debarchiver and ehterconf problem at apt-get dist-upgrade woody to testing
Hi everybody, i have two problems. Both are coming with apt-get dist-upgrade. I only want to update the system from woody to sarge. All packages, without debarchiver and etherconf, are installed correctly. The problems: debarchiver: the install progress stops after Setting up debarchiver (0.1.1) .... After about a half hour with seeing that the system do nothing I pressed ctrl + c to stop installing this package. Etherconf comes after debarchiver and shows me the following problem: Setting up etherconf (1.17) ... hostname: name too long Missing end line at blib/lib/ConfHelper.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/ConfHelper/getotherareas.al) line 222, GEN0 line 11. dpkg: error processing etherconf (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 The whole process: apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back: mc 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Setting up debarchiver (0.1.1) ... dpkg: error processing debarchiver (--configure): subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt) Setting up etherconf (1.17) ... hostname: name too long Missing end line at blib/lib/ConfHelper.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/ConfHelper/getotherareas.al) line 222, GEN0 line 11. dpkg: error processing etherconf (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 Errors were encountered while processing: debarchiver etherconf Updating Debian Packages of System Configurations (dpsyco). E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I found out that the problem with etherconf is reported as a bug (Bug#192127). But I don´t find any solutions. Thanks for help. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Best Regards Gosenheimer Sebastian
Re: debarchiver and ehterconf problem at apt-get dist-upgrade woody to testing
W)ireless W)inds Support wrote: i have two problems. Both are coming with apt-get dist-upgrade. I only want to update the system from woody to sarge. All packages, without debarchiver and etherconf, are installed correctly. The problems: debarchiver: the install progress stops after Setting up debarchiver (0.1.1) .... After about a half hour with seeing that the system do nothing I pressed ctrl + c to stop installing this package. Etherconf comes after debarchiver and shows me the following problem: Setting up etherconf (1.17) ... hostname: name too long Missing end line at blib/lib/ConfHelper.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/ConfHelper/getotherareas.al) line 222, GEN0 line 11. dpkg: error processing etherconf (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 I found out that the problem with etherconf is reported as a bug (Bug#192127). But I don´t find any solutions. What if you purge both packages (apt-get remove --purge), make sure apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't want to upgrade anything else, and then reinstall them? Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: debarchiver and ehterconf problem at apt-get dist-upgrade woody to testing
Ok, thanks for help. Now all works fine :). Mit freundlichen Grüßen Best Regards Gosenheimer Sebastjan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam Aube Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 22:23 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: debarchiver and ehterconf problem at apt-get dist-upgrade woody to testing W)ireless W)inds Support wrote: i have two problems. Both are coming with apt-get dist-upgrade. I only want to update the system from woody to sarge. All packages, without debarchiver and etherconf, are installed correctly. The problems: debarchiver: the install progress stops after Setting up debarchiver (0.1.1) .... After about a half hour with seeing that the system do nothing I pressed ctrl + c to stop installing this package. Etherconf comes after debarchiver and shows me the following problem: Setting up etherconf (1.17) ... hostname: name too long Missing end line at blib/lib/ConfHelper.pm (autosplit into blib/lib/auto/ConfHelper/getotherareas.al) line 222, GEN0 line 11. dpkg: error processing etherconf (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 I found out that the problem with etherconf is reported as a bug (Bug#192127). But I don´t find any solutions. What if you purge both packages (apt-get remove --purge), make sure apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't want to upgrade anything else, and then reinstall them? Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste aller unterstützten Raid-Controller für debian Woody und testing
Am 2004-12-06 11:48:16, schrieb Peter G.: Hi, wo finde ich eine Liste aller unterstützten Raid-Controller für debian Woody und testing? In den Kernel-Sourcen... Am anfang de *.c Dateien steht alles Drin was Du wissen mußt. Danke Gruß Peter PS: würde mir gern unterstützte Hardware zulegen. 3Ware :-) Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Liste aller unterstützten Raid-Controller für debian Woody und testing
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Liste aller unterstützten Raid-Controller für debian Woody und testing
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Liste aller unterstützten Raid-Controller für debian Woody und testing
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Repositorio Debian woody e testing
Pessoal, Não consigo achar uma lista de repositórios APT oficiais do woody e testing. Alguém saberia me dizer onde encontro ou me dar uma dica de repositórios aqui no Brasil? Agradeço desde já, Gustavo
Re: Repositorio Debian woody e testing
--- Gustavo Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Pessoal, Não consigo achar uma lista de repositórios APT oficiais do woody e testing. Alguém saberia me dizer onde encontro ou me dar uma dica de repositórios aqui no Brasil? se botar no google: mirror brazil .site:www.debian.org O segundo resultado vai te dar uma lista de todos os espelhos. é esta aqui, ó: http://www.debian.org/mirror/sponsors E o terceiro resultado é o dos oficiais. Paro por aqui, Fred __ Participe da pesquisa global sobre o Yahoo! Mail: http://br.surveys.yahoo.com/global_mail_survey_br
Re: Repositorio Debian woody e testing
Gustavo Lima wrote: Pessoal, Não consigo achar uma lista de repositórios APT oficiais do woody e testing. Alguém saberia me dizer onde encontro ou me dar uma dica de repositórios aqui no Brasil? Olá Gustavo, www.linorg.usp.br (muito bom, pelo menos pra mim) Para colocar no seu /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.linorg.usp.br/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://www.linorg.usp.br/debian/ testing main contrib non-free Se quiser programas que tem restrições (não podem ser exportados para fora dos EUA) deb http://www.linorg.usp.br/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://www.linorg.usp.br/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US main contrib non-free (Nesses dois aí de cima, o non-free é na mesma linha onde começca deb http...) Acho que era isso que você queria... :-) Abraços Nelson
Re: Repositorio Debian woody e testing
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Instalando sarge com 3c59x era (Re: Repositorio Debian woody e testing)
Obrigado pessoal. Agora estou ok com os repositórios. Agora alguém já instalou o sarge com placa de rede 3com compatível com o módulo 3c59x? Aqui na minha instalação está dando erro na procura do módulo. Alguém passou pela mesma coisa? Obrigado Gustavo
Re: Instalando sarge com 3c59x era (Re: Repositorio Debian woody e testing)
Em Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 02:51:04PM -0300, Gustavo Lima escreveu: Obrigado pessoal. Agora estou ok com os repositórios. Agora alguém já instalou o sarge com placa de rede 3com compatível com o módulo 3c59x? Aqui na minha instalação está dando erro na procura do módulo. Alguém passou pela mesma coisa? Sua placa-mãe seria uma ASUS com chipset ATI? Se for, tente configurar no BIOS o boot de rede primeiro. Tive um problema desse recentemente, depois de muita tentativa e erro descobri que isso ajuda. -- José de Paula Rodrigues Neto Assis Linux User 175920 Brasília - DF - Brasil counter.li.org
Mix Woody et testing dans apt? [Was: Re: none]
Le 12538ième jour après Epoch,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait:
Bonjour,
Bonjour
Je galère depuis sur ma debian woody pour installer des packages plus
récents que ceux que je peux obtenir.
J'ai bien tenté de changer mon sources.list et de faire un update
derrière.
Commence par mettre un sujet parlant à tes mails, de sorte que des
gens vont s'y arrêter.
Mais alors j'ai en permanence des problèmes de dépendances.
En somme régulièrement je souhaites des paquets de testing sur ma woody
mais grosso modo si je les prends je suis obligé de prendre toute la
testing avec, si il me faudra passer des heures à résoudre les
dépendances, et encore parfois sans y arriver à cause de mon manque de
connaissances certains.
En fait, si tu souhaites mettre des paquest de testing (ou unstable)
dans une woody, tu auras *forcément* des dépendances à résoudre. À toi
de voir si elles sont critiques ou non pour toi. Personne ne peut le
faire à ta place, mais des paquets comme apt-listbugs peuvent t'aider
à faire tes propres choix.
Que me conseillez vous de faire pour installer par exemple rdiff-backup
0.13.3 de testing au lieu du 0.6.0-1 de woody avec python 2.3 ?
La démarche [standard?|que j'utilise] pour faire ce mix est:
- Mettre dans /etc/apt/preferences des groupes de lignes comme
celles-ci pour dire à apt que choisir:
Package: *|paquet
Pin: release a=distro
Pin-Priority: prio
ou distro est dans {stable, testing, unstabla, experimental} et des
valeurs élevées de prio augmentent la probabilité de choix.
- Mettre dans ton source-list les références aux distros que tu
souhaites mixer
- faire un apt-get update pour récupérer l'ensemble des paquets des
différentes distros
- vérifier avec apt-cache policy paquet ce qu'il va/veut faire pour
un paquet donné
- jouer avec l'option -t de apt-get ou avec la syntaxe
paquet=numero.de.version dans le même apt-get
Si je force le apt-get est ce que je ne risque pas de tout casser ?
Si, forcément, mais ce risque se mesure.
Please ne me ressortez pas le sempiternel RTFM, parce que c'est pas comme
ca que ca donnera envie aux novices d'approfondir leurs connaissances avec
leur debian.
Ok, mais RTFM quand même, au moins celui de apt-get et apt-listbugs et
apt.conf(5) qui seront très utiles.
--
Psychology. Mind over matter. Mind under matter? It doesn't matter.
Never mind.
Re: Mi primer woody a testing
Holas a todos :-) . Pues ya lo he probrado, y me funciona, he instaldo woody (nada de metadistros) y lo he pasado a testing, posteriormente he instaldo las x y gnome (que cantidad de paquetes necesita). Ahora a luchar con los locales :-) El mié, 26-11-2003 a las 10:36, Rafael F. Rodríguez escribió: Holas :-) . Lo probaré ahora mismo, muchas gracias. El mar, 25-11-2003 a las 14:36, Aritz Beraza Garayalde escribió: On 25 Nov 2003 14:41:34 + Rafael F. Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta má s que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. es cierto si tienes una woody auténtica. Knoppix, Gnome Live y demás liveCD tienen un monton de backports, y la mayoría petan al hacer el dist-upgrade. Una solución es que dejes en tu sources list solo las dos líneas de los servidores de debian (nada de backports) y hagas el dist-upgrade. El nú mero de paquetes que tendrán problemas al terminar será minimo. Aritz Beraza [rei]
Re: Mi primer woody a testing
Holas :-) . Lo probaré ahora mismo, muchas gracias. El mar, 25-11-2003 a las 14:36, Aritz Beraza Garayalde escribió: On 25 Nov 2003 14:41:34 + Rafael F. Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta má s que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. es cierto si tienes una woody auténtica. Knoppix, Gnome Live y demás liveCD tienen un monton de backports, y la mayoría petan al hacer el dist-upgrade. Una solución es que dejes en tu sources list solo las dos líneas de los servidores de debian (nada de backports) y hagas el dist-upgrade. El nú mero de paquetes que tendrán problemas al terminar será minimo. Aritz Beraza [rei]
Mi primer woody a testing
Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta más que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. Muchas gracias.
Re: Mi primer woody a testing
Prueba con esto http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1848nIdPage=2 , a mi me jalo bien Rafael F. Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/2003 8:41:34 AM Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta más que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. Muchas gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mi primer woody a testing
Holas :-) . Con esa guia también lo he intentando pero tampoco, la única diferencia que en la guia aparece apt-get dist-upgrade -u, pero yo no la puedo usar (solo apt-get dist-upgrade) ya que uso modem, así que uso apt-zip para pasar los .deb desde mi oficina. Pero por lo demás, todo lo hago igual :-? El mar, 25-11-2003 a las 14:56, Benjamin Alvarado escribió: Prueba con esto http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1848nIdPage=2 , a mi me jalo bien Rafael F. Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/2003 8:41:34 AM Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta más que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. Muchas gracias. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mi primer woody a testing
On 25 Nov 2003 14:41:34 + Rafael F. Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Lista :-). Me he agenciado el cd de gnome2live y sincieramente, me gusta má s que la knoppix, el problema es que esta basado en woody, y me gustaría pasarlo a testing, y problemas. Después de cambiar todos los sources list a testing y apt-get update, quisie actualizar con apt-get upgrade, y me ha dejado el sistema para los trapos. Me desinstala paquetes por la cara como gnome-applet y gnome-panel; eso sin contar que el servidor cups no tira ni para atrás. Pensaba que con dist-upgrade me dejaba el sistema (según los howto y de mas manuales de internet) mas o menos bien, ¿en que me he equivocado?. es cierto si tienes una woody auténtica. Knoppix, Gnome Live y demás liveCD tienen un monton de backports, y la mayoría petan al hacer el dist-upgrade. Una solución es que dejes en tu sources list solo las dos líneas de los servidores de debian (nada de backports) y hagas el dist-upgrade. El nú mero de paquetes que tendrán problemas al terminar será minimo. Aritz Beraza [rei]
Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi máquina es una máquina de escritorio. Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet? Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión Sarge? Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60 MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el método, entonces, cuál es? Muchas Gracias
Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi máquina es una máquina de escritorio. Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet? Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión Sarge? Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60 MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el método, entonces, cuál es? Muchas Gracias
Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Coordenadas temporales: Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 03:04:05AM -0300 Sujeto: Marcelo Fernandez Comunicaba sobre: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los /etc/apt/sources.list sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60 Bien. MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el método, entonces, cuál es? Bajo 60 Mb... ¿Cuando, con que orden? Porque solo por cambiar ese fichero, no actualizas nada. El procedimiento es: -Cambiar el fichero, como has hecho. -Ejecutar apt-get update -Ejecutar apt-get dist-upgrade Todo esto como root y ya tienes Sarge. Más información: man apt-get man sources.list Salu2 -- Windows 95: Ahora para Mega Drive y Nintendo! -- Www.frases.com. pgpIBUqi4QoSt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Si, habia hecho lo que me has dicho: cambié el archivo de sources de apt y luego hice un apt-get upgrade (alli bajó 60 MB). Ahí es donde me dice que unos paquetes de console (common-console creo) no se pueden instalar... Aunque estoy dispuesto a instalar el Debian de nuevo, ya que tengo que reparar algunos errores de la instalación... Muchas Gracias! Saludos Marcelo El mar, 09-09-2003 a las 03:23, Emilio Santos escribió: Coordenadas temporales: Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 03:04:05AM -0300 Sujeto: Marcelo Fernandez Comunicaba sobre: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los /etc/apt/sources.list sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60 Bien. MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el método, entonces, cuál es? Bajo 60 Mb... ¿Cuando, con que orden? Porque solo por cambiar ese fichero, no actualizas nada. El procedimiento es: -Cambiar el fichero, como has hecho. -Ejecutar apt-get update -Ejecutar apt-get dist-upgrade Todo esto como root y ya tienes Sarge. Más información: man apt-get man sources.list Salu2
RE: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Hola, Yo tenia problemas para actualizarme tambien y siguiendo esto tengo actualizado mi Debian a Sarge y el Kde 3.1.3 ... solo me falta el GNOME ... tiempo al tiempo : PASAR DE WOODY A SARGE http://es.kde.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=415forum=6jump= 1 INSTALAR KDE 3.1.3 http://es.kde.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=81 Espero que te sirva ... por cierto si alguien tiene lo de GNOME que nos ayude. Saludos Miguel Corbella -Mensaje original- De: Marcelo Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2003 8:03 Para: Foro Debian Asunto: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi máquina es una máquina de escritorio. Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet? Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión Sarge? Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60 MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el método, entonces, cuál es? Muchas Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
De todas formas el kde 3.1.x no esta en sarge, solo los paquetes de traduccion kde-i18n-xx, yo me he actualizado ayer mismo de woody a sarge, y he tenído que conservar los paquetes del kde 3.1.x que tenía de woody bajados de kde, en debian, estan en sid... puede que en unas semanas se pasen a sarge, pero eso yo, ya no lo sé. Así que, creo que tendrás que tener sarge, con los paquetes creados para woody en kde, mientras en debian no se pongan en sarge.
Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Hola, Yo tenia problemas para actualizarme tambien y siguiendo esto tengo actualizado mi Debian a Sarge y el Kde 3.1.3 ... solo me falta el GNOME... tiempo al tiempo : PASAR DE WOODY A SARGE http://es.kde.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=415forum=6jump= 1 INSTALAR KDE 3.1.3 http://es.kde.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=81 Espero que te sirva ... por cierto si alguien tiene lo de GNOME que nos ayude. Facil, simplemente puse deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ en el sources.list y listo, o si no deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/ gnome2.2/. Todo esto para Woody. Hasta ahora no he tenido problemas. Saludos
RE: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
Eso he visto que no hay metapackages para KDE 3.1.3, tengo que seleccionar paquete a paquete los que quiero instalar Sl2 -Mensaje original- De: Borxa Varela Bouzas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2003 11:32 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing De todas formas el kde 3.1.x no esta en sarge, solo los paquetes de traduccion kde-i18n-xx, yo me he actualizado ayer mismo de woody a sarge, y he tenído que conservar los paquetes del kde 3.1.x que tenía de woody bajados de kde, en debian, estan en sid... puede que en unas semanas se pasen a sarge, pero eso yo, ya no lo sé. Así que, creo que tendrás que tener sarge, con los paquetes creados para woody en kde, mientras en debian no se pongan en sarge. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody para testing
Galera teria como eu usar woody e testing juntos ? como eu faria isso ? Brigado c alguem souber e puder me ajudar ! cleiton
Re: woody para testing
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:18:07 -0300 Agente_Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Galera teria como eu usar woody e testing juntos ? como eu faria isso ? Brigado c alguem souber e puder me ajudar ! cleiton Pegue o apt-how-to em www.debian-br.org, procure Como fazer um sistema misto. Até, semente .''`. Guilherme Mesquita Gondim - semente : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN(ICQ#) 22721986 `. `'` GNU/Linux User #307581, Debian User Brasil #625 `-GROSSERIA.org: sem educação o caralho! Go Debian! Go Anarchism! # apt-get install anarchism
De woody para testing
Pessoal, Tem alguma coisa de especial que eu precise saber antes de fazer a atualização de woody para testing? Uma vez eu tentei e não consegui sequer iniciar o X... Qualquer dica será bem vinda, pois estou aguardando alguém dizer VAI!. Abraços, Daniel Cristian Cruz
Re: De woody para testing
Eu não recomendo fazer isso agora, ja que o testing esta em uma fase de transição meio complicada Em Qui, 2003-06-05 às 15:29, Daniel Cristian Cruz escreveu: Pessoal, Tem alguma coisa de especial que eu precise saber antes de fazer a atualização de woody para testing? Uma vez eu tentei e não consegui sequer iniciar o X... Qualquer dica será bem vinda, pois estou aguardando alguém dizer VAI!. Abraços, Daniel Cristian Cruz -- Fabio Rafael da Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving from stable(Woody) to testing(Sarge)...
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:09:35 -0500 Terry Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a complete newbie to Debian, but also a complete convert. I have been using RH and Mandrake for quite a while but have no experience with dpkg. So, please excuse my ignorance, but how do I move my Woody installation (installed from cd and ftp) to the testing version, Sarge? This outstanding documentation http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html covers the stable to testing in great detail. I would suggest searching the mailing list archives. http://lists.debian.org/search.html This has been covered many times each month. This move is painless. ( So far ! ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
Hi. My main problem is that only KDE3 supports Greek in a normal way (that is without modifications in config files). That is that reason that I am so interested in KDE3. How much time does usually pass before testing becomes stable? have a nice day, Mihalis. On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, David Z Maze wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:10:17 -0500 From: David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: woody to testing Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:13:30 -0600 (CST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am considering of moving to testing as well. I want to ask a few questions before doing this: 1. What are the major benefits of testing? You get software that's substantially closer to the bleeding edge, and is newer than the last stable Debian release. In theory this includes a consistent set of software out of unstable that's been there at least a week and a half and doesn't have serious problems. 2. What are the major problems of testing? It doesn't have a separate security update system as stable does, and security updates in unstable take time to trickle into testing. Sometimes a severely broken package makes it from unstable into testing. I think the actual infrastructure that generates testing is pretty solid by now, though it's had some issues in the past. 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? Not easily. Package downgrades aren't well supported. A couple of people have tried to go back with varying degrees of success; search the debian-user archives for their stories. 4. Which version of KDE does testing have? The search engine on http://packages.debian.org/ seems to think that stable, testing, and unstable all have KDE 2.2. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
Hi and thanks for answering. I know that the main problem of testing is the bugs :-) What I would like to know is how many bugs does testing have? I mean, are the bugs so many that you cannot work at all with debian testing? I do not need any special applications: Just C/C++ development tools, KDE3 and its apps, kdeveloper, anjuta, perl, XFree, etc. What kind of applications have most of the stability problems? As I previously said, the reason that I need KDE3 is the Greek support that is has which, I think, is better than the other XWindows managers. TIA, Mihalis. On 12 Nov 2002, Shyamal Prasad wrote: Date: 12 Nov 2002 18:42:35 -0600 From: Shyamal Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: woody to testing Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:42:57 -0600 (CST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mtsouk == mtsouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mtsouk I am considering of moving to testing as well. I want to mtsouk ask a few questions before doing this: mtsouk 1. What are the major benefits of testing? You get newer software. mtsouk 2. What are the major problems of testing? You get newer bugs. mtsouk 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? Not easily. mtsouk 4. Which version of KDE does testing have? 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-) Good luck! Cheers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
mtsouk == mtsouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mtsouk Hi and thanks for answering. I know that the main problem mtsouk of testing is the bugs :-) What I would like to know is mtsouk how many bugs does testing have? I mean, are the bugs so mtsouk many that you cannot work at all with debian testing? No, testing is probably about as stable as many other distributions. Besides, you get new bugs only when you apt-get dist-upgrade so you have some control over how closely you want to track things. mtsouk I do not need any special applications: Just C/C++ mtsouk development tools, KDE3 and its apps, kdeveloper, anjuta, mtsouk perl, XFree, etc. What kind of applications have most of mtsouk the stability problems? Like I said, I tracked woody from June last year to release. I can't say I had serious problems at any point (the most irritating thing I remember was some sort of terminal capabilities problem for a few weeks). mtsouk As I previously said, the reason that I need KDE3 is the mtsouk Greek support that is has which, I think, is better than mtsouk the other XWindows managers. You can get KDE3 for both testing and stable from unofficial sources I believe. Google for it, or perhaps others on this thread will tell you. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:42:35PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-) KDE3 is apparently not going enter sid until the Great GCC3.2 Migration is complete, so don't hold your breath. There are numerous 'unofficial' (some of which are created by the Debian KDE maintainers and even hosted on people.debian.org) archives out there; join the debian-kde mailing list for more details and discussion. -rob msg12855/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unstabe to testing [was: Re: woody to testing]
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:36:49PM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: Is it possible to slowly revert to testing from unstable by just changing the sources.list and essentially having no upgraded packages found until they have propagated down the tree? Yep. Just point your sources.list at testing, and you'll gradually drift down to the level of testing. Bear in mind though, that some things in unstable aren't going to reach testing anytime soon, so you'll be high and dry with them, not getting any updates at all. Other than that, there should be no problems. If you find you want to keep some things at unstable level (like GNOME2 or Mozilla) then search the debian-user archives for 'apt pinning' to find out how. -rob msg12860/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody to testing
Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:42:35PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-) KDE3 is apparently not going enter sid until the Great GCC3.2 Migration is complete, so don't hold your breath. Actually, it should get uploaded as soon as the g++-3.2 migration begins, since it'll need to replace the KDE currently in unstable as part of the migration. This will happen soon (like when someone figures out what's holding back the migration). -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them! msg12889/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody to testing
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:00 -0500 From: Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: woody to testing Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:30:27 -0600 (CST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:19:00PM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: I am running Woody stable, and would like to move to testing, I know there are some documents, but I'm not really clear on what actually happens during the process ? - edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of 'woody' to 'sarge'. - apt-get update - apt-get -s dist-upgrade [-s does a dry-run] - apt-get dist-upgrade - apt-get upgrade I am considering of moving to testing as well. I want to ask a few questions before doing this: 1. What are the major benefits of testing? 2. What are the major problems of testing? 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? 4. Which version of KDE does testing have? many thanks in advance, Mihalis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am considering of moving to testing as well. I want to ask a few questions before doing this: 1. What are the major benefits of testing? You get software that's substantially closer to the bleeding edge, and is newer than the last stable Debian release. In theory this includes a consistent set of software out of unstable that's been there at least a week and a half and doesn't have serious problems. 2. What are the major problems of testing? It doesn't have a separate security update system as stable does, and security updates in unstable take time to trickle into testing. Sometimes a severely broken package makes it from unstable into testing. I think the actual infrastructure that generates testing is pretty solid by now, though it's had some issues in the past. 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? Not easily. Package downgrades aren't well supported. A couple of people have tried to go back with varying degrees of success; search the debian-user archives for their stories. 4. Which version of KDE does testing have? The search engine on http://packages.debian.org/ seems to think that stable, testing, and unstable all have KDE 2.2. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
mtsouk == mtsouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mtsouk I am considering of moving to testing as well. I want to mtsouk ask a few questions before doing this: mtsouk 1. What are the major benefits of testing? You get newer software. mtsouk 2. What are the major problems of testing? You get newer bugs. mtsouk 3. Can I go back to woody after moving to testing? Not easily. mtsouk 4. Which version of KDE does testing have? 2.2.2 I believe (I don't run testing, and I don't use no skeenking KDE or GNOME so you don't have to trust me on that, but that is also the real reason I'm happy with Woody ;-) Good luck! Cheers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:17:00PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:19:00PM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: I am running Woody stable, and would like to move to testing, I know there are some documents, but I'm not really clear on what actually happens during the process ? - edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of 'woody' to 'sarge'. - apt-get update - apt-get -s dist-upgrade [-s does a dry-run] - apt-get dist-upgrade - apt-get upgrade I would rather ADD the sarge lines, since there are some packages that doesn't exist in testing that might be of use. Then you can add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf: APT::Default-Release testing; /M -- Magnus Therning ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody to testing
Hi, I am running Woody stable, and would like to move to testing, I know there are some documents, but I'm not really clear on what actually happens during the process ? Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody to testing
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:19:00PM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: I am running Woody stable, and would like to move to testing, I know there are some documents, but I'm not really clear on what actually happens during the process ? - edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of 'woody' to 'sarge'. - apt-get update - apt-get -s dist-upgrade [-s does a dry-run] - apt-get dist-upgrade - apt-get upgrade -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
Many thanks to all. I've got a clean, working version of gnome now. Joe On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 08:11:36PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:03:19AM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Andy, thanks for your help. I've been removing ximian packages in my spare time (HA!) and I seem to have gotten them all. a dpkg -l | grep ximian and dpkg -l | grep xim yeild nothing. Now, I'm just not sure how to get the Woody-compatible version of Gnome installed. Thanks again, Joe Remove libgnome32 and gnome-libs-data. I think if you use apt-get --purge to remove these two packages they should uninstall a substantial number of other gnome packages that depend on them. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:03:19AM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Andy, thanks for your help. I've been removing ximian packages in my spare time (HA!) and I seem to have gotten them all. a dpkg -l | grep ximian and dpkg -l | grep xim yeild nothing. Now, I'm just not sure how to get the Woody-compatible version of Gnome installed. Thanks again, Joe Remove libgnome32 and gnome-libs-data. I think if you use apt-get --purge to remove these two packages they should uninstall a substantial number of other gnome packages that depend on them. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
Andy, thanks for your help. I've been removing ximian packages in my spare time (HA!) and I seem to have gotten them all. a dpkg -l | grep ximian and dpkg -l | grep xim yeild nothing. Now, I'm just not sure how to get the Woody-compatible version of Gnome installed. Thanks again, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:11 PM To: Joe Biron Cc: 'Anand S'; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:09:44AM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. You can remove all the Ximian-gnome packages. It may be a pain, but it can be done. Remove any packages that do not install correctly. If I remember correctly, Ximian gives its libraries names that include xim or ximian. Well, it's easy to see that they didn't come from the official Debian package. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Remove Ximian sources from the list, though this won't affect removal of the Ximian packages. When you are ready to do a Woody upgrade, you should only have Woody sources in your list. Then you must first upgrade apt-get and dpkg before doing a dist-upgrade. After woody is installed, you can download the gnome packages. If you are a Linux newbie, patience is your best friend. Just keep in mind, that there's plenty of documentation out there to help you through your upgrade troubles. -Andy Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:47 AM To: Joe Biron Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
I could be wrong (I often am), but try: apt-get install gnome-session This should get you something. In your .xsession, put the line 'gnome-session'. Maybe someone with more experience can let us know the more preferred way? Jeremy -Original Message- From: Joe Biron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:03 AM To: 'Anand S' Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg Andy, thanks for your help. I've been removing ximian packages in my spare time (HA!) and I seem to have gotten them all. a dpkg -l | grep ximian and dpkg -l | grep xim yeild nothing. Now, I'm just not sure how to get the Woody-compatible version of Gnome installed. Thanks again, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:11 PM To: Joe Biron Cc: 'Anand S'; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:09:44AM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. You can remove all the Ximian-gnome packages. It may be a pain, but it can be done. Remove any packages that do not install correctly. If I remember correctly, Ximian gives its libraries names that include xim or ximian. Well, it's easy to see that they didn't come from the official Debian package. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Remove Ximian sources from the list, though this won't affect removal of the Ximian packages. When you are ready to do a Woody upgrade, you should only have Woody sources in your list. Then you must first upgrade apt-get and dpkg before doing a dist-upgrade. After woody is installed, you can download the gnome packages. If you are a Linux newbie, patience is your best friend. Just keep in mind, that there's plenty of documentation out there to help you through your upgrade troubles. -Andy Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:47 AM To: Joe Biron Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 08:29, Jeremy Turner wrote: I could be wrong (I often am), but try: apt-get install gnome-session This should get you something. In your .xsession, put the line 'gnome-session'. Maybe someone with more experience can let us know the more preferred way? I just fire up aptitude, and get esound and all the gnome stuff under Tasks-End-User-Desktop, and apt-get apps as needed. yeild nothing. Now, I'm just not sure how to get the Woody-compatible version of Gnome installed. -- First Impressions are Bunk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
use 'woody' or 'testing' in sources.list?
Should I be using 'woody' or 'testing' in my apt sources.list? I'm concerned that if woody becomes stable, I'll suddenly adopt sid. Is woody likely to become 'stable' soon? -- Rory Campbell-Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campbell-lange.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: use 'woody' or 'testing' in sources.list?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Should I be using 'woody' or 'testing' in my apt sources.list? I'm concerned that if woody becomes stable, I'll suddenly adopt sid. sid will always be unstable. After woody becomes stable, a new testing distribution will be created. Is woody likely to become 'stable' soon? Real Soon Now, we hope. We're just waiting for the necessary work to be done to make security updates manageable for the security team. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: use 'woody' or 'testing' in sources.list?
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:49, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Should I be using 'woody' or 'testing' in my apt sources.list? I'm concerned that if woody becomes stable, I'll suddenly adopt sid. When woody is released, it will become stable. At that point there will be a new testing (as yet unnamed), which will initially be identical to woody but will quickly start to receive packages from unstable. sid will remain unstable and always will. If you want to run testing but not unstable, you should specify testing in your apt sources.list. If you currently specify woody you will switch from testing to stable when woody is released, and you will fall off the edge of the world when it is replaced by the next release. Is woody likely to become 'stable' soon? It's waiting for some infrastructure to let the security team do fixes to all released architectures at once. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.II Corinthians 4:8-10 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: use 'woody' or 'testing' in sources.list?
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:49, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Should I be using 'woody' or 'testing' in my apt sources.list? I'm concerned that if woody becomes stable, I'll suddenly adopt sid. When woody is released, it will become stable. At that point there will be a new testing (as yet unnamed), which will initially be identical to woody but will quickly start to receive packages from unstable. sid will remain unstable and always will. If you want to run testing but not unstable, you should specify testing in your apt sources.list. If you currently specify woody you will switch from testing to stable when woody is released, and you will fall off the edge of the world when it is replaced by the next release. Is woody likely to become 'stable' soon? It's waiting for some infrastructure to let the security team do fixes to all released architectures at once. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.II Corinthians 4:8-10 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: use 'woody' or 'testing' in sources.list?
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 02:56 am, Colin Watson wrote: sid will always be unstable. curiously reassuring, almost in the vein of death and taxes. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:09:44AM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. You can remove all the Ximian-gnome packages. It may be a pain, but it can be done. Remove any packages that do not install correctly. If I remember correctly, Ximian gives its libraries names that include xim or ximian. Well, it's easy to see that they didn't come from the official Debian package. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Remove Ximian sources from the list, though this won't affect removal of the Ximian packages. When you are ready to do a Woody upgrade, you should only have Woody sources in your list. Then you must first upgrade apt-get and dpkg before doing a dist-upgrade. After woody is installed, you can download the gnome packages. If you are a Linux newbie, patience is your best friend. Just keep in mind, that there's plenty of documentation out there to help you through your upgrade troubles. -Andy Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:47 AM To: Joe Biron Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:47 AM To: Joe Biron Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 07:09, Joe Biron wrote: Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Thanks, Joe Yeah you really need to remove all the ximian packages from your box and then install the woody ones. If you leave any ximian packages on there you could be in for some unexpected and nasty surprises. You can do a dpkg --get-selections | grep ximian to find out which packages on your system are ximian. I had this problem and tried just apt-get dist-upgrading and that just brought on a dependency hell where I couldn't fulfill all dependencies and packages were trying to overwrite each other. I eventually just had to wipe it clean and start over with a fresh install. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters, rapper Ice Cube said. But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
What are the packages to install for Gnome on woody? On my woody system, I did apt-get install x-window-system, but twm just isn't my type :-) I've seen that there are several packages (gnome-base or something, etc) that look like you would need to install, but is there an easier way (a la apt-get install task-gnome)? Jeremy -Original Message- From: Joe Biron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:10 AM To: 'Anand S' Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg Uh boy. So how to I rectify this? I do have several packages that are not installing correctly, such as libgnomeprint-data and other packages that are in its depends tree. Should I remove the Ximian sources from my sources.list and then apt-get remove each gnome package? If I do a dist-upgrade after that, will I get the Woody-compatible gnome? Thanks, Joe -Original Message- From: Anand S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:47 AM To: Joe Biron Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:37:45PM -0400, Joe Biron wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks. Don't use Ximian gnome with woody. Ximian gnome was designed to work with potato, not woody. Since you are using MS Outlook Express, a similar analogy in the Windows world would be downloading software for windows 95 and expecting it to work perfectly with windows 98. It may not happen in all cases. Debian has it's own gnome packages, and you should use those. Ximian gnome is postively disastrous for a Woody system. Hope this helps, Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:57:22AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Eventually (in fact it may have already happened, I can't remember) woody will be frozen, outstanding bugs will be fixed as well as may be and then woody will become the stable distribution. Woody is almost completely frozen, nothing is getting in aside from security fixes and bugs that make it uninstallable (like the looping base-config bug that seems to pop every day or two on this list). It was supposed to be released (become the new 'stable') on May 1, but there was some security update infrastructure problem that has held it up for the last couple of weeks. Sid is the unstable distribution, and always is. When woody is released as stable, then all the packages in sid are migrated into the new testing distribution, which will have a new and different name. U, I don't think this is quite correct; at the moment woody is released, stable and testing will exactly the same. Packages will immediately star trickling in from sid again, using the same rules that were used for woody. btw, Sarge seems to be the de facto release name for woody+1; aj made some comment about it, and everybody assumed it was decided, so it looks like it won by popularity. -rob pgpDiX5EwsbzU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:57:22AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: [ big big snip ] Sid is the unstable distribution, and always is. I.e. as the kid next door in Toy Story? :-) When woody is released as stable, then all the packages in sid are migrated into the new testing distribution, which will have a new and different name. Just curious: What will be the name of woody + 1? I've heard sarge mentioned a couple of times, but nothing official (as if there was such a thing:-) Which mailing list? -- Karl E. Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.karl.jorgensen.com ... An rfc2324 advocate http://www.rfc.net/rfc2324.html pgpAvWilkWbca.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 10:21:15AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:57:22AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Sid is the unstable distribution, and always is. I.e. as the kid next door in Toy Story? :-) Yes, or Still In Development, depending on whom you believe. :) When woody is released as stable, then all the packages in sid are migrated into the new testing distribution, which will have a new and different name. Just curious: What will be the name of woody + 1? I've heard sarge mentioned a couple of times, but nothing official (as if there was such a thing:-) Which mailing list? No official name has been given yet, although the release manager has used sarge as an example name in the past. The RM will decide that for sure when the new testing is branched. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
Title: Message Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as "Woody is the newest... you want Woody". Well, is Potato then the "stable" and Woody the "testing"? My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free#deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work#deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnomedeb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody updatedeb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contribdeb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Thanks.
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On 0, Joe Biron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone point a newbie to an explanation of the Debian release universe? A friend explained it to me as Woody is the newest... you want Woody. Well, is Potato then the stable and Woody the testing? Yes. My \etc\apt\sources.list is #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free #deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/non-US stable main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US # added for Ximian gnome deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main # added for woody update deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Looks good. Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. Potato is the stable release. This is the one you can get on 'official' CDs. Woody is the testing release - my advice is to install potato from a CD and then upgrade to woody off the network, which seems to be what you have done. In principle, woody is not stable, as it is still in testing status. In practise, woody is stable enough for most uses, and the packages in potato are too old for most uses. Eventually (in fact it may have already happened, I can't remember) woody will be frozen, outstanding bugs will be fixed as well as may be and then woody will become the stable distribution. Sid is the unstable distribution, and always is. When woody is released as stable, then all the packages in sid are migrated into the new testing distribution, which will have a new and different name. HTH (and is accurate) Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight. - George Gobol Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au pgp8I4NDr4sjQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg
On Tue, 14 May 2002 13:37, Joe Biron wrote: Now, I'm not just a Debian newbie, I'm sort of a Linux intermediabie, and as I edited sources.list, I had no clue as to what I was doing, but nevertheless, I seem to have the latest versions of Debian (3.0?) and GNOME, after hours of playing with apt-get. So I'm happy for now, but I need some background. potato is stable woody is testing sid is unstable Since woody is due to be released any day now, woody is almost as stable as potato. Therefore you're almost certainly better running woody than potato. Once woody is released next week, there will be a new testing distribution (sarge IIRC?). If you prefer stability, leave your sources.list on woody. If you prefer relativly recent software then leave your sources.list on testing. It won't make any difference for the next couple weeks but they will slowly diverge (e.g. KDE3 and XFree86 4.2 will go into testing but not into woody). Corrin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using Woody vs testing
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 09:26:10AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:54:16PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 02:32:51PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? No. sid will always be unstable. I thought the version after woody would be sid... In Toy Story, Sid is the psychotic kid next door. He'll never be stable. Oh, right. I've watched them, but didn't remember that sid was that deranged kid. Recent speculation has been that the next version after woody will be sarge, but it hasn't been officially decided yet. Isn't debian older than the toy story movies? If so, how did they decide on the name before it went out, or did they choose that before the movie came out?
Re: using Woody vs testing
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 02:32:51PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? No. sid will always be unstable. I thought the version after woody would be sid...
Re: using Woody vs testing
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:54:16PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 02:32:51PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? No. sid will always be unstable. I thought the version after woody would be sid... In Toy Story, Sid is the psychotic kid next door. He'll never be stable. Recent speculation has been that the next version after woody will be sarge, but it hasn't been officially decided yet. -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists have already won. - reverius Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Tom Swiss
Re: using Woody vs testing
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:26:44PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: above to this: unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Does ??? equal buzz or lightyear this time around? It certainly won't be buzz, and is vanishingly unlikely to be lightyear, because Debian 1.1 was called buzz. As far as I know, nobody knows what the name will really be, except perhaps the release manager. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Timothy == Timothy R Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: above to this: unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Timothy Does ??? equal buzz or lightyear this time around? Perhaps sarge. manoj -- I came to MIT to get an education for myself and a diploma for my mother. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Re: using Woody vs testing
Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: above to this: unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Does ??? equal buzz or lightyear this time around? Buzz was used for Debian 1.0, or something like that. Last I heard, Woody+1 will be sarge. -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using Woody vs testing
above to this: unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Does ??? equal buzz or lightyear this time around? -Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
Re: using Woody vs testing
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Some time before woody becomes stable, it will be frozen and a new name will be assigned to testing. testing will go on receiving packages from unstable just like it does today. So we'll go from: unstable - sid testing - woody stable - potato to unstable - sid ??? - testing frozen - woody stable - potato There won't be a frozen distribution this time round, as testing can handle similar requirements. We'll go directly from your first layout above to this: unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using Woody vs testing
I'm wondering about the difference between using woody vs testing in apt-sources. I currently have testing in my systems, but perhaps woody might be preferable. Assuming woody (as current testing) does what I need, it ought to continue being sufficient once it becomes stable. What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? I'm sure the answers to these questions are in the documentation, so any pointers (RTFM) will be appreciated. Ken -- Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using Woody vs testing
Ken Irving, 2002-Feb-27 09:18 -0900: I'm wondering about the difference between using woody vs testing in apt-sources. I currently have testing in my systems, but perhaps woody might be preferable. Assuming woody (as current testing) does what I need, it ought to continue being sufficient once it becomes stable. What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? I'm sure the answers to these questions are in the documentation, so any pointers (RTFM) will be appreciated. Ken Start here: http://www.debian.org/releases/ -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User
Re: using Woody vs testing
Ken Irving wrote: I'm wondering about the difference between using woody vs testing in apt-sources. I currently have testing in my systems, but perhaps woody might be preferable. Assuming woody (as current testing) does what I need, it ought to continue being sufficient once it becomes stable. What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? I'm sure the answers to these questions are in the documentation, so any pointers (RTFM) will be appreciated. I'm not sure what others do but putting woody is safer as when woody becomes stable then sid becomes testing. in apt-sources. I currently have testing in my systems, but perhaps woody might be preferable. Assuming woody (as current testing) does what I need, it ought to continue being sufficient once it becomes stable. What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? I'm sure the answers to these questions are in the documentation, so any pointers (RTFM) will be appreciated. I'm not sure what others do but putting woody is safer as when woody becomes stable then sid becomes testing. Eric
Re: using Woody vs testing
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Some time before woody becomes stable, it will be frozen and a new name will be assigned to testing. testing will go on receiving packages from unstable just like it does today. So we'll go from: unstable - sid testing - woody stable - potato to unstable - sid ??? - testing frozen - woody stable - potato to, finally, unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody Does sid (suddenly?) become testing? No. sid will always be unstable. -- When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists have already won. - reverius Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Tom Swiss
Re: using Woody vs testing
At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: What happens to testing when woody becomes stable? Some time before woody becomes stable, it will be frozen and a new name will be assigned to testing. testing will go on receiving packages from unstable just like it does today. So we'll go from: unstable - sid testing - woody stable - potato to unstable - sid ??? - testing frozen - woody stable - potato to, finally, unstable - sid ??? - testing stable - woody I thought they (the developers) were doing doing the freeze a different way this time. Freezing parts of it, instead of doing one massive freeze. I also remember reading on Debian Planet that the freeze has already begun for Woody.
Cd de Woody o testing
Hola a todos! Sabeis si alguna revista ha sacado los cds de Woody o testing ultimos ? PD: Feliz año y Reyes majosss! ab. d88b. 8PYPY88Usuario de Linux Registrado: #132.462 8|o||o|88 8'.88 8 ._.' Y8. MaNCHeGoX - Grupo de Usuarios de Castilla-La Mancha d/ . de Software Libre y Linux dP .Y8b. d8:'::88b http://www.geocities.com/alcazardesanjuan d8MaNCHeGoX'Y88b :8P :888 8a. : _a88P ._/Yaa_: .| 88P| \YP| 8P . / \.___.d|.' --..__)P._.' Linux Forever
Re: Cd de Woody o testing
El vie, 04 de ene de 2002, a las 12:48:31 +0100, Vico Palomino, José Antonio comento ... Hola a todos! Sabeis si alguna revista ha sacado los cds de Woody o testing ultimos ? Hola, creo que la ultima Solo Linux sacaron 1 CD con sid. -- Baltasar Perez (aka 'ponto') | ETSIT - ULPGC Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Woody (Nucleo 2.4.17 con ReiserFS) Linux user: #198228; Machine: #112080; Libranet: #84615 Las Palmas - Canary Islands - Spain good cw is music, Pat Nicholls VE3DZZ
