Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread digitalwop
Am Sonntag, 12. März 2023, 11:47:23 CET schrieb davidson:
> On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hello,
> > i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines
> > and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console.
> > If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual
> > console with: strg alt f2 and switch back i am logged out of my active
> > session but i can't login because the login screen is frozen with a "pre
> > typed" password.
> > I can only move my mouse, and pressing any key does nothing.
> 
> I don't use KDE. Forgive my speculation.
> 
> Q: Where did the "pre-typed" password come from?
> A: You typed it. You are looking at tty used by the dm greeter, not
> the one used by your graphical desktop session
> 
> Q: Where is your graphical desktop session?
> A: On some other tty. That is, you didn't "switch back" to your
> session. You switched to the greeter. Output from the 'w' command
> might give you some clues about who is using what tty.
> 
> These are just guesses, unlikely to be correct.
If i start my laptop the sddm session starts on tty7 as normal.
then i can login just normal and my desktop(kde) starts.

But then, when i change from tty7 (where my active kde session is) to any 
other tty and then back to tty7 i get the sddm login screen with my greyed 
"pre-typed" password.
 Its the same image as if you login, hit enter , and then the image after that 
(just before the kde loading screen starts)
Problem is, i can only move my mouse and pressing any key does nothing.







Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson

On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote:

Hello,
i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines and on 
both
the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console.
If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual console 
with: strg alt f2
and switch back i am logged out of my active session but i can't login because 
the login
screen is frozen with a "pre typed" password.
I can only move my mouse, and pressing any key does nothing.


I don't use KDE. Forgive my speculation.

Q: Where did the "pre-typed" password come from?
A: You typed it. You are looking at tty used by the dm greeter, not
   the one used by your graphical desktop session

Q: Where is your graphical desktop session?
A: On some other tty. That is, you didn't "switch back" to your
   session. You switched to the greeter. Output from the 'w' command
   might give you some clues about who is using what tty.

These are just guesses, unlikely to be correct.

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Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-12 Thread davidson

On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 digital...@gmx.de wrote:

Hello,
i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines


So you decided stable was too boring, and chose to install testing.


and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual
console.  If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to
the virtual console with: strg alt f2 and switch back i am logged
out of my active session but i can't login because the login screen
is frozen with a "pre typed" password.  I can only move my mouse,
and pressing any key does nothing.

Also after klicking on standby in the active KDE session, breaks the
track pad in sddm and is still broken after login.

Does somebody had same problems before and fixed it?


Have you read this page?

  Debian-Installer errata
  https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

  Errata for Bookworm Alpha 2

   This is a list of known problems in the Bookworm Alpha 2 release of
   the Debian Installer. If you do not see your problem listed here,
   please send us an installation report[1] describing the problem.

   [1] https://www.debian.org//releases/stable/amd64/ch05s04#submit-bug

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Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-11 Thread digitalwop
Am Samstag, 11. März 2023, 22:14:52 CET schrieb Timothy M Butterworth:
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 4:06 PM  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines
> > and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console.
> > 
> > If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual
> > console with: strg alt f2
> > 
> > and switch back i am logged out of my active session but i can't login
> > because the login
> > 
> > screen is frozen with a "pre typed" password.
> > 
> > I can only move my mouse, and pressing any key does nothing.
> > 
> > 
> > Also after klicking on standby in the active KDE session, breaks the track
> > pad in sddm and
> > 
> > is still broken after login.
> > 
> > 
> > Does somebody had same problems before and fixed it?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards Felix
> 
> I have KDE 5.27.2 with Frameworks 5.103 and mine works fine. What version
> do you have? There were a lot of updates recently.
> 
> Tim

i have the same versions as you do .
My installation is a complete new one from the alpha2 installer.

Felix





Re: debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 4:06 PM  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines
> and on both the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console.
>
> If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual
> console with: strg alt f2
>
> and switch back i am logged out of my active session but i can't login
> because the login
>
> screen is frozen with a "pre typed" password.
>
> I can only move my mouse, and pressing any key does nothing.
>
>
> Also after klicking on standby in the active KDE session, breaks the track
> pad in sddm and
>
> is still broken after login.
>
>
> Does somebody had same problems before and fixed it?
>
>
> Regards Felix
>

I have KDE 5.27.2 with Frameworks 5.103 and mine works fine. What version
do you have? There were a lot of updates recently.

Tim

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debian 12 broken login when switching virtual console

2023-03-11 Thread digitalwop
Hello,
i have installed (alpha 2 release) Debian 12 (with KDE) on two machines and on 
both
the sddm session crashes when i switch the virtual console.
If i am logged in an active KDE session and i switch to the virtual console 
with: strg alt f2
and switch back i am logged out of my active session but i can't login because 
the login
screen is frozen with a "pre typed" password.
I can only move my mouse, and pressing any key does nothing.


Also after klicking on standby in the active KDE session, breaks the track pad 
in sddm and
is still broken after login.


Does somebody had same problems before and fixed it?


Regards Felix



unwanted change to lower desktop resolution during tty1 virtual console boot process

2018-11-17 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Not using any desktop environment. Not using any login manager. Using
Debian stretch inside VirtualBox.

Initially during boot the usual grub configuration [1] works for me. The
screen resolution get increased from to 1024x768.

However, as systemd continues booting, I see "Set console font and
keymap". Right before the virtual console (tty1) appears, the resolution
is reset to a lower 800x600. The window size decreased.

My questions:

1) What changes the tty screen resolution later in the boot process?
console-setup.service?

2) How to prevent the screen resolution from being changed or how to
change the screen resolution by the program that changes it
(console-setup.service?)?

fbset does not work at all inside VirtualBox. Error message:

ioctl FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument

Cheers,
Patrick

[1]
GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768x24
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
or GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768x24



Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

2018-09-15 Thread Ric Moore

On 09/15/2018 10:28 AM, Thakur Mahashaya wrote:

//"Есть два великих грехов в мире...
..грех невежества, грех от глупости.//
So stupidity is the mode of ignorance.


As the Sorting Hat once said, "I know what to do with YOU!" ...and off 
you go into my junk folder. :) Ric


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Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

2018-09-15 Thread Thakur Mahashaya
//here are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.//
So stupidity is the mode of ignorance.

15.09.2018, 17:20, "Ric Moore" :
> On 09/14/2018 07:54 AM, Marco Righi wrote:
>>  Hello,
>>  the NVIDIA drivers (384 from Debian and 390 repositories from the nvidia 
>> site) do not allow me to have "virtual consoles" (to be clear, those that 
>> are activated with Ctrl-Alt-F1 .. F6). By installing Nouveau the problem 
>> disappears, with the two different versions of the NVIDIA drivers the 
>> problem appears.
>>
>>  The video card is:
>>
>>  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev 
>> a1)
>
> Are you running the correct nvidia driver version?? A 520 is pretty long
> in the tooth and might need the legacy driver. Ric
>
> --
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

2018-09-15 Thread Thakur Mahashaya
//"Есть два великих грехов в мире...
..грех невежества, грех от глупости.//
So stupidity is the mode of ignorance.

15.09.2018, 17:20, "Ric Moore" :
> On 09/14/2018 07:54 AM, Marco Righi wrote:
>>  Hello,
>>  the NVIDIA drivers (384 from Debian and 390 repositories from the nvidia 
>> site) do not allow me to have "virtual consoles" (to be clear, those that 
>> are activated with Ctrl-Alt-F1 .. F6). By installing Nouveau the problem 
>> disappears, with the two different versions of the NVIDIA drivers the 
>> problem appears.
>>
>>  The video card is:
>>
>>  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev 
>> a1)
>
> Are you running the correct nvidia driver version?? A 520 is pretty long
> in the tooth and might need the legacy driver. Ric
>
> --
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html



Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

2018-09-15 Thread Ric Moore

On 09/14/2018 07:54 AM, Marco Righi wrote:

Hello,
the NVIDIA drivers (384 from Debian and 390 repositories from the nvidia site) do not 
allow me to have "virtual consoles" (to be clear, those that are activated with 
Ctrl-Alt-F1 .. F6). By installing Nouveau the problem disappears, with the two different 
versions of the NVIDIA drivers the problem appears.

The video card is:

VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1)


Are you running the correct nvidia driver version?? A 520 is pretty long 
in the tooth and might need the legacy driver. Ric



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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html



NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

2018-09-14 Thread Marco Righi
Hello,
the NVIDIA drivers (384 from Debian and 390 repositories from the nvidia site) 
do not allow me to have "virtual consoles" (to be clear, those that are 
activated with Ctrl-Alt-F1 .. F6). By installing Nouveau the problem 
disappears, with the two different versions of the NVIDIA drivers the problem 
appears.

The video card is:

VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1)

With the Nouveau drivers during the Boot there is a time when the video card 
switches from text mode to graphic mode (so to speak, when the [ok] in green 
are starting to appear). With the NVIDIA dirver it crashes while remaining in 
the text mode (lightdm is executed correctly).

I reported the bug with reportbug-ng, let's see what happens.

Thanks for your help.

m



Re: Trying to understand keymaps in virtual console.

2017-10-08 Thread tomas
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:49:41PM -, apreka...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> Trying to examine why i cant insert acute accent diacritic over greek  vowels 
> i come upon the console-common package. 
> Trying to install it i get prompted:
> 
> -Select keymap from arch-list   
>   // select one of the predefined keymaps specific for your architecture.
>// (recommended for non usb keyboards)
> -Dont touch keymap
>// Dont overwrite the keymap in /etc/console
>// which is maintained manually with install keymap
> -Keep kernel keymap
>// prevent from any keymap being loaded the next time system boots
> -Select keymap from full list
>// list all predefined keymaps. Recommended when using
>// cross architecture (often USB) keyboards
> 
> So i wonder.. will that keymap mess with my X server or not?

As far as I understand, this package is specifically focused on the
boot time keymap and has nothing to do with X.

> How come that package was not installed ? Was my virtual console
> working with another keymap and if so then do i need console data?

Let me quote the package description:

  Description: basic infrastructure for text console configuration
This package contains the install-keymap(8) utility, which is the
recommended tool to specify a boot-time keymap to the system, as
well as tools for internal use of keymap-providing packages.

So if you are happy with your default boot-time keymap, you don't need
that.

If you just want to have a consistent setup between X and the text mode
Linux console, the package console-setup  is your friend.

Cheers
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Trying to understand keymaps in virtual console.

2017-10-07 Thread aprekates
Trying to examine why i cant insert acute accent diacritic over greek  vowels i 
come upon the console-common package. 
Trying to install it i get prompted:

-Select keymap from arch-list   
  // select one of the predefined keymaps specific for your architecture.
   // (recommended for non usb keyboards)
-Dont touch keymap
   // Dont overwrite the keymap in /etc/console
   // which is maintained manually with install keymap
-Keep kernel keymap
   // prevent from any keymap being loaded the next time system boots
-Select keymap from full list
   // list all predefined keymaps. Recommended when using
   // cross architecture (often USB) keyboards

So i wonder.. will that keymap mess with my X server or not?
How come that package was not installed ? Was my virtual console
working with another keymap and if so then do i need console data?










can't copy/paste between gpm and emacs on virtual console/consoles

2012-06-02 Thread Dan B.


In Squeeze, in virtual consoles, I can't copy and paste between gpm
and emacs (emacs-nox) as I could in Sarge.

Trying to select and paste with the mouse in virtual consoles seems to
show that emacs now recognizes virtual console mouse events and hooks
them into its usual copy/paste mechanism.

(Selecting text (by left-buttom-dragging) in a VC not displaying emacs
(via gpm) and then middle-clicking to try to paste into emacs in a VC
pastes text previously selected in emacs instead of the text just
selected via GPM).  Similarly, drag-selecting text in emacs in a VC and
then middle-click pasting into a VC not displaying emacs pastes text
previously selected via gpm insert of the text just selected via emacs.

In the good old days, middle-click pasting to emacs in a virtual
console would paste the text most recently selected by dragging in any
virtual console.)



How can I restore the old behavior (so that I can, say, select text in
emacs and then paste that text into a shell (on another VC, or in the
same VC after backgrounding emacs))?

Where is emacs' configuration of its handling of virtual console mouse
events?  What do I set/unset to disable it?


Thanks.

Daniel


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Re: can't copy/paste between gpm and emacs on virtual console/consoles

2012-06-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-06-02 19:38 +0200, Dan B. wrote:

 In Squeeze, in virtual consoles, I can't copy and paste between gpm
 and emacs (emacs-nox) as I could in Sarge.

 Trying to select and paste with the mouse in virtual consoles seems to
 show that emacs now recognizes virtual console mouse events and hooks
 them into its usual copy/paste mechanism.

This feature is new in Emacs 23.

 Where is emacs' configuration of its handling of virtual console mouse
 events?  What do I set/unset to disable it?

Customize gpm-mouse-mode.

Cheers,
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Re: i915 kms, init runlevel 2 switches virtual console

2009-11-23 Thread Martin Kraus
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 05:15:22PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
  Hi. I'm using debian testing with vanilla kernel 2.6.32-rc8. I've staticaly
  compiled i915 with kms enabled and it acctually works.
 
 Why not build it as a module and load it from initramfs?  That is what I do.

that doesn't matter. it works and I get fb sooner in the boot process.

 I also have console-setup installed, and it does not do that here.
 Might be an issue with GDM (which I do not use).

I'm not using gdm. the switch comes right at the start of runlevel 2, as a
matter of fact, the message about runlevel change is the first that appears
a the last virtual console.

  Also, kernel switches the required video mode a bit later then vesafb did. 
  Is
  there a way to set this on the kernel command line? I've read that it is
  recommended to get rid of the vga=mode. I've tried setting this via video=
  parameter, but I guess inteldrmfb doesn't support modedb.
 
 If you build it as module, the initramfs scripts translate the video=
 parameter into something the module understands.  Thus, video=i915 is
 sufficient if you enable KMS by default (CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y).

there is no difference between static compile vs. module. the driver detects
display (probably) and sets the recommended resolution automaticaly and that
is what it does. the only difference from vesafb is that vesafb changes it
right at the start of kernel boot process while i915 does it after some time
in the boot process.
but I guess that vesafb uses the standard and can be set sooner and i915 needs
some kernel stuff initialized before it can grab and set the mode.

All I'd like to know is what and why switches virtual terminals at boot. 

mk


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i915 kms, init runlevel 2 switches virtual console

2009-11-22 Thread Martin Kraus
Hi. I'm using debian testing with vanilla kernel 2.6.32-rc8. I've staticaly
compiled i915 with kms enabled and it acctually works. The only thing that
annoyes me is that after init runs runlevel 2, it automatically switches to vt
4 (I have only 4 vt running from init) a continues boot messages there. I'm
not sure what does that, I'm suspecting console-setup of doing that.

Is this happening to anyone else? Before I dig into console documentation to
learn how it works to fix it. I guess that is going to be time consuming.

Also, kernel switches the required video mode a bit later then vesafb did. Is
there a way to set this on the kernel command line? I've read that it is
recommended to get rid of the vga=mode. I've tried setting this via video=
parameter, but I guess inteldrmfb doesn't support modedb. The vga= probably
uses vesa mode that isn't part of the fbcon. However, I know almost nothing
about how that actually works. It would be just a nice thing to have the
correct mode set right from the start.

thanks for any pointers

mk


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Re: i915 kms, init runlevel 2 switches virtual console

2009-11-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-11-22 16:30 +0100, Martin Kraus wrote:

 Hi. I'm using debian testing with vanilla kernel 2.6.32-rc8. I've staticaly
 compiled i915 with kms enabled and it acctually works.

Why not build it as a module and load it from initramfs?  That is what I do.

 The only thing that
 annoyes me is that after init runs runlevel 2, it automatically switches to vt
 4 (I have only 4 vt running from init) a continues boot messages there. I'm
 not sure what does that, I'm suspecting console-setup of doing that.

I also have console-setup installed, and it does not do that here.
Might be an issue with GDM (which I do not use).

 Also, kernel switches the required video mode a bit later then vesafb did. Is
 there a way to set this on the kernel command line? I've read that it is
 recommended to get rid of the vga=mode. I've tried setting this via video=
 parameter, but I guess inteldrmfb doesn't support modedb.

If you build it as module, the initramfs scripts translate the video=
parameter into something the module understands.  Thus, video=i915 is
sufficient if you enable KMS by default (CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y).

Sven


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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-27 Thread Tim Dobson

Tim Dobson wrote:

Hi Steve,

Steve Kemp wrote:

  There are two issues that might be occuring:

  1.  You don't have getty listening on the serial console of the
 guest.  Update /etc/inittab to enable it.

  2.  You do have getty running but you're using the wrong thing.
 Try using hvc0 instead of ttyS0.


Thanks

 From research on the web, I'd figured these things might well be the 
issues so I've rebooted the host on several occasions.


I've tried with this /etc/inittab - http://pastebin.com/m5005c3b5 - and 
the result is the same...


Can anyone see glaring mistakes in that file?

I'll try and get more inform on what versions of everything I'm running 
ASAP.


xen-linux-system-2.6.26-bpo.1-xen-amd64 on Etch

I guess because it's a backport I use 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 
hvc0 with reference to 
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Nologinpromptwhenusing.60xmconsole.60


Or am I completely confused? :-/

Sorry for being a pain


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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-27 Thread Tim Dobson

Tim Dobson wrote:
I'll try and get more inform on what versions of everything I'm 
running ASAP.


xen-linux-system-2.6.26-bpo.1-xen-amd64 on Etch

I guess because it's a backport I use 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 
hvc0 with reference to 
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Nologinpromptwhenusing.60xmconsole.60


Or am I completely confused? :-/


Maybe just a little bit.. :p
Based on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502798
I assume I should be referring to xen documentation aimed at Lenny and 
reading through that bug?


Tim


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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-27 Thread Tim Dobson

Tim Dobson wrote:

Tim Dobson wrote:

xen-linux-system-2.6.26-bpo.1-xen-amd64 on Etch

I guess because it's a backport I use 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 
hvc0 with reference to 
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Nologinpromptwhenusing.60xmconsole.60


Or am I completely confused? :-/


Maybe just a little bit.. :p
Based on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502798
I assume I should be referring to xen documentation aimed at Lenny and 
reading through that bug?


I've followed the info at
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#AdditionalnotefordomUonlennyusingxen-tools

But still nothing is appearing on xm console after
Starting periodic command scheduler: crond.

Would it be easier if i simply used xen-linux-system-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 
instead of xen-linux-system-2.6.26-bpo.1-xen-amd64 on Etch?


Cheers

Tim


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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-20 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi,
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote:
 Hi there,

 I'm running/setting up a Etch Debian Host system, I would like to run guests
 on.
 I have installed the right meta packages ( dependencies!).
How did you try install the domU's? With xen-tools (from etch or from
backports) our machines works fine.

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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-20 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue May 19, 2009 at 23:39:29 +, Tim Dobson wrote:

 I'm having an issue that when I run xm console vm name everything
 displays fine up until right before where the login prompt should
 appear,  where nothing does appear.

 I suspect it relates to
 http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Nologinpromptwhenusing.60xmconsole.60

 But what do other people think? ...those instructions are for lenny.. :/

  There are two issues that might be occuring:

  1.  You don't have getty listening on the serial console of the
 guest.  Update /etc/inittab to enable it.

  2.  You do have getty running but you're using the wrong thing.
 Try using hvc0 instead of ttyS0.

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Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-20 Thread Tim Dobson

Hi Steve,

Steve Kemp wrote:

  There are two issues that might be occuring:

  1.  You don't have getty listening on the serial console of the
 guest.  Update /etc/inittab to enable it.

  2.  You do have getty running but you're using the wrong thing.
 Try using hvc0 instead of ttyS0.


Thanks

From research on the web, I'd figured these things might well be the 
issues so I've rebooted the host on several occasions.


I've tried with this /etc/inittab - http://pastebin.com/m5005c3b5 - and 
the result is the same...


Can anyone see glaring mistakes in that file?

I'll try and get more inform on what versions of everything I'm running 
ASAP.


Thanks :)

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Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-19 Thread Tim Dobson

Hi there,

I'm running/setting up a Etch Debian Host system, I would like to run 
guests on.

I have installed the right meta packages ( dependencies!).

I'm having an issue that when I run xm console vm name everything 
displays fine up until right before where the login prompt should 
appear,  where nothing does appear.


I suspect it relates to 
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Nologinpromptwhenusing.60xmconsole.60


But what do other people think? ...those instructions are for lenny.. :/

cheers,

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$DISPLAY set when I log into virtual console

2009-03-27 Thread Dale Harris
So I don't run xdm or gdm, or similar display.  I like to come in via
regular getty to the virtual console and start up startx on my own.
However, I notice now that $DISPLAY is let to localhost:0.0 when I log
in, and I'm wondering... why?  And where it is set.  I would like to
turn it off.  I don't see this done in any config file in /etc, nor is
it in anything in my home directory... I tried strace'ing login and
getty to see if they were doing, but I haven't seen it.  Are we so
tied to X windows now that we can't live without $DISPLAY being set?
It's mildly annoying because if I want keychain to work correctly now,
I have to test to see if I'm logging in on a virtual console,
otherwise it tried to connect to $DISPLAY, which of course, doesn't
exist because there is no X server running.  keychain isn't smart
enough to figure that out, or wants me to set the --nogui option,
whatever.

So is there a reason $DISPLAY is set on a virtual console?

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Re: $DISPLAY set when I log into virtual console

2009-03-27 Thread tiagosaboga
On Mar 27, 12:30 pm, Dale Harris rod...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I don't run xdm or gdm, or similar display.  I like to come in via
 regular getty to the virtual console and start up startx on my own.
 However, I notice now that $DISPLAY is let to localhost:0.0 when I log
 in, and I'm wondering... why?  And where it is set.  I would like to
 turn it off.  I don't see this done in any config file in /etc, nor is
 it in anything in my home directory... I tried strace'ing login and
 getty to see if they were doing, but I haven't seen it.  Are we so
 tied to X windows now that we can't live without $DISPLAY being set?
 It's mildly annoying because if I want keychain to work correctly now,
 I have to test to see if I'm logging in on a virtual console,
 otherwise it tried to connect to $DISPLAY, which of course, doesn't
 exist because there is no X server running.  keychain isn't smart
 enough to figure that out, or wants me to set the --nogui option,
 whatever.

I do not have this behaviour here, with lenny and bash. Have you
 tried to rename ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile and ~/.profile to see
if some command in them is setting it as an unintended (to you)
 side effect?

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Switch to virtual console in xorg - SOLVED

2006-04-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
After the recent xorg upgrade, with its attendant excitement, I found I
could no longer switch to a virtual console with ctrl-alt-F1. However, I
have got it to work again by adding this line to the keyboard section:
 Option Xkbdisabletrue

The section now reads as follows:


Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout gb
Option  XkbVariantgb
Option  Xkbdisabletrue
EndSection

I hope this may be useful to anyone who has encountered the same
problem.

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Re: Switch to virtual console in xorg - SOLVED

2006-04-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 15:40:32 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 After the recent xorg upgrade, with its attendant excitement, I found I
 could no longer switch to a virtual console with ctrl-alt-F1. However, I
 have got it to work again by adding this line to the keyboard section:
Option Xkbdisabletrue
 
 The section now reads as follows:
 
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Generic Keyboard
   Driver  keyboard
   Option  CoreKeyboard
   Option  XkbRules  xorg
   Option  XkbModel  pc105
   Option  XkbLayout gb
   Option  XkbVariantgb
   Option  Xkbdisabletrue
 EndSection

It's great that it now works again for you, but I am a bit surprised
that you had to disable Xkb completely to achieve this. I think the
problem might be due to the keyboard driver (depreciated AFAIK).
Furthermore, I think XkbVariant should be something like basic or
nodeadkeys, but not a layout code like gb. If you are willing to try
it once more you could start with the basic configuration from
/etc/X11/xkb/README.config, adapted for gb:

Section InputDevice
Identifier Generic Keyboard
Driver kbd
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout gb
Option XKbOptions 
EndSection

Maybe that will get it working with Xkb enabled. You should also check
if the package xkb-data has been installed correctly during the upgrade.

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Re: Switch to virtual console in xorg - SOLVED

2006-04-18 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 15:40 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 After the recent xorg upgrade, with its attendant excitement, I found I

it broke for me after an upgrade on thursday or friday (april 13 or 14),
but after an upgrade this morning it was fixed.

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Re: Switch to virtual console in xorg - SOLVED

2006-04-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 18 Apr 2006, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 15:40:32 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  After the recent xorg upgrade, with its attendant excitement, I found I
  could no longer switch to a virtual console with ctrl-alt-F1. However, I
  have got it to work again by adding this line to the keyboard section:
   Option Xkbdisabletrue
  
  The section now reads as follows:
  
  
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Generic Keyboard
  Driver  keyboard
  Option  CoreKeyboard
  Option  XkbRules  xorg
  Option  XkbModel  pc105
  Option  XkbLayout gb
  Option  XkbVariantgb
  Option  Xkbdisabletrue
  EndSection
 
 It's great that it now works again for you, but I am a bit surprised
 that you had to disable Xkb completely to achieve this. I think the
 problem might be due to the keyboard driver (depreciated AFAIK).
 Furthermore, I think XkbVariant should be something like basic or
 nodeadkeys, but not a layout code like gb. If you are willing to try
 it once more you could start with the basic configuration from
 /etc/X11/xkb/README.config, adapted for gb:
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Generic Keyboard
 Driver kbd
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout gb
 Option XKbOptions 
 EndSection
 
 Maybe that will get it working with Xkb enabled. You should also check
 if the package xkb-data has been installed correctly during the upgrade.
 
 -- 
 Regards,
   Florian


No, it didn't work like that. (I also reinstalled xkb-data, to make
sure.)

I've no idea why my setup works, but it does. Something to do with my
keyboard, who knows? 

Anthony

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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-23 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 22 Dec 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 

[snip] 

 Problem solved.  It turned out to be one of those warnings I recognized.
 
 For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named Microsoft in
 response to the line:
 
Section InputDevice
   ...
   Option  XkbVariant  Microsoft
   ...
EndSection
 
 I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file.  Quite possibly back
 when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian.  I guess I just
 toted the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical
 timings when configuring a new system.
 
 The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to
 look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty
 details of keyboards under X.
 
 There always seemed to be more pressing issues.  And besides, it's difficult
 to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X.  It seems more
 complicated than it ought to be.  And dry.
 
 Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning.
 
 Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to
 scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had
 relevence to the problem at hand.  That trained my eye on the warning.
 
 I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning
 apparently was no longer benign.  I removed the XbdVariant, and now
 everything is back to normal.
 
 Pete


This is not the only possible cause. In my case what was needed was to
include the following line under InputDevice in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

 Option XkbDisabletrue

No idea why.


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Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
Dear all,

I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I
switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:

0. This is a Debian/testing machine.

1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.

2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports:

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False


3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9].

4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already
   being there (for example, I've seen the message:

  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
  removing from list!

   for at least a year.)

5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see 7P.


I will go nuts without my consoles.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Pete


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Kent West

Peter Jay Salzman wrote:


Dear all,

I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I
switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:

0. This is a Debian/testing machine.

1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.

I would expect that X.org has filtered into Testing by now; perhaps the 
problem is in xorg.conf rather than in XF86Config?


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 22 Dec 05,  9:43 AM, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
 happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I
 switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:
 
 0. This is a Debian/testing machine.
 
 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.
 
 I would expect that X.org has filtered into Testing by now; perhaps the 
 problem is in xorg.conf rather than in XF86Config?
 
Yeah, you're right.  I hadn't noticed the existence of that file.
Unfortunately, the two files appear to be duplicates

   # diff xorg.conf XF86Config-4
   # 

so there's no DontVTSwitch in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, either.   xwininfo and
xdpyinfo don't seem to give any info that appears relevent to the problem.
I was hoping they'd show DontVTSwitch in their output.  At least then I'd
know what was causing the problem.

This is so wierd...

Any other suggestions?

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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 22 Dec 05,  9:09 AM, p p said:
 Dear all,
 
 I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
 happened must have happened during my last aptitude upgrade, because I
 switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:
 
 0. This is a Debian/testing machine.
 
 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.
 
 2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports:
 
KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False
 
KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False
 
KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False
 
 
 3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9].
 
 4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already
being there (for example, I've seen the message:
 
   Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
   removing from list!
 
for at least a year.)
 
 5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see 7P.
 
 
 I will go nuts without my consoles.  Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 Pete

Problem solved.  It turned out to be one of those warnings I recognized.

For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named Microsoft in
response to the line:

   Section InputDevice
  ...
  Option  XkbVariant  Microsoft
  ...
   EndSection

I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file.  Quite possibly back
when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian.  I guess I just
toted the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical
timings when configuring a new system.

The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to
look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty
details of keyboards under X.

There always seemed to be more pressing issues.  And besides, it's difficult
to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X.  It seems more
complicated than it ought to be.  And dry.

Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning.

Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to
scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had
relevence to the problem at hand.  That trained my eye on the warning.

I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning
apparently was no longer benign.  I removed the XbdVariant, and now
everything is back to normal.

Pete


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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
thank you for your replies.
1.The DontVTSwitch option is commented.
2.My videocard is built in the motherboard - Intel Corp. 82915G
What actually happens is the following-during the debian
booting(shortly before the X server starts and takes me to the graphic
mode),when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 I can switch into the virtual
console,but once the KDE login prompt is shown I can't switch into the
other consoles any more.
Any other ideas?:)
Thank you again
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can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
really appreciate your help.
I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
 really appreciate your help.
 I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
 mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
 switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
 you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
 omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Do you have the DontVTSwitch option in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?

,[ man XF86Config-4 ]-
| Option DontVTSwitch  boolean
|   This disallows the use of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence (where Fn refers to
|   one  of  the  numbered  function keys).   That  sequence  is  normally
|   used to switch to another virtual terminal on operating systems that
|   have this feature.  When this option is enabled, that key sequence has
|   no special meaning  and  is passed to clients.  Default: off 
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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread Tom Verbreyt
Hey ho,

 I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
 really appreciate your help.
 I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
 mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
 switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.

You don't mention the relevant specifics, such as what video card you have,
or what actually happens when you try Ctrl+Alt+F1.

I can only say that I've been having the same kind of problem on and off
for several years with my Nvidia card. Sometimes I could switch to console,
then later I could switch, but it was all gibberish, still later it just
made my monitor go out of sync etc. etc.

Lately, however, someone pointed me to the vesafb-tng patch [1], and it
seems to have solved all my problems. :-)

So if you're using an Nvidia card too, I'd say give it a go.

Cheers,
Tom

[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/vesafb-tng/


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mouse clicks and virtual console acting wierd

2005-05-20 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
I've never seen this before...

On a new install, when I left click the mouse on the console, I see:



middle clicking gives:

E EEE

right clicking gives:




The mouse otherwise works good on the console.  It works perfectly in X.

I've never seen this before.  Why does mouse clicking produce these
characters (cut and paste in the console doesn't work at all).

Thanks,
Pete

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Re: mouse clicks and virtual console acting wierd

2005-05-20 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 20 May 05, 10:48 AM, Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I've never seen this before...
 
 On a new install, when I left click the mouse on the console, I see:
 
 
 
 middle clicking gives:
 
 E EEE
 
 right clicking gives:
 
 
 
 
 The mouse otherwise works good on the console.  It works perfectly in X.
 
 I've never seen this before.  Why does mouse clicking produce these
 characters (cut and paste in the console doesn't work at all).
 
 Thanks,
 Pete

I built my own kernel instead of using the Debian stock kernel and the
problem went away.

Nevermind! :)
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kernel messages in active virtual console

2004-02-25 Thread Serge Tensen
Hello,

I'm using a very default Debian 3.0r2 system. Every time something happens 
with my NIC's (plug 'em in and out a hub) this generates a message in the 
active virtual console. In /var/log/messages these messages are said to come 
from the kernel. How do I get those messages from my consoles?
I tried /etc/syslog.conf, kill klogd, read doc's and man pages but I can't 
find the cause. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Greetz,

Serge Tensen

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Re: kernel messages in active virtual console

2004-02-25 Thread Chris
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 22:47, Serge Tensen wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 I'm using a very default Debian 3.0r2 system. Every time something happens 
 with my NIC's (plug 'em in and out a hub) this generates a message in the 
 active virtual console. In /var/log/messages these messages are said to come 
 from the kernel. How do I get those messages from my consoles?
 I tried /etc/syslog.conf, kill klogd, read doc's and man pages but I can't 
 find the cause. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Debian-reference:
http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s8.6.8

quote
8.6.8 Error messages on the console screen
In order to quiet on-screen error messages, the first place to check is
/etc/init.d/klogd. Set KLOGD=-c 3 in this script and run
/etc/init.d/klogd restart. An alternative method is to run dmesg -n3.

Here error levels mean:

  * 0: KERN_EMERG, system is unusable 
  * 1: KERN_ALERT, action must be taken immediately 
  * 2: KERN_CRIT, critical conditions 
  * 3: KERN_ERR, error conditions 
  * 4: KERN_WARNING, warning conditions 
  * 5: KERN_NOTICE, normal but significant condition 
  * 6: KERN_INFO, informational 
  * 7: KERN_DEBUG, debug-level messages
If one particular useless error message bothers you a lot, consider
making a trivial kernel patch like shutup-abit-bp6 (available in the
examples subdirectory).

Another place to look may be /etc/syslog.conf; check to see whether any
messages are logged to a console device.

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:41:32PM -0800, Tom wrote:
 
 I've finally discovered my own perfect working environment: Fluxbox w/ 
 exactly virtual desktops, using the Mouse wheel to alternate them.  
 ...
 It repaints fast as FUCK plus it's all anti-aliased.  I'm sure I could 
 go even more minimal, but I like to call mine minimal all graphical.

Wow, I've never heard fluxbox described as minimal ;-) 

You may be interested in ion(-devel).

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-09 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 06:54:33PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:41:32PM -0800, Tom wrote:
  
  I've finally discovered my own perfect working environment: Fluxbox w/ 
  exactly virtual desktops, using the Mouse wheel to alternate them.  
  ...
  It repaints fast as FUCK plus it's all anti-aliased.  I'm sure I could 
  go even more minimal, but I like to call mine minimal all graphical.
 
 Wow, I've never heard fluxbox described as minimal ;-) 
 
 You may be interested in ion(-devel).

I pretty much use Flux like Ion (mostly no overlapping windows) except 
for transient things.  I don't use vi or emacs so I'm not a fan of 
extremely ecclectic interfaces (yet).  I tried ion,gnome,kde,enlightenment
but I keep finding Flux to be Baby Bear's porridge :-)


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fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Miernik
Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with 
Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc).

Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between 
virtual consoles?

If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean 
resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other 
graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change 
video modes.

Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console 
through a framebuffer it will be fast?

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 11:20, Miernik wrote:
 Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with 
 Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc).
 
 Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between 
 virtual consoles?
 
 If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean 
 resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other 
 graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change 
 video modes.
 
 Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console 
 through a framebuffer it will be fast?

Is there some reason you need to constantly switch to the VTs? Can you
just use xterm instead? That would make switching a lot faster. :)

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 11:20, Miernik wrote:

Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with 
Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc).

Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between 
virtual consoles?

If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean 
resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other 
graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change 
video modes.

Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console 
through a framebuffer it will be fast?


Is there some reason you need to constantly switch to the VTs? Can you
just use xterm instead? That would make switching a lot faster. :)
I guess it a matter of personal prefs, but I find any fullscreen VT app. 
miles ahead of anything on X: as a result I use X for what X is needed 
for: graphics and VT for everything that needs no graphics.

And on switching: how fast (in secs, msecs) do you have in mind? The 
switches do a repaint. I cannot use framebuffers, so my switch, when 
both screens (x + VT) are full takes, 1/4 sec? That's a guess. But 
you're right: the switch to another desktop is instantaneous.

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 01:23:36PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 I guess it a matter of personal prefs, but I find any fullscreen VT app. 
 miles ahead of anything on X: as a result I use X for what X is needed 
 for: graphics and VT for everything that needs no graphics.

I've finally discovered my own perfect working environment: Fluxbox w/ 
exactly virtual desktops, using the Mouse wheel to alternate them.  
Desktop 1: 4 Gnome terminals: 80x25, 80x40, 95x25, 95x40.  Desktop 2: 
Mozilla.  Black background, green text.

It repaints fast as FUCK plus it's all anti-aliased.  I'm sure I could 
go even more minimal, but I like to call mine minimal all graphical.


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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:20:50PM +0100, Miernik wrote:
 Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with 
 Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc).
 
 Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between 
 virtual consoles?
 
 If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean 
 resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other 
 graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change 
 video modes.

Depends what's being slow. It may be that your monitor blanks for a
while during a mode change to avoid stressing the scanning circuits -
most do something like this. If you set your text and X modes to use
*exactly* the same timings you will probably avoid this, though there
will probably be a glitch in the train of sync pulses which might
cause it to blank for a while anyway. If it's that your graphics card
is taking time to regenerate the X display, it's a case of get a
faster card sort of thing.

 Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console 
 through a framebuffer it will be fast?

Only if your graphics card has enormous overhead switching between
text and graphic modes, which is unlikely to be the case.

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Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?

2003-11-08 Thread Kent West
Alex Malinovich wrote:
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 11:20, Miernik wrote:

Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with 
Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc).

Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between 
virtual consoles?

If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean 
resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other 
graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change 
video modes.

Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console 
through a framebuffer it will be fast?


Is there some reason you need to constantly switch to the VTs? Can you
just use xterm instead? That would make switching a lot faster. :)
More RAM?

Faster video card?

More RAM?

Faster processor?

More RAM?

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Re: kernel messages to virtual console instead of to log file/etc.

2003-10-01 Thread Larry Holish
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:41:15AM -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
 Although I have /etc/syslog.conf set up to send most messages elsewhere,
 I still get messages like:
 
   EXT2-fs: Unrecognized mount option bs
 
 and
 
   EXT2-fs: blocksize too small for device.
 
 dumped directly to the current virtual console (when I'm in a text 
 console).
[snip]

This might be helpful:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch11.en.html
 
Specifically, FAQ 11.1.11.

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kernel messages to virtual console instead of to log file/etc.

2003-09-30 Thread Daniel B.
Although I have /etc/syslog.conf set up to send most messages elsewhere,
I still get messages like:

  EXT2-fs: Unrecognized mount option bs

and

  EXT2-fs: blocksize too small for device.

dumped directly to the current virtual console (when I'm in a text 
console).

(This is on woody with kernel 2.4.18.)


How do I find out which syslog facility code or severity level those
messages use (to check my /etc/syslog.conf)?

Or are those messages reported wrong in the kernal (so they can't be 
controlled by the syslog configuration)?


My only syslog.conf entries that don't write to log files are:


*.emerg *

daemon,mail.*;\
news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   /dev/tty8

daemon.*;mail.*;\
news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   |/dev/xconsole





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Virtual console corruption.

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Weir

Howdy all,

A couple of weeks ago, my video card was damaged and, as a temporary
replacement, I'm using an old S3 card in console mode.  This is going
fine, and I've been quite surprised at how well I can get along without
X.

Anyhow, a couple of days ago I started experiencing some console
weirdness.  It started with mutt; all the line drawing (127 ASCII)
characters got messed up leaving my index with just '' characters in
front of each message and no threading.  It is now affecting the line
drawings in aptitude as well.  Of course, like all good bugs, it's
intermittent and I haven't been able to establish any list of steps to
bring it about.

I'm fairly sure it started just after an apt-get dist-upgrade a few days
ago, where linuxlogo was updated to it's new fan-doozy Linux/Penguin
logo.  Another possibility is keychain, which moved it's ssh-agent file
and caused trouble on login until I updated my .bash_profile.  Neither
of those make much sense to me, but they're all I can think of.

Has anyone experienced anything like this?  Or know how I could narrow
down the problem?

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X Crashing when switching to virtual console

2002-01-23 Thread Benjamin Pharr

I am running testing and when I switch over to TTY1 (or any virtual
console for that matter) from X, X nearly always crashes and restarts
gdm. Has anyone had this happen to them and does anyone know how to keep
it from happening? Thanks in advance.

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virtual console on serial port

2001-08-17 Thread Renai LeMay
Hi,

I have an old sun box here (Netra s20), and apparently it outputs console 
data via it's serial port. Now given the cables I have, what I would like to 
do is this:

Plug a serial cable from the Netra's serial cable into the serial port on the 
back of my linux box, and have the display from the sun box outputted to a 
virtual console on said linux box.

What I would like to know is:

1. is this possible
2. how do I tell Linux what to do?

thanks in advance for any help with this somewhat unusual problem,

Renai



Re: virtual console on serial port

2001-08-17 Thread Martin Maciaszek
On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 03:26:45PM +1000, Renai LeMay wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an old sun box here (Netra s20), and apparently it outputs console 
 data via it's serial port. Now given the cables I have, what I would like to 
 do is this:
 
 Plug a serial cable from the Netra's serial cable into the serial port on the 
 back of my linux box, and have the display from the sun box outputted to a 
 virtual console on said linux box.

Actually, it's pretty simple. Just fire up minicom or ckermit.
Tell it which seriel line to use on the linux box. Set the
correct line speed (probably 9600 8n1) and that's it. (Don't
forget to erase the dial-up strings in minicom. They're not
really harmful but could create some strange effects)

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Re: virtual console on serial port

2001-08-17 Thread Rod Beahan
I've only ever done this using hyperterm on a windoze laptop and tip on solaris
but the process on linux should be something like this:

Connect a null modem cable to port A of the sun box and then to com port on
client box.

on the linux box run minicom connecting to the com port you have connected your
null modem cable to with 9600bps 8data bit no parity 1 stop bit.

fire up the sun box with out keyboard or mouse present. this is critical as it 
is
what makes openBOOT use the first com port for console as it thinks you have a
dum term connected.

after a while you should see the openBOOT messages scrolling past on the minicom
display and be presented the login or OK prompt.

if you haven't got a null modem cable in your hip pocket you can make one by
crossing pins 2  3, with 7 going straight through on a brakeout box or similar
HTH
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Renai LeMay was thought to have wispered:

 Hi,

 I have an old sun box here (Netra s20), and apparently it outputs console
 data via it's serial port. Now given the cables I have, what I would like to
 do is this:

 Plug a serial cable from the Netra's serial cable into the serial port on the
 back of my linux box, and have the display from the sun box outputted to a
 virtual console on said linux box.

 What I would like to know is:

 1. is this possible
 2. how do I tell Linux what to do?

 thanks in advance for any help with this somewhat unusual problem,

 Renai

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Re: virtual console on serial port

2001-08-17 Thread Lukas Ruf

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Rod Beahan wrote:

 I've only ever done this using hyperterm on a windoze laptop and tip on 
 solaris
 but the process on linux should be something like this:
 
 Connect a null modem cable to port A of the sun box and then to com port on
 client box.
 
 on the linux box run minicom connecting to the com port you have connected 
 your
 null modem cable to with 9600bps 8data bit no parity 1 stop bit.
 

sometimes, disabling the flow control is quite important

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take over a virtual console

2001-06-28 Thread nico de haer
Hi all,

Does anyone know a way to take over a virtual console once i've logged in
using telnet (or ssh)? is this at all possible?

tia,
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Re: take over a virtual console

2001-06-28 Thread Moritz Schulte
nico de haer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know a way to take over a virtual console once i've
 logged in using telnet (or ssh)? is this at all possible?

Not exactly what you are asking for, but...: use screen.  You can
dettach and reattach screen sessions from different terminals.

hth,
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Re: Virtual Console Messed Up When Switching From X

1998-12-02 Thread Pete Harlan
I have the same problem, also with an S3 ViRGE/DX card.  I can produce
it by stopping and starting xdm.

Running setfont (or is that seT7onT?) restores the vc console
fonts, but it's probably a bug in the SVGA's server for this chipset.

Perhaps it's fixed in 3.3.3...

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Re: Virtual Console Messed Up When Switching From X

1998-11-30 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruchira Datta) writes:

 Sometimes when I switch from X to a virtual
 console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the virtual console starts substituting some
 characters for others.

Try the command `setfont'.

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Virtual Console Messed Up When Switching From X

1998-11-29 Thread Ruchira Datta
I'm sorry if a similar message has appeared before.  It seemed not to have
gone through.

I recently installed Debian 2.0 on my Pentium 233 MMX with 64 MB SDRAM, with
an S3d ViRGE/DX 375 VGA card with 4 MB DRAM and a Samsung SyncMaster 4Ne
monitor (though I don't think the monitor has anything to do with it).
I installed XFree86, running the SVGA server in S3 ViRGE mode, with no options,
at 1024x768 resolution, 24 bpp.  Sometimes when I switch from X to a virtual
console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the virtual console starts substituting some
characters for others.  This happens on all the virtual consoles, not just
the one I first switched to.  I have tried tset and reset, to no effect.
The only solution is to reboot.  For example, the sentence the quick brown
fox jumps over the lazy dog looks like $he !%ick bo'n fo( j%m # oe $he 
la*) dog.  They are all printable ASCII characters from the same font.  It
seems that the text-mode display of the video card is messed up.  Can
anyone help me?

ADVthanksANCE

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How to run a prog in graphics virtual console

1998-11-01 Thread John Leget
Darn, bitten again by updating with slink ;0)

new version of open open_1.4-9 seems to behave differently ive been
using it to launch doom onto a graphics capable console now it just
comes up in its ussual vt7 saying not running in a graphics
capable-console.
Used to run into this problem before i happened upon open

Any help appreciated

Thanx all.


Re: Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 10:25:21AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Is there any way to kill a virtual console without rebooting?
 
 I ask because for some reason I keep getting lockups when using vim to edit
 multiple buffers. I can switch to a different vc and carry on, but no other
 keys work on the vc I started from. Even if I kill the process I was using
 there, nothing works.

Check that scroll lock is not on -- it pauses the console, and that
virtual terminal will appear to lock up while it's on. Using ^S and ^Q
(XON/XOFF flow control) will also trigger this.

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Re: Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-30 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
  Log in as root, type `lsof /dev/ttyx' where /dev/ttyx is the `hanging'
  vc.  This will show you the process that occupies this tty.  Kill it and
  the getty process for that vc should respawn.
  
 
 I tried this but I get the message: 'can't determine system map file path'.
 I don't have System.map on Debian, which I suppose is why it's complaining.

If you compile a kernel using make-kpkg with the kernel-package .deb,
and install the kernel-package obtained with it, this System.map file will
be copied to the '/' directory.

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Re: Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 30 Oct 1998q, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 10:25:21AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  Is there any way to kill a virtual console without rebooting?
  
  I ask because for some reason I keep getting lockups when using vim to edit
  multiple buffers. I can switch to a different vc and carry on, but no other
  keys work on the vc I started from. Even if I kill the process I was using
  there, nothing works.
 
 Check that scroll lock is not on -- it pauses the console, and that
 virtual terminal will appear to lock up while it's on. Using ^S and ^Q
 (XON/XOFF flow control) will also trigger this.
 

I don't think so; I've been caught by that one previously and I watch out for
it. (Actually, on my setup this key prints some information about memory;
oddly enough it was the only key that worked when the console was locked.)

Anthony

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Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-29 Thread Anthony Campbell
Is there any way to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

I ask because for some reason I keep getting lockups when using vim to edit
multiple buffers. I can switch to a different vc and carry on, but no other
keys work on the vc I started from. Even if I kill the process I was using
there, nothing works.

Anthony


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Re: Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-29 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Is there any way to kill a virtual console without rebooting?
 
 I ask because for some reason I keep getting lockups when using vim to edit
 multiple buffers. I can switch to a different vc and carry on, but no other
 keys work on the vc I started from. Even if I kill the process I was using
 there, nothing works.
 
Log in as root, type `lsof /dev/ttyx' where /dev/ttyx is the `hanging'
vc.  This will show you the process that occupies this tty.  Kill it and
the getty process for that vc should respawn.

HTH,
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Re: Anyway to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

1998-10-29 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Anthony Campbell wrote:

 Is there any way to kill a virtual console without rebooting?

As root, kill the shell running on that console.

Failing that, kill the getty as well...

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Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread Shaleh
I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
ideas?


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Re: Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread Paul
hi, logout and login again
Paul


On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote:

 I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
 gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
 I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
 ideas?
 
 
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Re: Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
You can try reset, tput reset and echo ^V^O. I have had most success with
   echo ^V^O

I Hope this helps.

// Heikki

Shaleh wrote:

 I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
 gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
 I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
 ideas?

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Re: Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread stick
 
 hi, logout and login again
 Paul
 

That might not be enough to fix it.  If it's still hosed, try running
'reset' this is usually enough to clear-up most situations like this.
Note: you may have to type it in blind since you won't be able to
see the text as you're typing it.  Also, I don't think you can redirect
reset's output to another VT...it'd be worth a try, though.

 
 On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote:
 
  I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
  gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
  I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
  ideas?
  

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Re: Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread Brandon Mitchell
Try the reset command.  I believe the best results are when TERM=linux, 
but I can't be sure.

Brandon

On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote:

 I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
 gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
 I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
 ideas?
 
 
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Re: Virtual Console is garbaged

1997-08-14 Thread Andy Kahn

- 
- hi, logout and login again
- Paul
- 
- On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Shaleh wrote:
- 
-  I ran grep and it ended up reading a binary file.  Now my console is
-  gibberish -- control chars, escape sequences, and non-printable chars. 
-  I tried kill -HUP on getty, I tried kill on getty -- no dice.  Any
-  ideas?
-  
- 

logging out and logging back in doesn't necessarily reset the
terminal correctly.  a better solution would be stay logged in,
and then do ctrl-v, ctrl-o, and hit return.
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virtual console

1997-03-31 Thread Laudemiro Rabelo

Hi Linuxusers
There is one problem in my virtual console (number one) during the
login, when try do one correction with the tecle backspace appear
^? , if try delect appear ^[[3~ and can't typing enter emerge one 
^M.
What must do?

Thanks 

Vagner Souza.


Warning on non-existant virtual console

1997-01-03 Thread Pete Templin

Hello all.

I now run both of my Linux boxes in runlevel 4 by default, so that I don't
use up excess getty's on the virtual consoles (runlevel 4 only provides
one console).  I just took a look at Alt-F2 and saw this message:

Warning: dev (04:c2) tty-count(1) != #fd's(2) in do_tty_hangup

There's no login prompt there, which is correct.  I don't think I have
reason to worry about this, but perhaps it indicates a problem somewhere.

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-12 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote:

 
 How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
 day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
 command?
 
 Thanks, Chris.

If you are logged in, all you need to do is type 'reset'.  And there IS a
keystroke for when you are not logged in, but I don't remember what that
is, but it DOES exist!

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resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Chris R. Martin

How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
command?

Thanks, Chris.

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Danny ter Haar
Chris R. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How do I reset a textmode virtual console? 

I always reset by sending the vt100 reset code:

echo [cntrl-v][ESC]C
(in brackets are keystrokes)

This resets to default settings.

Hope this helpes.

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 12:28 PM 10/11/96 -0500, you wrote:

How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
command?

Thanks, Chris.

I take it that you mean that the screen has turned to garbage?  Try hitting
^V ^O and it should reset it - works for me.

Regards,

...Karl

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Nelson Posse Lago


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote:

 
 How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
 day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
 command?

 Try reset :-) (no joke, the command exists and does exactly what you 
want; other distributions have it too).

See ya
Nelson

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