Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Greg Donoghue 
> > > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
> >
> > I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> > with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> > barrier of the end of the URL.

Have you tried, while in lynx, pressing "," or "."  ?
The first, "," presents a menu to use an external program on the
rendered web page.
The second, "." presents a menu to use an external program on the
highlighted link.
No copy/paste is required.
These functions can be edited in your lynx.cfg

hth


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Jude DaShiell 
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012, Randy Kramer wrote:

> On Sunday 04 March 2012 10:31:41 am Lisi wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> > > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
> >
> > I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> > with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> > barrier of the end of the URL.
> 
> Thanks, but I can't seem to get that to work.
> 
> And, apparently I mispoke / mistyped--I've apparently been using the left 
> mouse button to attempt to copy the URL at the bottom of the screen all 
> along, not the middle mouse button.
> 
> Randy Kramer
> 
> 
> 
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Try opening up the url with lynx first.  next hit the "=" key and you'll 
bring up a display of information about the page.  Near the bottom of that 
display will be your url.  There will be two url: entries on that page, 
you want the second one of them.


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Randy Kramer 
On Sunday 04 March 2012 10:31:41 am Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
>
> I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> barrier of the end of the URL.

Thanks, but I can't seem to get that to work.

And, apparently I mispoke / mistyped--I've apparently been using the left 
mouse button to attempt to copy the URL at the bottom of the screen all 
along, not the middle mouse button.

Randy Kramer




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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister 
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:51:17AM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:
> The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just 
> checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button 
> copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom 
> of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

Press the '=' key. 

Amongst some other (possibly useful) info is:
Under 'Link that you currently have selected'
Linkname: 
URL: 

Now you can easily copy just the text of the URL one line at a time.

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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Lisi 
On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button
> copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom
> of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link with 
the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the barrier of 
the end of the URL.

Lisi


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Randy Kramer 
Chris,

Thanks very much!  Another helpful idea.  One problem is noted below...

On Sunday 04 March 2012 05:45:22 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> Start lynx, press 'o'
> The options menu will appear.
> Press the 'down arrow' until you get to the 'User mode' option just
> under 'General Preferences'. (The novice option is probably displayed.)
> Press the 'Return key' and select the 'Advanced' option using the 'down
> arrow' key.
> Press 'Return' (Advanced should be displayed, instead of novice.)
>
> Now press the 'up arrow' until you get to the 'Save options to disk' check
> box. Press 'Return' (An 'X' will appear) then press the 'up arrow' until
> 'Accept Changes' is highlighted.
> Press 'Return'.
>
> You should now see the URL for a link displayed along the bottom of the
> screen.

The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just 
checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button 
copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom 
of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

Randy Kramer


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Bannister 
[Please, don't top post!]

On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 04:56:07PM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:

> I have lynx installed on my machine, and tried a quick look at it, but is not 
> immediately obvious how to get the URL for a link.

Start lynx, press 'o' 
The options menu will appear.
Press the 'down arrow' until you get to the 'User mode' option just
under 'General Preferences'. (The novice option is probably displayed.)
Press the 'Return key' and select the 'Advanced' option using the 'down
arrow' key.
Press 'Return' (Advanced should be displayed, instead of novice.)

Now press the 'up arrow' until you get to the 'Save options to disk' check box.
Press 'Return' (An 'X' will appear) then press the 'up arrow' until
'Accept Changes' is highlighted. 
Press 'Return'.

You should now see the URL for a link displayed along the bottom of the
screen.

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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Randy Kramer 
Mike,

Another excellent approach--thanks!

Unfortunately, I've now realized that lynx doesn't display some of the links 
that I'm interested in--I think because they may be generated by javascript 
(or java), so I now need to look for a text browser that runs those.  I 
understand edbrowse might be able to do that, so I'll look into that.

Randy Kramer

On Saturday 03 March 2012 07:09:56 pm you wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Randy Kramer  wrote:
> > Maybe it can be done readily in lynx and I just haven't spotted how to do
> > it?
>
> I have ~/.lynx/external to which I just added this line:
> EXTERNAL:http:echo %s | xsel -i:TRUE
>
>
> Then I can navigate to a link and hit the `.' key.  If there are more
> than one commands registered for a particular protocol (http in this
> case, which covers https), lynx will pop up a selection menu,
> otherwise it'll just run it.
>
> Though, in this case you could just as easily register something like:
> EXTERNAL:http:firefox -new-tab %s:TRUE
>
> Actually, looks like out of the box, lynx comes configured for running
> x-www-browser, so whatever you have for your default browser should
> kick in (but may not be what you want for new-tab, new-window,
> profile, etc.




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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Mike Castle 
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Randy Kramer  wrote:
>
> Maybe it can be done readily in lynx and I just haven't spotted how to do it?

I have ~/.lynx/external to which I just added this line:
EXTERNAL:http:echo %s | xsel -i:TRUE


Then I can navigate to a link and hit the `.' key.  If there are more
than one commands registered for a particular protocol (http in this
case, which covers https), lynx will pop up a selection menu,
otherwise it'll just run it.

Though, in this case you could just as easily register something like:
EXTERNAL:http:firefox -new-tab %s:TRUE

Actually, looks like out of the box, lynx comes configured for running
x-www-browser, so whatever you have for your default browser should
kick in (but may not be what you want for new-tab, new-window,
profile, etc.

mrc


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Solved: Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Randy Kramer 
Jasper,

Excellent--exactly what I needed!

Thank you very much!

Randy Kramer

On Saturday 03 March 2012 05:31:38 pm Jasper Noë wrote:
> In lynx you can make bookmarks with the 'a' button.
> Combine that with a bookmark in your graphical browser to
>
> ~/lynx_bookmarks.html
>
> That is all.
>
> --Jasper.



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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Walter Hurry 
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:56:07 -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:

> Hijacking this thread

Then don't. Start a new one, or better still, do a little research first.


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Jasper Noë 

In lynx you can make bookmarks with the 'a' button.
Combine that with a bookmark in your graphical browser to

~/lynx_bookmarks.html

That is all.

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OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

2012-03-03 Thread Randy Kramer 
Hijacking this thread thinking I might have a good audience for my question:

Is there a text based browser that makes it easy to copy a URL (with, e.g.,  
the middle mouse button) to paste it in another (graphical) browser?

I have lynx installed on my machine, and tried a quick look at it, but is not 
immediately obvious how to get the URL for a link.

Maybe it can be done readily in lynx and I just haven't spotted how to do it?

Background: Because some pages (for example, the yahoo home page (yahoo.com) 
make both Iceweasel and konqueror use a very high percentage of the CPU, I 
thought I might try to load pages like that in a text browser, then copy the 
URLs of any links that I want to follow into Iceweasel to view them with 
pictures and such.

Thanks!

Randy Kramer

On Wednesday 29 February 2012 12:17:44 pm Julien Claassen wrote:
>I have tried lynx, links, links2, elinks and w3m. I work with those
> exclusively. I still mostly stick by lynx, but that is just laziness, since
> it really doesn't do a few things.
>I have found, that from the above collection elinks is the best. It can
> be customised to meet almost all your needs. I don't get it to play
> youtube-videos (as audio) directly yet and I suppose, that might be out of
> the question.
>These browsers are all rather comfortable, once you get to know them and
> they all have a lot of similarities, which is good, as consistency always
> is. I have only heard about edbrowse, but I think it is really the best
> solution, if you think, you might encounter a lot of NECESSARY javascript.
> Necessary opposd to beautifying or slightly helpful javascript.


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Re: text browsers

2012-03-01 Thread Weaver 

> Hi Weaver!
>I have tried lynx, links, links2, elinks and w3m. I work with those
> exclusively. I still mostly stick by lynx, but that is just laziness,
> since it
> really doesn't do a few things.
>I have found, that from the above collection elinks is the best. It can
> be
> customised to meet almost all your needs. I don't get it to play
> youtube-videos (as audio) directly yet and I suppose, that might be out of
> the
> question.
>These browsers are all rather comfortable, once you get to know them
> and
> they all have a lot of similarities, which is good, as consistency always
> is.
> I have only heard about edbrowse, but I think it is really the best
> solution,
> if you think, you might encounter a lot of NECESSARY javascript. Necessary
> opposd to beautifying or slightly helpful javascript.
>Kind regards
>Julien

Thanks, Julien.
I appreciate it.

Weaver.

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Re: text browsers

2012-02-29 Thread Julien Claassen 

Hi Weaver!
  I have tried lynx, links, links2, elinks and w3m. I work with those 
exclusively. I still mostly stick by lynx, but that is just laziness, since it 
really doesn't do a few things.
  I have found, that from the above collection elinks is the best. It can be 
customised to meet almost all your needs. I don't get it to play 
youtube-videos (as audio) directly yet and I suppose, that might be out of the 
question.
  These browsers are all rather comfortable, once you get to know them and 
they all have a lot of similarities, which is good, as consistency always is. 
I have only heard about edbrowse, but I think it is really the best solution, 
if you think, you might encounter a lot of NECESSARY javascript. Necessary 
opposd to beautifying or slightly helpful javascript.

  Kind regards
  Julien

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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Weaver 

> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:11:59AM -0800, Weaver wrote:
>> I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
>> what's good?
>> 
>> re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
>> stable, etc,?
>
> Don't know about intuitive. There's more or less a learning curve in
> any of these, IMO. w3m gets my vote. Easily customized once you get
> the hang of it.

O.K., thanks all.

Usual story, load up all recommendations and try them out.

I appreciate your time.
Regards,

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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson 
On 27/02/12 21:11, Weaver wrote:
> Hello one and all.
> 
> I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
> what's good?
> Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
> is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.
> 
> I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.
> 
> re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
> stable, etc,?
> 
> Thanking you for any time and trouble.
> Regards,
> 
> Weaver.

If you want graphics - without x, try links2 - (patched[*1] or
hacked)[*2], or arachne[*3].
If it's just pure text, as opposed to a browser for a non-gui machine,
lynx is the best (IMHO).

[*3]I haven't used arachne in over a decade - but it was *very* good,
and I just noticed there is a Linux port. It doesn't support javascipt
or java (bonus?).

[*1]http://links.twibright.com/
[*2]http://xray.sai.msu.ru/~karpov/links-hacked/
[*3]http://www.glennmcc.org/aralinux/



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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Celejar 
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:32:29 +
Keith McKenzie  wrote:

> On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:
> > Hello one and all.
> >
> > I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
> > what's good?
> > Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
> > is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.
> >
> > I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.
> >
> > re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
> > stable, etc,?
> >
> > Thanking you for any time and trouble.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Weaver.
> >
> You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.
> 
> I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links', & 'elinks'; I 
> didn't get on with any of them.
> 
> The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript & flash, 
> etc. They don't conform to www standards.

Yes - Javascript in particular can be a real problem.

Celejar


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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread SM 
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:11:59AM -0800, Weaver wrote:
> I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
> what's good?
> 
> re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
> stable, etc,?

Don't know about intuitive. There's more or less a learning curve in
any of these, IMO. w3m gets my vote. Easily customized once you get
the hang of it.

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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Jude DaShiell 
There is a learning curve to edbrowse, but it does do javascript if the 
latest version is used.  In that package is a setup-ebrc script that has 
to be run by a user not root once package installation is complete and the 
script needs to be in the user's directory when run.  The support group 
for edbrowse is commandline-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and it's usually 
pretty low volume.  Unfortunately with edbrowse debian version one of its 
real dependencies isn't downloaded along with the package but that's on 
the package maintainers.  You won't need the dependency until you run into 
javascript and /usr/share/edbrowse-3.xx has a good readme file in it.On 
Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Keith McKenzie wrote:

> On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:
> > Hello one and all.
> >
> > I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
> > what's good?
> > Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
> > is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.
> >
> > I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.
> >
> > re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
> > stable, etc,?
> >
> > Thanking you for any time and trouble.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Weaver.
> >
> You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.
> 
> I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links', & 'elinks'; I didn't
> get on with any of them.
> 
> The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript & flash, etc. They
> don't conform to www standards.
> 
> 
> 


Jude 
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Re: text browsers

2012-02-27 Thread Keith McKenzie 

On 27/02/12 10:11, Weaver wrote:

Hello one and all.

I'm seting up a gui-less system and was wondering about text browsers -
what's good?
Anything to avoid, that is behind in development, not being maintained or
is obviously behind the others in some respect or other.

I don't want to start a flame war.seriously.

re there any that are head and shoulders above the rest, more intuitive,
stable, etc,?

Thanking you for any time and trouble.
Regards,

Weaver.
   

You'll have to work at understanding how to browse with them.

I don't 'recommend', but I have tried 'lynx', 'links', & 'elinks'; I 
didn't get on with any of them.


The problem is mainly that so many web sites use javascript & flash, 
etc. They don't conform to www standards.



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