Re: xdm and startx

2002-11-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
(I had to do some manual attribution-fiddling; I hope I put all the
right words in the right people's mouths.)

* Levi Waldron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021122 11:28]:
> On November 22, 2002 11:05 am, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> > * M.Wegmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021122 16:29]:
> > > Try "apt-get install x-window-system"
> >
> > Kent, I assume that's the equivalent of running tasksel and selecting
> > X-Windows?
> 
> No, tasksel X-Windows gives you an assortment of window-managers, desktops, 
> and stuff.  apt-get install x-window-system just gives you:
> 
> Depends: x-window-system-core, lbxproxy, proxymngr, twm, xdm, xfs, xfwp, 
> xnest, xprt, xspecs, xterm, xvfb

Looking at /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc, it looks like selecting
the basic-desktop task ("X window system") does precisely select
x-window-system for installation.  I'd bet the other stuff that gets
installed is because of cascaded "Suggests:" lines which apt-get ignores.

good times,
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Re: xdm and startx

2002-11-22 Thread Levi Waldron
On November 22, 2002 11:05 am, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> > >
> > >when i typ in startx i get fatal screen error, no screens found
> > >

In 2 recent woody installs, I've gotten this error each time after finishing 
the dbootstrap setup.  In one case (an old laptop) the autoconfigure didn't 
work, and I used xf86cfg to get it work.  This is the config program provided 
by the xfree86 team, and it has the nice feature of not creating a big, 
complicated xf86config file.  It's short and simple.

> > >and one of the shutdown messages is also that xdm is not running.
> > 
> > That means you don't have X installed/configured.
> > 
> > Try "apt-get install x-window-system"
>
> Kent, I assume that's the equivalent of running tasksel and selecting
> X-Windows?

No, tasksel X-Windows gives you an assortment of window-managers, desktops, 
and stuff.  apt-get install x-window-system just gives you:

Depends: x-window-system-core, lbxproxy, proxymngr, twm, xdm, xfs, xfwp, 
xnest, xprt, xspecs, xterm, xvfb


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Re: xdm and startx

2002-11-22 Thread Doug MacFarlane
On 22 Nov 2002, 07:59:38, Kent West wrote:
> M.Wegmann wrote:
> >I installed xdm (apt-get install xdm), but it doesn't work, when I do 
>/etc/init.d/xdm start I get xdm error (pid 239) start xdm 
> >error
> >
> >when i typ in startx i get fatal screen error, no screens found
> >
> >and one of the shutdown messages is also that xdm is not running. 
> 
> That means you don't have X installed/configured.
> 
> Try "apt-get install x-window-system"

Kent, I assume that's the equivalent of running tasksel and selecting X-Windows?

Martin,

You don't have a working X-Windows config.

Log in as root, and run:

XFree86 -configure

This will let X try and build a valid configuration.  The output from this
program will include a new config file in /root, and the instructions for
starting X with this config file.

My experience has been that answering the configuration questions during
the install works best for mouse and keyboard issues, and that letting X
autoconfigure works well in some cases for video modes.  By mixing and matching,
you can get a working Xwindows config.

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Re: xdm and startx

2002-11-22 Thread Kent West
M.Wegmann wrote:


thanks for your help so far. 

I installed xdm (apt-get install xdm), but it doesn't work, when I do /etc/init.d/xdm start I get xdm error (pid 239) start xdm 
error

when i typ in startx i get fatal screen error, no screens found

and one of the shutdown messages is also that xdm is not running. 

any idea what i did wrong this time? thanks Martin

 


That means you don't have X installed/configured.

Try "apt-get install x-window-system"


Kent




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xdm and startx

2002-11-21 Thread M . Wegmann
thanks for your help so far. 

I installed xdm (apt-get install xdm), but it doesn't work, when I do /etc/init.d/xdm 
start I get xdm error (pid 239) start xdm 
error

when i typ in startx i get fatal screen error, no screens found

and one of the shutdown messages is also that xdm is not running. 

any idea what i did wrong this time? thanks Martin



>>I moved from suse to debian, better I am still on the way. Up to now I have two 
>questions. 
>>After the installation (which looked fine for me) i get a text login. Is that 
>correct?
>>
>
>Depends. Debian only installs what you tell it to install, instead of 
>everything and the kitchen sink like some other distros. This gives 
>_you_ control instead of giving control to some marketing droid.
>
>> no graphical login? 
>>and second, if the text login is correct, how do I start windowmaker or kde? 
>>  
>>
>
>You can run "startx" to start X; the particular window 
>manager/environment will be controlled by ~/.xinitrc (or is it 
>~/.xsession? -- I forget). Simply create a file with your favorite text 
>editor (nano, pico, ae, vi, vim, joe, mcedit, etc) and put in a single 
>line for whichever wm you want. For example, for icewm, it'd be "icewm". 
>I think window maker would probably be "wmaker", and I think KDE would 
>either be "kde" or "startkde"; you may need to do a bit of research 
>elsewhere on that.
>
>If you want a graphical login manager, you can
>"apt-get install xdm"
>(or gdm or kdm or wdm instead of "xdm"). You may need to start it 
>manually with a command like "/etc/init.d/xdm start".
>
>>thanks for your help, cheers Martin
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>Kent
>
>
>
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