Re: xfce screen detachment
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 06:31:38PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/01/2024 14:16, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager > > I could get. > > XFree86 (X11 server) had a similar feature a quarter of century ago and it > worked in any window managers. If an application had overloaded GUI that did > not fit to supported monitor resolution (perhaps 800x600) then it was > possible to set larger virtual screen. When mouse cursor touched border of > physical screen, virtual one scrolled reveling its hidden part. Good old times -- I remember :-) Was useful when you had 640x400 pixels... [these days the window manager does that for me, but we have an agreement on when and how] Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xfce screen detachment
On 13/01/2024 14:16, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager I could get. XFree86 (X11 server) had a similar feature a quarter of century ago and it worked in any window managers. If an application had overloaded GUI that did not fit to supported monitor resolution (perhaps 800x600) then it was possible to set larger virtual screen. When mouse cursor touched border of physical screen, virtual one scrolled reveling its hidden part.
Re: xfce screen detachment
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:41:47PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 1/8/24, mick.crane wrote: [...] > > I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel. > > > Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally > remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the > Internet. Ouch. GUI distopia. Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager I could get. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: xfce screen detachment
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:41:47PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 1/8/24, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote: system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor screen as I move the mouse. The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot. My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked on something or pressed a key to cause the problem. I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel. Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the Internet. As Mick says, hold down the ALT key and scroll the mouse rodent's wheel back and forth. I just blew up my desktop background to where it was basically one rendition of the small gif file that's normally tiled. It seems to be for commendable visual accessibility purposes, but it's sure a grouch maker until you figure out its activation/deactivation secret, lol. Cindy :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed * Cindy, Thanks for taking the trouble to post the confirmation. RLH -- He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry ground; a fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein. - Psalm 107:33-34
Re: xfce screen detachment
On 1/8/24, mick.crane wrote: > On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote: >> system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor >> >> I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than >> "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the >> entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor >> screen as I move the mouse. >> >> The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot. >> >> My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked >> on something or pressed a key to cause the problem. > > I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel. Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the Internet. As Mick says, hold down the ALT key and scroll the mouse rodent's wheel back and forth. I just blew up my desktop background to where it was basically one rendition of the small gif file that's normally tiled. It seems to be for commendable visual accessibility purposes, but it's sure a grouch maker until you figure out its activation/deactivation secret, lol. Cindy :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
Re: xfce screen detachment
On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote: system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor screen as I move the mouse. The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot. My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked on something or pressed a key to cause the problem. RLH I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel. mick
Re: xfce screen detachment
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 09:32:55PM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor [...] That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though, panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor. If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports. FWIW, I've noticed that Xfce eventually gets confused about the settings for my display. I don't know what triggers it, but I'll suddenly notice that the display has gone from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080. Resetting it works (under Display, not Desktop). I don't see the problem with MATE, KDE, Cinnamon, or i3. This is on Debian 11, amd64 desktop (radeon 3000 video), Acer 23" monitor. I opened the display settings, but whatever I did did not correct the problem. The next time it happens I try display settings again and pay closer attention. Thanks. RLH
Re: xfce screen detachment
Dan Ritter wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor [...] > That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the > monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though, > panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor. > > If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop > to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then > reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports. FWIW, I've noticed that Xfce eventually gets confused about the settings for my display. I don't know what triggers it, but I'll suddenly notice that the display has gone from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080. Resetting it works (under Display, not Desktop). I don't see the problem with MATE, KDE, Cinnamon, or i3. This is on Debian 11, amd64 desktop (radeon 3000 video), Acer 23" monitor. regards, mike
Re: xfce screen detachment
Russell L. Harris wrote: > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor > > I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than > "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the > entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor > screen as I move the mouse. > > The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot. > > My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked > on something or pressed a key to cause the problem. That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though, panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor. If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports. You might also check if some key is being held down on your keyboard, or if your mouse buttons are misfiring. -dsr-
xfce screen detachment
system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor screen as I move the mouse. The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot. My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked on something or pressed a key to cause the problem. RLH
