Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Price

On 5/3/06, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:22:48AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
>
> er, having a little trouble here -- xsensors comes up blank!  not sure
> if that means I'm missing the requisite kernel drivers.  any way to
> tell what I need?
>

You probably need to setup your lmsensors. try `sensors-detect` to get
that going.



ok, thanks andrew.  after some missteps got everything working anw
it's going well.  I think I *may* have found my problem though.  I was
using a powerd usb/kvm switch which failed entirely this morning. 
Since I disconnected it mypower problems seem to have faded away. 
Hopefully that will bethe end of it -- and if now I will check the

sensord log aftern extcrash.  thanks,

matt



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Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:22:48AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> 
> er, having a little trouble here -- xsensors comes up blank!  not sure
> if that means I'm missing the requisite kernel drivers.  any way to
> tell what I need?
> 

You probably need to setup your lmsensors. try `sensors-detect` to get
that going.

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Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Price

On 5/3/06, Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 5/3/06, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



thanks andrew.  these hardware monitors -- are they things like
xseonsors and mbmon?  I've just apt-get installed those and will try
them out. other suggestions still welcome!


er, having a little trouble here -- xsensors comes up blank!  not sure
if that means I'm missing the requisite kernel drivers.  any way to
tell what I need?

thanks,

matt




thanks,

matt


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Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Price

On 5/3/06, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:49:13PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm having a problem with hard crashes on my box (sid, not quite up to
> date).  They seem to happen in a variety of circumstances -- the
> computer locks hard in an X session (running xfce4 usually) and is
> inaccessible by ssh or any other.  If amarok is running at the time it
> will sound as though a 1-second or shorter loop is playing; otherwise
> the only indication is the disappearance of the cursor and a
> nonfunctional keyboard/mouse.  OTher programs that have been running &
> using a fair bit of cpu at thetime of crash include firefox &
> dvd::rip, as well as openoffice and audacity.
>
> I've looked in /var/log/messages/ syslog/ and dmesg and don't see
> anything special.  I suppose probably whatever is causing the crash is
> also failing to give me the appropriate message.  What kinds of things
> can I do to help identifiy the cause of the crash further?


I'm always an advocate of looking for hardware problems for the
inconsistent type issues... set up some sensors monitoring maybe and
see if you've got anything like a failing power supply for example. I
had one that was slowly dying and the only sign was random freezes
with no common factors that I could see. But I noticed my voltages
were drifting farther and farther out of spec. new power supply solved
that problem. ymmv. .02 etc



thanks andrew.  these hardware monitors -- are they things like
xseonsors and mbmon?  I've just apt-get installed those and will try
them out. other suggestions still welcome!

thanks,

matt



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Re: tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:49:13PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm having a problem with hard crashes on my box (sid, not quite up to
> date).  They seem to happen in a variety of circumstances -- the
> computer locks hard in an X session (running xfce4 usually) and is
> inaccessible by ssh or any other.  If amarok is running at the time it
> will sound as though a 1-second or shorter loop is playing; otherwise
> the only indication is the disappearance of the cursor and a
> nonfunctional keyboard/mouse.  OTher programs that have been running &
> using a fair bit of cpu at thetime of crash include firefox &
> dvd::rip, as well as openoffice and audacity.  
> 
> I've looked in /var/log/messages/ syslog/ and dmesg and don't see
> anything special.  I suppose probably whatever is causing the crash is
> also failing to give me the appropriate message.  What kinds of things
> can I do to help identifiy the cause of the crash further?


I'm always an advocate of looking for hardware problems for the
inconsistent type issues... set up some sensors monitoring maybe and
see if you've got anything like a failing power supply for example. I
had one that was slowly dying and the only sign was random freezes
with no common factors that I could see. But I noticed my voltages
were drifting farther and farther out of spec. new power supply solved
that problem. ymmv. .02 etc

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tracking down a hard crash

2006-05-02 Thread Matt Price
Hi folks,

I'm having a problem with hard crashes on my box (sid, not quite up to
date).  They seem to happen in a variety of circumstances -- the
computer locks hard in an X session (running xfce4 usually) and is
inaccessible by ssh or any other.  If amarok is running at the time it
will sound as though a 1-second or shorter loop is playing; otherwise
the only indication is the disappearance of the cursor and a
nonfunctional keyboard/mouse.  OTher programs that have been running &
using a fair bit of cpu at thetime of crash include firefox &
dvd::rip, as well as openoffice and audacity.  

I've looked in /var/log/messages/ syslog/ and dmesg and don't see
anything special.  I suppose probably whatever is causing the crash is
also failing to give me the appropriate message.  What kinds of things
can I do to help identifiy the cause of the crash further?

thanks,

matt



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