udev, module-init-tools, 2.6.14

2005-11-20 Thread Jim McCloskey

Hello. For a variety of reasons, I want to install a hand-compiled
(and patched) 2.6.14 kernel. I have two questions concerning that.

[1] At present, I have udev version 056 from stable, but the Changes
file in the kernel documentation recommends at least udev 058. Testing
and Unstable both have a much newer version of udev: 074. But when I
try to install this version, apt wants to remove both the hotplug and
module-init-tools packages. I gather that these later versions of udev
are supposed to supplant hotplug. But surely module-init-tools should
not be removed from the system? Can anyone shed any light on this?
The changelog for udev includes:

  * Added conflicts with hotplug and with module-init-tools
releases without support for /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/.

Does this mean that there is no way at present to have both udev and
module-init-tools installed simultaneously in testing/unstable?

[2] In 2.6.14, pcmcia-cs is deprecated (though still supported) and
the recommendation is to use pcmciautils instead. I know that there
was an Intent-to-Package announcement for this last July, but I
haven't been able to find an actual package anywhere. Does anyone know
what the current status of this effort is?

Thanks very much,

Jim


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Re: udev, module-init-tools, 2.6.14

2005-11-20 Thread mikepolniak
On 15:09 Sun 20 Nov , Jim McCloskey wrote:
 
 Hello. For a variety of reasons, I want to install a hand-compiled
 (and patched) 2.6.14 kernel. I have two questions concerning that.
 
 [1] At present, I have udev version 056 from stable, but the Changes
 file in the kernel documentation recommends at least udev 058. Testing
 and Unstable both have a much newer version of udev: 074. But when I
 try to install this version, apt wants to remove both the hotplug and
 module-init-tools packages. I gather that these later versions of udev
 are supposed to supplant hotplug. But surely module-init-tools should
 not be removed from the system? Can anyone shed any light on this?
 The changelog for udev includes:
 
   * Added conflicts with hotplug and with module-init-tools
 releases without support for /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/.
 
 Does this mean that there is no way at present to have both udev and
 module-init-tools installed simultaneously in testing/unstable?
 
I have been running my custom 2.6.14 kernel with udev 074 for a few
weeks. This latest version of udev removes hotplug and you can also remove
all references to hotplug in /etc/*

But i did not have any conflict with module-init-tools. So you should
not remove it. You could get around this by d/l the udev-074*.deb
and using dpkg to install it and then purge hotplug.

You can ask the udev developers about that ChangeLog on the list at
linux.hotplug.devel


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Re: udev, module-init-tools, 2.6.14

2005-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Jim McCloskey wrote:
 Does this mean that there is no way at present to have both udev and
 module-init-tools installed simultaneously in testing/unstable?

No, it just means you have not an acceptable module-init-tools installed.

apt-cache show udev in unstable tells you that:
Version: 0.074-3
Provides: hotplug
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libselinux1 (= 1.26), libsepol1 (= 1.8),
initscripts (= 2.85-16), makedev (= 2.3.1-77), sed (= 3.95), lsb-base (=
3.0-6)
Conflicts: lvm-common ( 1.5.13), hotplug, module-init-tools ( 3.2-pre9-1)

So get module-init-tools from unstable, and install it along with udev in
the *same* dpkg -i line, or before you install udev 74.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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