from tasksel. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main > Any help on how to get past this would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if > I haven't posted enough info, or wrong list. This is a good list for your question. I actually don't use tasksel any more myself. I just install the packages I want. Here is a hint which might be of use to you. Run 'tasksel -t' which does not actually run the command but just prints out the apt-get command that it would have run without the -t option. You can run it as a normal user. For just printing out the command it does not need root. I started out doing that since 'cxref' has an ordering problem and creates an error if it is installed with everything else. If you still see the that problem just restart the command and run it again and the dependencies for cxref will be worked out the second time. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 22:56, Iain Buchanan wrote: > Hi all, > I'm having some trouble getting tasksel to install packages past the > base system. I'm not new to linux, (bsd, redhat) but I'm new to > debian. I'm assuming the problem is not with taskel itself, but rather > with some dependencies or broken packages, but I don't know quite how to > interpret the error messages. > > I get a heap of > Depends: but it is not going to be installed > and then finally > E: Sorry, broken packages > for anything I try through tasksel. > > I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've > got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui! Tell me if I read this right, or what's different: You're installing Debian from scratch, no pre-existing files. You've completed the initial install, and can boot to, and log in to a console. You're trying to run tasksel under those conditions? Did you try to use tasksel to install X Windows during the initial install (the first time tasksel was presented)? Did you also select "Desktop" from tasksel? Have you run any install program besides tasksel (apt-get, or aptitude)? What does your /etc/apt/sources.list file contain? Cheers, Bret -- bwaldow at alum.mit.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tasksel, first time with debian
On Sun, June 29 at 12:26 PM EDT Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I'm having some trouble getting tasksel to install packages past the > base system. I'm not new to linux, (bsd, redhat) but I'm new to > debian. I'm assuming the problem is not with taskel itself, but > rather with some dependencies or broken packages, but I don't know > quite how to interpret the error messages. > > I get a heap of > Depends: but it is not going to be installed > and then finally > E: Sorry, broken packages > for anything I try through tasksel. > > I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've > got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui! Cool I am totally jealous of your hardware. Try #apt-get -s install xserver-xfree86 to simulate an install of that package. It will show you any dependent packages it wants to download. If it looks good run the same command w/o the -s (simulate). You can also do #apt-cache show xserver and look at the available packages in case one other more suits your video card. When you install it debconf will ask you for options, hope you have your monitor and vid card specs handy if you want it exact. > > Any help on how to get past this would be greatly appreciated. Sorry > if I haven't posted enough info, or wrong list. I don't know of a better list. Shawn > TIA, > Iain > > > Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: tasksel, first time with debian
Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting tasksel to install packages past the base system. I'm not new to linux, (bsd, redhat) but I'm new to debian. I'm assuming the problem is not with taskel itself, but rather with some dependencies or broken packages, but I don't know quite how to interpret the error messages. I get a heap of Depends: but it is not going to be installed and then finally E: Sorry, broken packages for anything I try through tasksel. I'm using 3.0r1 on and athlon XP 2000+ with pretty standard hw. I've got to the shell, and got the network going, but I can't get a gui! Any help on how to get past this would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if I haven't posted enough info, or wrong list. TIA, Iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
