Re: xfs and other filesystems (was Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?)

2014-12-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 13 dec 14, 18:38:36, The Wanderer wrote:
> > Serious question - I know it has its advantages for particular
> > scenarios, but I don't know how it stacks up in general-purpose use, and
> > I've never run across an accounting of its disadvantages in a context
> > which struck me as reliable.
> 
> As far as I understand, xfs is an excelent filesystem and should 
> probably be considered whenever filesystem performance can significantly 
> impact your application.

XFS is slower than ext4 on certain metadata-heavy workloads, and faster in
multiple-stream workloads.  It also scales better than ext4 on very big
filesystems.  It is, however, more memory-hungry.

I use it extensively wherever I don't expect more than one crash an year.
Otherwise, I go with ext4 (better fsck).

> I'm preferring ext4 simply because it's more likely to be supported out 
> of the box in most scenarios and to keep my installations as simple as 
> possible as it's unlikely I would feel any real difference by switching 
> to another filesystem.

Agreed.

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  Henrique Holschuh


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Re: xfs and other filesystems (was Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?)

2014-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 13 dec 14, 18:38:36, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
> Serious question - I know it has its advantages for particular
> scenarios, but I don't know how it stacks up in general-purpose use, and
> I've never run across an accounting of its disadvantages in a context
> which struck me as reliable.

As far as I understand, xfs is an excelent filesystem and should 
probably be considered whenever filesystem performance can significantly 
impact your application.

I'm preferring ext4 simply because it's more likely to be supported out 
of the box in most scenarios and to keep my installations as simple as 
possible as it's unlikely I would feel any real difference by switching 
to another filesystem.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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xfs and other filesystems (was Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?)

2014-12-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/13/2014 at 02:45 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Vi, 12 dec 14, 20:07:26, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
>> I don't know how effective this check is though.  But I've NEVER
>> had a dirty partition reported in the past 8 years or so. The nice
>> thing is it is a very fast check. My 16GB / checked in less than 5
>> seconds, and the 205GB /home in about 10 seconds or so. (I didn't
>> actually time this. Subjective estimates.) However, it seemed TOO
>> quick. Never thought about that until today when I actually sat
>> there and watched the whole shutdown-reboot sequence. Usually I
>> don't.
> 
> If you want *really* fast fsck on boot switch to xfs ;)

What are the downsides of xfs, in overview summary form?

Serious question - I know it has its advantages for particular
scenarios, but I don't know how it stacks up in general-purpose use, and
I've never run across an accounting of its disadvantages in a context
which struck me as reliable.

Beyond just xfs, I'd also be interested in the same sort of information
(downsides - or more like really trade-offs - and suitability for
general-purpose use) for other not-so-typical filesystems. I've never
been entirely happy with just defaulting to extX for most filesystems
every time I build a new machine, but the last time I did a build with
something else it was reiserfs, and that wound up having problems in the
long run - not to mention ending up relatively unsupported, AFAIK, given
the fate of its namesake and primary developer.

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