upgrading helix-gnome stuff

2000-07-25 Thread Brian May
Hello,

when upgrading to the latest helix-gnome debs from within helix-gnome,
often weird things happen to my X-Server.  Often, for instance my
computer constantly beeps at me, until I push Alt+Backspace, and force
it to restart. Once, my whole console locked up, and I had to log in
remotely (None of the hot keys worked).

I know somebody who uses Redhat, and the Helix rpms, and had exactly
the same problem. (except in this case a reboot was required, and
remotely logging in was not practical).

I am curious, how can upgrading helix wreck the running X-Server so
badly? Is this a bug in the X-Server?
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: upgrading helix-gnome stuff

2000-07-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On 25 Jul 2000, Brian May wrote:

 Hello,
 
 when upgrading to the latest helix-gnome debs from within helix-gnome,
 often weird things happen to my X-Server.  Often, for instance my
 computer constantly beeps at me, until I push Alt+Backspace, and force

Did it beep at you only when you press keys or click the mouse? I have
seen X do that a few times.. it is very very odd.

Jason



Re: upgrading helix-gnome stuff

2000-07-25 Thread Brian May
 Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jason On 25 Jul 2000, Brian May wrote:

 when upgrading to the latest helix-gnome debs from within
 helix-gnome, often weird things happen to my X-Server.  Often,
 for instance my computer constantly beeps at me, until I push
 Alt+Backspace, and force

Jason Did it beep at you only when you press keys or click the
Jason mouse? I have seen X do that a few times.. it is very very
Jason odd.

No, it beeps with my hands off everything.
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: upgrading helix-gnome stuff

2000-07-25 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Brian,

Quoth Brian May, 
 when upgrading to the latest helix-gnome debs from within helix-gnome,
 often weird things happen to my X-Server.  Often, for instance my
 computer constantly beeps at me, until I push Alt+Backspace, and force
 it to restart. Once, my whole console locked up, and I had to log in
 remotely (None of the hot keys worked).

I have also observed this behaviour, and as far as I can work out, it
comes from sawfish (the default helix window-manager) not allowing
itself to be upgraded gracefully.

The best way that I have found to get around this is to log out of X
(and into the GDM login screen) and then run the apt-get upgrade from a
console.

If anyone has any better suggestions, I'd be interested to hear about
them. It's pretty annoying, especially with something updated as
frequently as sawfish.

cheers,

damon

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