why no package status feature for dpkg?
Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. It wouldn't be such a problem except that I did an FTP install, and a gnome upgrade, which needed some other things from potatoe (fortunately Quayl has givene up the ghoste). Plus I upgraded to the current kernel from potato because my new hardware runs Linux unreliably and I wanted to make sure it wasn't due to old drivers. Plus I needed some gnome things out of CVS to get the latest version, because gnome developers have this nasty habit of writing their applications to the current libraries, not the stable libraries. So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Somebody remind me again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break everybody else's RPM manipulators? -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: : So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to : anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Somebody remind me : again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the : details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all : others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation : of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I : mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian : and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break : everybody else's RPM manipulators? Sounds like you need to run RedHat. rant People who post I'm pissed off and Debian sucks so help me now messages probably don't get it. /rant -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:31:25PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. Good idea --- maybe a dpkg --check-corrupted to see if a supposedly installed package has been damaged or had components removed. I'm not a coder at all, but maybe somebody else who reads this post is. A temporary hack would be, when you have a man page go missing, do a dpkg --remove package; apt-get install package. Until you need the page, don't worry about it. So who *knows* what I'm running now, and whether it corresponds to anything remotely resembling Official Debian 2.0. Yeah, I was running probably 1/3 unstable for a while. I went to glibc2.1 to use the new kernel and that kept breaking little things, and I finally said screw it and went to a full potato box. Unstable for Debian is pretty stable, though; I figure as long as I don't follow the bleeding edge and only upgrade what's broken I'll be fine. Somebody remind me again how .deb is the perfect packaging format, sublime in all the details of its creation, without flaw in its every detail, and how all others (should) bow low to it. I still haven't found an explanation of why RPM sucks so badly that Debian developers cannot fix it. I mean, xterm sucked so badly that somebody had to create xterm-debian and break everybody's termcap, so why not RPM-debian and break everybody else's RPM manipulators? I bet you'd feel a lot better if you hadn't just been beating this to death for several hours. Get a good night's sleep and a warm meal. Rob -- America: born free and taxed to death.
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 11:38:22AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:31:25PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Why does dpkg not have a way to check the cksum's of the package's contents. I deleted a bunch of man pages, and now I find myself having to write perl scripts to coerce dpkg into releasing the information about missing files. And even then, I won't know if a file is really undamaged. Good idea --- maybe a dpkg --check-corrupted to see if a supposedly installed package has been damaged or had components removed. I'm not a coder at all, but maybe somebody else who reads this post is. A temporary hack would be, when you have a man page go missing, do a dpkg --remove package; apt-get install package. Until you need the page, don't worry about it. Umm, how about installing debsums and read the manpage. Ben
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
Ben Collins writes: Umm, how about installing debsums and read the manpage. Because it's too late? Sounds like I should have had debsums installed from the beginning. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: why no package status feature for dpkg?
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:15:30PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Ben Collins writes: Umm, how about installing debsums and read the manpage. Because it's too late? Sounds like I should have had debsums installed from the beginning. Umm, wrong, most packages come with md5sum, please read up on the docs before trashing out at poeple. Ben
