Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-08 Thread thveillon.debian
Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On 10/7/09, thveillon.debian  wrote:
>>  It also makes the (careful) reading of "apt-listbugs" and
>>  "apt-listchanges" output easier.
>>
> Nice packages, worth being suggested for aptitude or synaptic.

They work just fine with aptitude, that's what I'm using. I don't know
much synaptic but it's just a front-end to apt, I remember there's a
console-like display mode which shows what's done, it should work for
"apt-listbugs". You can get "apt-listchanges" mails in your local mail
account, and read it afterward.

> Otherwise, thank you all for the input. I will probably settle for
> weekly system updates.
> Liviu
> 

Have fun.

Tom


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Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/7/09, thveillon.debian  wrote:
>  It also makes the (careful) reading of "apt-listbugs" and
>  "apt-listchanges" output easier.
>
Nice packages, worth being suggested for aptitude or synaptic.

Otherwise, thank you all for the input. I will probably settle for
weekly system updates.
Liviu


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Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-08 Thread Christopher Judd
On Wednesday 07 October 2009, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> Dear all
> How often do you update your testing? I noticed that leaving your
> system as is for couple of weeks and about 200 packages would be
> available for updates. I would like to know what would be the
> "optimal" updating frequency that would minimise breakages. In the
> Gentoo world, it was often suggested not to leave your system
> out-of-date for too long.
> Thank you
> Liviu
> 

Hi,

I run a cron job that does an aptitude update and downloads the packages
daily, and then run aptitude full-upgrade manually at least once a week.
If there are numerous dependency problems, or aptitude wants to remove a 
package that I need, I'll forego the upgrade until I've investigated the 
problem.  I prefer to do an upgrade before there are a large number of 
packages to be upgraded, since it's easier to track down problems.

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Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-08 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Liviu Andronic wrote:
> How often do you update your testing? 

As always in such situation: YMMV.

I'm sure that you are not running testing on a production server,
permanently exposed to the threats of intruders, but also your desktop
needs security updates, as they become available.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather update too frequently than not
frequently enough. As others have said once per day or a few times per
week should normally be ok. It does not hurt to subscribe to the
debian-security-announce list.

Cheers,
Johannes


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Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-08 Thread go...@dobosevic.com

Liviu Andronic wrote:

Dear all
How often do you update your testing? I noticed that leaving your
system as is for couple of weeks and about 200 packages would be
available for updates. I would like to know what would be the
"optimal" updating frequency that would minimise breakages. In the
Gentoo world, it was often suggested not to leave your system
out-of-date for too long.
Thank you
Liviu


Hi,
almost everyday on desktop, about one's a week on my netbook (only 
because I don't use him so often) and something between for my virtual 
boxes (they are just for experimenting and fun).


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Re: testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-07 Thread thveillon.debian
Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Dear all
> How often do you update your testing? I noticed that leaving your
> system as is for couple of weeks and about 200 packages would be
> available for updates. I would like to know what would be the
> "optimal" updating frequency that would minimise breakages. In the
> Gentoo world, it was often suggested not to leave your system
> out-of-date for too long.
> Thank you
> Liviu
> 
> 
Hi, I guess there will be as many different answers as testing users on
the list, but for me it's (nearly) daily on my desktop, at least once a
week on my laptop. I prefer to deal with one breakage at a time rather
than throwing 200 packages in one shot, and then wonder why this or that
is misbehaving (not saying that it happens often, but it does happen).
It also makes the (careful) reading of "apt-listbugs" and
"apt-listchanges" output easier.
On the other hand hitting the mirrors more often may not be to their
benefit...

Tom


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testing system updates: how often?

2009-10-07 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all
How often do you update your testing? I noticed that leaving your
system as is for couple of weeks and about 200 packages would be
available for updates. I would like to know what would be the
"optimal" updating frequency that would minimise breakages. In the
Gentoo world, it was often suggested not to leave your system
out-of-date for too long.
Thank you
Liviu





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