Where's man?
Hi, I've been looking around for man package in www.debian.org to no avail. Would anybody please tell me the package where man resides? Thanks in advance, Oki
Re: Where's man?
Oki DZ wrote: Hi, I've been looking around for man package in www.debian.org to no avail. Would anybody please tell me the package where man resides? Thanks in advance, Oki With potato, the package name is 'man-db', and the man pages themselves are in 'manpages' packages. -- Ed C.
Re: Where's man?
On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 03:00:33PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: Hi, I've been looking around for man package in www.debian.org to no avail. Would anybody please tell me the package where man resides? In my version of slink, there is a man package in the doc section of debian main. However, on www.nl.debian.org, it seems to be gone. There is a man-db package (http://www.nl.debian.org/Packages/stable/doc/man-db.html) that seems to provide the man command according to the description. Does anyone know what happened to the vanilla man package? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eindhoven Univ. of Technology Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA)
Re: where's man ??
On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Vadik V. Vygonets wrote: But ae is somewhat broken -- it puts DOS-style CR/LF as EOL :( I had problems with /etc/modules until I installed vi and realized the problem. What version are you running? This have been fixed, as far as I can tell. The 962-9 version does not deliver this behavior any more. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- manini German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). manini (just to be precisian :-) is there a russian ver. ? ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMkRtrQz8DjY6pgpxAQG/qgQAvRWQQXEWRtR2BKSAN1hlZA07zXKBF7lF CmF7Oj6OLfppmrYPFMIBF/ixVH7YAexIE/wF2fmvLQX3bqPSlpZ5aDhmuoM8w6rY gFZR3CT0PpsBs6zS1TPUHsJmEQm37wKOQ9SMvCpgkRFh7kvAhTtJAdL6J0M3906z dj6IRSg1pa8= =oW7M -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: where's man ??
On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Paul Christenson wrote: Boris Beletsky wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfIf you only installed the base system then the only editor dwarfavailabe is AE (Andrews Editor). This was done because AE is dwarfsmall enough to fit on the base disks. I am sorry, but isn't vi designed for that purpose? Maybe it was, but vi, as all good, small programs, suffers from creeping featurism, and the result: [snip] But ae is somewhat broken -- it puts DOS-style CR/LF as EOL :( I had problems with /etc/modules until I installed vi and realized the problem. Vad. ++_ Vadik V. (_`[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arbornet.org/~vadik/ Vygonets (_.lf For PGP public key, email me with sibject get pgpkey Linux hackers are funny people: They count the time in patchlevels.
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Ezio Manini wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). (just to be precisian :-) Oh! where the italian one? I wasn't so precisian, uh? :-) ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/development/binary-i386/doc/manpages-it_0.0a-1.deb and mirrors manpages-it_0.0a-2.deb is coming this week (minor changes). Another upstream version has come, but has only 2 pages more than this, and I'll wait more pages or other changes. If you need these 2 pages (less, lesskey) I can make it. ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
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On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: Ciao Fabri' German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). (just to be precisian :-) Oh! where the italian one? ciao Fabrizio Polacco Bye, Ezio Escape the Gates of Hells, use Linux! *** Ezio Manini fidonet: 2:334/708.6 internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Nihil est tam contrarium rationi quam fortuna ***
Re: where's man ??
This was done because AE is small enough to fit on the base disks. I am sorry, but isn't vi designed for that purpose? $ ls -l /bin/ae /usr/bin/vim -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23825 May 9 06:05 /bin/ae -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 269380 Jan 14 1996 /usr/bin/vim $ I don't think so... -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpifWC8GuD1w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where's man ??
Boris Beletsky wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfIf you only installed the base system then the only editor dwarfavailabe is AE (Andrews Editor). This was done because AE is dwarfsmall enough to fit on the base disks. I am sorry, but isn't vi designed for that purpose? Maybe it was, but vi, as all good, small programs, suffers from creeping featurism, and the result: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23624 Sep 4 18:27 /bin/ae -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root67969 Mar 9 1996 /bin/ed -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 179360 Jul 25 12:23 /usr/bin/pico -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 292428 Aug 10 20:18 /usr/bin/nvi -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1906900 Aug 28 17:24 /usr/bin/emacs For comparison, Slackware has: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 97644 May 22 15:45 /usr/bin/elvis -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin200944 Aug 7 1995 /usr/bin/vim Enough said? -- +---+ | Technical Support Engineer, Cyclades Corporation | | 800/88-CYCLADES (882-9252) or (510)770-9727, x258 | | Maker of High Performance Multiport Serial Cards | +---+
Re: where's man ??
Hi Boris -- You said: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfIf you only installed the base system then the only editor availabe is AE dwarf(Andrews Editor). This was done because AE is small enough to fit on the dwarfbase disks. I am sorry, but isn't vi designed for that purpose? I mean why should ppl learn other editors commands when there is a good old vi :-) ? , at least that what i felt when i installed debian on my system. The operative word here is *learn*. 'ae' essentially takes no learning. A person who never saw it before could use it. 'ae' is useful enough to get your system going well enough to install whatever editor you like. BTW, you can always edit the bootdisk.sh script that comes in the boot-floppies package written by Bruce, and build custom boot disks for yourself that do contain vi. Regards, Susan Kleinmann
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I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... 'ae' comes with the base installation, because it is small and can be used by anyone instantly. No traning required. Now that you have the base packages installed, you'll probably want to fetch one of the more heavy-duty editors in section editors. another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. The man package is in section doc. You'll also need to install the manpages (in English, German (man-NNN-de), and Spanish (man-NNN-es)). Some programs don't have manpages though, so for information on them, you'll need to install the info package. I'd also recommend doc-debian and doc-linux. All these packages are in section doc. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann
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I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... If you just installed the 5 floppy disk base installation, there is a lot that is missing. Only one editor (ae) is installed, very minimal (if any) documentation is there, and so on. You need to install the -rest- of the system (from CD, other floppies (don't know how well that will work, given that some packages are bigger than a single floppy), or over the network. I believe the minimums needed to do an FTP-based install over ethernet is on the base disks, although Bruce Perens would know for sure. another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. what gives?? The man pages and man program have to be installed in addition to the base packages. They are in the doc section of the distribution, in the packages manpages and man, respectively. Thanks, Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice
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There are packages for 11 different editors in our FTP archive (or on your CD if you have one). Please forgive me for not including vi and emacs on the three base floppies - there simply was not space, and our assumption is that a user's first act once they install the system is generally to find the package for their preferred editor and install it. Likewise, there is a man package on the FTP archive as well. The base system is supposed to be just enough to support installing the packages you choose. Thanks Bruce Perens
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: dwarfOn Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote: dwarf dwarf dwarf I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, dwarf there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a dwarf required thing... dwarf dwarfIf you only installed the base system then the only editor availabe is AE dwarf(Andrews Editor). This was done because AE is small enough to fit on the dwarfbase disks. I am sorry, but isn't vi designed for that purpose? I mean why should ppl learn other editors commands when there is a good old vi :-) ? , at least that what i felt when i installed debian on my system. borik ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key. ___ In Linux veritas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia+ Charset: latin1 Comment: Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQCVAwUBMkBhqwz8DjY6pgpxAQHeLwP+L4RXUCj7MCCMsPgX26CE+K59Y+AR9v41 7nfAi4b/kVWXOJKjci4W9m9PSU5xjgj3awbE2OyPdn+ZIuAJcK4BWqoR2Ilyd+Mw V1jMd4MfYj3spOrt1pN8RJrhqWR2oY3fqjeczP+gwnSuvUypXsVziKIj9bwCLH1f oWzH5hk6GZM= =eRdL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: The man package is in section doc. You'll also need to install the manpages (in English, German (man-NNN-de), and Spanish (man-NNN-es)). German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). (just to be precisian :-) ciao Fabrizio Polacco -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
where's man ??
I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. what gives?? Thanks, Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chris R. Martin: I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... I assume you have installed just the base package. /bin/ae is part of the base package. another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! man is not in the base package, because we try to keep it very, very small (but still functional). -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpBJfiYpMSZs.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi Chris, Subject: where's man ?? Author: debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink Date:18.09.96 09:11 I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. what gives?? - Try ae (anthony's editor). The vi clones, emacs as well as the others editors must be installed (type `dselect' or `dpkg -i your_favorite_package_name'. They are not in the base system that you got from the tree 1.44 base disks. - The same applies to man. You have to install the corresponding package. Regards, lazaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... There is at least 'ae' installed and this is documented. At least i knew this after having read the installation instructions when i installed Debian 1.1.6 two weeks ago. This is a very easy to understand editor for the aspiring Debian Linux newbie and a complete limitation and annoyance for someone who would prefer a 'vi' variant which is not installed at all up to this point. But i remember to have been completely helpless in my first steps with Linux one and a half year ago when it came up to edit a file with 'vi' then... another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. Yes, that's true. At least some man pages are installed but without pager this is pretty useless. Well, one could read them with 'more' but... what gives?? In the end after installation? A fine Linux system! I have a smoothly running system now and i am very pleased because of the packaging system. Well, there are some hassles but then, why not? Nothing is perfect! Regards, Paul *8^) __ Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: cp850 Comment: 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' for public key. iQCVAwUBMj/Grugqiw1XE3/lAQEZ4AQAuhZPJnr5w5ChsnMgw6wHUVMf32jA1KsL zNd5tbGeLnsxEx2ANyEJzm+SV1x9hP9v0grdSt/o6ugt9LvI98mMHZ7jeB6QiDI+ h/s4OHT53Wemj4jQ/TsAu1nZb4n8wSLdlLhGSLQ3BxTHMq6c9Ow0+8yI5XuaBxJi Ezzqhl17mT0= =jGFG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: where's man ??
On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote: I just installed Debian 1.1 and I logged on as root. First thing I notice, there are no editors installed. Not one. You would think this would be a required thing... If you only installed the base system then the only editor availabe is AE (Andrews Editor). This was done because AE is small enough to fit on the base disks. another thing... 'man' doesn't seem to exist! Logged in as root, typing 'man man' gives command not found -- and it's not in /usr/bin. what gives?? The base system is only intended as a platform from which you can install other packages of interest. You will find man and man-pages are packages in the doc directory of the distribution. Hope this helps, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
