Re: Amarok

2008-12-05 Thread Sergio Bess
--- El vie 5-dic-08, Mario Daniel Carugno [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 De: Mario Daniel Carugno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: Re: Amarok
 Para: Lista Debian-user-spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Fecha: viernes, 5 de diciembre de 2008, 12:01 pm
 El 5 de diciembre de 2008 12:53, Sergio Bess
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]escribió:
 
  Amigos/as, tengo un problema con una Asus EeePc con
 Xandros, ya sé que no
  es la ista adecuada pero esta distro está basada en
 Debian y usa paquetes
  adaptados de Debian.
  El tema es que por una actualización que hice el
 Amarok dejó de funcionar
  normalmente. Cuando voy a cargar la lista de temas
 curiosamente intenta
  abrir el Thunderbird. Desinstalé el cliente de correo
 y ahora se cuelga
  diciendo que hay varias tareas de fondo
 realizándose. Esta versión de
  Amarok es la 1,4.3 pero esta maquinita tiene el KDE
 1.4.2 ¿Será un problema
  de compatibilidad? ¿Alguien sabe de dónde puedo
 descargar la versión 1.4.2
  del Amarok para regresar a la situación anterior a la
 actualización? Quizás
  de esa manera lo pueda hacer funcionar como antes.
  El error de mi parte estuvo en que edité source.list
 y enlacé con los
  repositorios de Debian descargando e instalando la
 nueva versión del Amarok.
  Desde eso empezaron los problemas. Parece que para
 Asus sólo se pueden
  descargar paquetes de sus propios repositorios con lo
 que me hace pensar que
  el parentesco con Debian de Xandros es medio lejano.
 
 No creo que la version de KDE sea 1.4.2, seguramente te
 referis a la version
 anterior
 de Amarok.
 Te diria que desinstales el Amarok, luego borres los
 repositorio de Debian
 de tu sources.list, luego hagas un 'apt-get update
 ' y por ultimo vuelvas a
 reinstalar Amarok, que ahora lo deberia bajar de los repos
 de Xandros
 
 Suerte

Lo que me decís lo hice como cuatro veces y no pasa nada. Me picó la idea de 
instalarle Debian a esta aunque prefiero experimentar con la PC de escritorio 
antes para aprender ya que soy novato, novato en GNU/linux y no me animo a 
meter tanta mano. Asi que seguramente me verán por aá haciendo preguntas 
estúpidas de esas que ponen nervioso pero sabrán disculpar,:)

Ah, me olvidaba. Ya borré los repositorios de Debian y me quedé con los de 
Xandros pero parece que los muchachos actualizaron Amarok y nos reventaron a 
todos. Ahora no consigo la versión anterior de Amarok por ningún lado. Si 
alguien sabe de dónde puedo descargarla les estaré muy agradecido.

Saludos
Sergio


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Re: 407 Proxy Authentication Required; utiliza apt-get tras un proxy ISA con ntlmaps

2008-12-05 Thread David Rios R.
El Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:00:01AM +0100, Ismael Valladolid Torres escribió:
 
 El escenario es el siguiente; situado tras tu flamante nueva red
 corporativa, habiendote sido proporcionada la dirección IP de un
 proxy, más el correspondiente identificador de usuario y contraseña
 para poder utilizarlo para acceder a Internet, la navegación es
 posible utilizando tanto Internet Explorer como Mozilla Firefox. Si
 embargo, intentando instalar Debian en tu ordenador, no te es posible
 hacerlo aún especificando proxy, usuario y contraseña durante la
 instalación. Lo consigues utilizando un CD completo que no requiera
 acceso a la red para completarla, pero aún así no es posible obtener
 ningún nuevo paquete utilizando apt-get. Esto sucede aún si la
 variable de entorno http_proxy ha sido correctamente definida
 incluyendo el identificador de usuario y la contraseña proporcionados.
 Éste es el mensaje de error devuelto:
 
   procyon:/home/ismael# export http_proxy=http://ivalladolid:[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]/
   procyon:/home/ismael# apt-get update
   (...)
   Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable/main Packages
   407 Proxy Authentication Required ( El servidor ISA requiere
 autorización para completar la petición. Acceso denegado al servicio
 de proxy web.  )

Para ello debes agregar al archivo /etc/apt/apt.conf la siguiente
linea:

Acquire::http::Proxy http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port

Eso es todo

 
 
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Dovecot ---auth-- AD Windows

2008-12-05 Thread Michel Vega Fuenzalida
Buenas listeros, deseo configurar mi Dovecot en Etch 4 para que los
usuarios al hacer IMAP/POP3  se autentifiquen a un Active Directory en
Windows 2003 Server.

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Re: Convertir Texto a Voz en Debian

2008-12-05 Thread Felix Perez
2008/12/5 Alejandro García [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Fenix escribió:

 Jaime Antonio Hernandez Larin wrote:

 Hola, quiero saber si existe alguna aplicación para convertir de texto a
 voz similar al TextAloud que corre en el guindows con las voces de
 Loquendo.


   Festival.


   Pero no es comparable con Loquendo.

 es

 amigo no entendí bien pero cuando quiero generar voces uso esta pagina es
 como si usaras un programa pero en la web

 http://vozme.com/

 y te funciona en iceweasel muy bien


Esta web vozme usa festival como backend,

Festival esta muy bien lo llevo probando un par de días y tiene mucho potencial

Suerte

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Re: Dovecot ---auth-- AD Windows

2008-12-05 Thread Luis A. R. Paz

Michel Vega Fuenzalida escribió:

Buenas listeros, deseo configurar mi Dovecot en Etch 4 para que los
usuarios al hacer IMAP/POP3  se autentifiquen a un Active Directory en
Windows 2003 Server.
  


ño, me dejaste loco con eso

supongo que metiendole mano al pam.d y con winbind + samba debas picar 
cerca de lo que quieres hacer .


salu2

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Bloqueo de dominios en Postfix

2008-12-05 Thread Carlos O. Cazorla Machado

Hola lista.

Necesito bloquear el envio de correos a dominios diferentes de *.cu en 
postfix y después de varias configuraciones o bien bloquea todos y pasan 
todos. No se si es la restriccion que estoy usando o la expresion 
regular, el asunto es que no funciona. Aquí va un ejemplo de lo que 
estoy haciendo para tratar que algun colega me rectifique:


En main.cf:

smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
regexp:/etc/postfix/bloqueos


en /etc/postfix/bloqueos:

/[^(\.cu)]$/ reject


Gracias por cualquier sugerencia.

Saludos,

Carlos


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Re: Amarok

2008-12-05 Thread Luis A. R. Paz

Sergio Bess escribió:

--- El vie 5-dic-08, Mario Daniel Carugno [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

  

De: Mario Daniel Carugno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Amarok
Para: Lista Debian-user-spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: viernes, 5 de diciembre de 2008, 12:01 pm
El 5 de diciembre de 2008 12:53, Sergio Bess
[EMAIL PROTECTED]escribió:



Amigos/as, tengo un problema con una Asus EeePc con
  

Xandros, ya sé que no


es la ista adecuada pero esta distro está basada en
  

Debian y usa paquetes


adaptados de Debian.
El tema es que por una actualización que hice el
  

Amarok dejó de funcionar


normalmente. Cuando voy a cargar la lista de temas
  

curiosamente intenta


abrir el Thunderbird. Desinstalé el cliente de correo
  

y ahora se cuelga


diciendo que hay varias tareas de fondo
  

realizándose. Esta versión de


Amarok es la 1,4.3 pero esta maquinita tiene el KDE
  

1.4.2 ¿Será un problema


de compatibilidad? ¿Alguien sabe de dónde puedo
  

descargar la versión 1.4.2


del Amarok para regresar a la situación anterior a la
  

actualización? Quizás


de esa manera lo pueda hacer funcionar como antes.
El error de mi parte estuvo en que edité source.list
  

y enlacé con los


repositorios de Debian descargando e instalando la
  

nueva versión del Amarok.


Desde eso empezaron los problemas. Parece que para
  

Asus sólo se pueden


descargar paquetes de sus propios repositorios con lo
  

que me hace pensar que


el parentesco con Debian de Xandros es medio lejano.
  

No creo que la version de KDE sea 1.4.2, seguramente te
referis a la version
anterior
de Amarok.
Te diria que desinstales el Amarok, luego borres los
repositorio de Debian
de tu sources.list, luego hagas un 'apt-get update
' y por ultimo vuelvas a
reinstalar Amarok, que ahora lo deberia bajar de los repos
de Xandros

Suerte



Lo que me decís lo hice como cuatro veces y no pasa nada. Me picó la idea de 
instalarle Debian a esta aunque prefiero experimentar con la PC de escritorio 
antes para aprender ya que soy novato, novato en GNU/linux y no me animo a 
meter tanta mano. Asi que seguramente me verán por aá haciendo preguntas 
estúpidas de esas que ponen nervioso pero sabrán disculpar,:)
  


Bienvenido a mi mundo , lo que yo conosco de debian lo aperndi haciendo 
muchisimas preguntas tontas como usted dice estimado colega ,

y un consejo sano , no le cojas miedo a debian que el no se come a nadie :)


PD:
con el amarok te sugiero que uses desde la consola el aptitude
o dpkg en modo de purgar para que te elimine de raíz todo lo relacionado 
al amarok para que cuando instales de nuevo lo hagas desde 0.



Salu2s


Ah, me olvidaba. Ya borré los repositorios de Debian y me quedé con los de 
Xandros pero parece que los muchachos actualizaron Amarok y nos reventaron a 
todos. Ahora no consigo la versión anterior de Amarok por ningún lado. Si 
alguien sabe de dónde puedo descargarla les estaré muy agradecido.

Saludos
Sergio


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Re: Bloqueo de dominios en Postfix

2008-12-05 Thread Carmen Marcela Alegria C.
 Hola lista.
 
 Necesito bloquear el envio de correos a dominios diferentes
 de *.cu en postfix y después de varias configuraciones o
 bien bloquea todos y pasan todos. No se si es la restriccion
 que estoy usando o la expresion regular, el asunto es que no
 funciona. Aquí va un ejemplo de lo que estoy haciendo para
 tratar que algun colega me rectifique:
 
 En main.cf:
 
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
   regexp:/etc/postfix/bloqueos
 
 
 en /etc/postfix/bloqueos:
 
 /[^(\.cu)]$/ reject
 
 
 creo q lo haria asi:

 /[^\([EMAIL PROTECTED])]$/ REJECT

saludos,

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Re: Moderacion

2008-12-05 Thread David Francos (XayOn)
On 12/5/08, Alejandro García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió:
 Estimados, he enviado un mail a la coordinacion de listas de correo de
 nuestro querido Debian, ofreciendome como moderador de la lista. Y
 bien me respondieron, me dijeron que consultara por aca si alguien se
 opone.
 Me ofreci, porque ya es hora de que nuestra lista no se siga
 ensuciando ni hundiendo por culpa de los mensajes de spam, los
 mensajes de discusiones de religiones.
 Y bueno, yo tengo tiempo  de sobra, tengo las ganas y la mejor
 disposicion para ayudar.





 amigo sabes que es Free = libertad y esta lista es libre no necesitamos
 un bill gates que decida que tema tratarse en la lista y que es
 considerado span o no... eso lo decidimos los usuarios.
Pues espero que no sean usuarios como tu.
Cada cual se ofrece a hacer lo que puede/cree correcto, eso de un
bill gates...
Ademas, que es SPAM (no span...) lo puede decidir una persona
perfectamente... que es OT tambien, etc. Soy administrador de varias
listas, y de verdad, esa imagen Diabolica de BoFh que teneis no
se... me da que pensar ¿Acaso teneis miedo por algo?
Y esta lista es libre hasta cierto punto, es una lista sobre software
libre, sin moderacion, eso no quiere decir que esto sea una lista
libre, eso es lo que esta haciendo que mucha gente perdamos la fe en
esta lista, gente como tu, que simplemente piensan que la lista es
libre y por tanto pueden hacer lo que les salga de los santisimos
cojones, y por eso precisamente necesitamos moderacion. Joder, perdon
por la mala leche, pero esque es para poner se de mala leche, que
alguien se ofrezca voluntariamente a prestar un servicio y le
contesten de esas maneras, hay que ser maleducado,  desde luego, el
concepto de software libre te lo pasas por el forro de los cojones
¿No?
Quiero decir, la idea en si se basa en la colaboracion de la
comunidad, si hicieses eso mismo mas amenudo sabrias lo mal que
sientan desprecios dcomo ese.
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Re: Moderacion

2008-12-05 Thread Excalibur
On Friday 05 December 2008 22:55:04 David Francos (XayOn) wrote:
 On 12/5/08, Alejandro García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maximiliano Marin Bustos escribió:
  Estimados, he enviado un mail a la coordinacion de listas de correo de
  nuestro querido Debian, ofreciendome como moderador de la lista. Y
  bien me respondieron, me dijeron que consultara por aca si alguien se
  opone.
  Me ofreci, porque ya es hora de que nuestra lista no se siga
  ensuciando ni hundiendo por culpa de los mensajes de spam, los
  mensajes de discusiones de religiones.
  Y bueno, yo tengo tiempo  de sobra, tengo las ganas y la mejor
  disposicion para ayudar.
 
  amigo sabes que es Free = libertad y esta lista es libre no necesitamos
  un bill gates que decida que tema tratarse en la lista y que es
  considerado span o no... eso lo decidimos los usuarios.

 Pues espero que no sean usuarios como tu.
 Cada cual se ofrece a hacer lo que puede/cree correcto, eso de un
 bill gates...
 Ademas, que es SPAM (no span...) lo puede decidir una persona
 perfectamente... que es OT tambien, etc. Soy administrador de varias
 listas, y de verdad, esa imagen Diabolica de BoFh que teneis no
 se... me da que pensar ¿Acaso teneis miedo por algo?
 Y esta lista es libre hasta cierto punto, es una lista sobre software
 libre, sin moderacion, eso no quiere decir que esto sea una lista
 libre, eso es lo que esta haciendo que mucha gente perdamos la fe en
 esta lista, gente como tu, que simplemente piensan que la lista es
 libre y por tanto pueden hacer lo que les salga de los santisimos
 cojones, y por eso precisamente necesitamos moderacion. Joder, perdon
 por la mala leche, pero esque es para poner se de mala leche, que
 alguien se ofrezca voluntariamente a prestar un servicio y le
 contesten de esas maneras, hay que ser maleducado,  desde luego, el
 concepto de software libre te lo pasas por el forro de los cojones
 ¿No?
 Quiero decir, la idea en si se basa en la colaboracion de la
 comunidad, si hicieses eso mismo mas amenudo sabrias lo mal que
 sientan desprecios dcomo ese.

pido perdón por esta respuesta, pero, mis felicitaciones para el gaita!
Y un hígado para el muchacho porque David se lo ha pateado como nadie creo 
yo
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Re: Moderacion

2008-12-05 Thread Fenix

David Francos (XayOn) wrote:


Cada cual se ofrece a hacer lo que puede/cree correcto, eso de un



   Hay propuestas que no tienen demasiado sentido y esta era una de ellas.

   Pocos hemos dudado de la honorabilidad, buena fe y ganas de ayudar 
de este usuario de la lista, pero auto-proclamarse moderador de un grupo 
sin contar con la lista es como el que llega a un canal de IRC pidiendo 
ser operador sin más.




Ademas, que es SPAM (no span...) lo puede decidir una persona
perfectamente...



   Pues entonces quitemos todos los filtros inútiles que luchan contra 
el spam!!  Una sóla persona podrá acabar con él!  :)


   (Yo en esta lista recibo dos, tres mensajes de SPAM. La mayoría de 
usuarios que se registran por error a algún servicio y de vez en cuando 
algún SPAM con todas las letras. El problema no es el SPAM).




que es OT tambien,



   Esto ya es más complicado. La mayoría de los OT que se encuentran en 
la lista pueden llegar a ser incluso interesantes. Son mensajes que 
envían algunos usuarios donde sacan noticias o temas que no tienen (en 
principio) nada que ver con la temática del grupo, pero que tienen su 
aceptación en él.


   Por qué tendríamos que cargar a una persona para que decidan qué es 
interesante o qué no lo es?


   Existen las meta-etiquetas y, si no se usan, existen los filtros 
locales.


   Y para los otros OT que molestan y que son de algunos amagos de 
trolleo el filtro local directamente.




Soy administrador de varias
listas, y de verdad, esa imagen Diabolica de BoFh que teneis no
se... me da que pensar ¿Acaso teneis miedo por algo?



   No es que viene el lobo, es simplemente que un moderador en esta 
lista sería inútil y provocaría tal caos y desconfianza que al poco 
sería peor el remedio que la enfermedad.


   La lista se autorregula. Dejad que siga viva (años lleva ya. :))



que simplemente piensan que la lista es
libre y por tanto pueden hacer lo que les salga de los santisimos
cojones, y por eso precisamente necesitamos moderacion.



   Diablos... debo recibir distintos mensajes que vosotros, porque yo 
no veo tal cantidad de mensajes anárquicos. Dónde se meten los trolls de 
cincuenta mensajes por día? Porque si se mira el historial de mensajes, 
salvo un par de hilos (donde los culpables y sí, he dicho CULPABLES de 
que continuaran alargándose son los propios usuarios de calidad de la 
lista) la inmensa mayoría son de inocentes mensajes haciendo consultas 
sobre Debian.


  Sobre la pregunta que hacías antes, por qué se tiene tanto miedo a 
unos cuantos mensajes OT? Es que nadie se puede controlar y NO enviar 
una respuesta a esos hilos? No existe ese control personal y se quiere 
que haya un moderador para eso!? Qué absurdo.





Joder, perdon
por la mala leche, pero esque es para poner se de mala leche, que
alguien se ofrezca voluntariamente a prestar un servicio y le
contesten de esas maneras


   La mayoría de los mensajes que no veían lógica esa propuesta han 
sido de los más educados. De hecho, el usuario ha entendido que tenía 
bastantes lagunas su idea y hace mensajes que renunció a ella.


   Si hay algún exaltado en un sentido, hay exaltados en el otro. A mi, 
sinceramente que diga alguien que si tengo miedo porque me niego a tener 
un moderador en una lista que sería complicado moderar me puede resultar 
ofensivo. :)




Quiero decir, la idea en si se basa en la colaboracion de la
comunidad, si hicieses eso mismo mas amenudo sabrias lo mal que
sientan desprecios dcomo ese.



   Una cosa no quita la otra. Evidentemente ha podido haber malas 
formas en ciertos usuarios de la lista, pero no veo por qué eso valida 
la moderación de la misma cuando otros muchos han puesto razones 
suficientes para la no moderación.



   Justificar así la moderación sería como si ante un atentado 
terrorista localizado privaras de los derechos fundamentales a todos los 
ciudadanos de tu país en el nombre de la seguridad.



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Re: Moderacion

2008-12-05 Thread KEBRA
Fenix escribió:
 David Francos (XayOn) wrote:
 
 Cada cual se ofrece a hacer lo que puede/cree correcto, eso de un
 
 
Hay propuestas que no tienen demasiado sentido y esta era una de ellas.
 
Pocos hemos dudado de la honorabilidad, buena fe y ganas de ayudar de
 este usuario de la lista, pero auto-proclamarse moderador de un grupo
 sin contar con la lista es como el que llega a un canal de IRC pidiendo
 ser operador sin más.
 
 
 Ademas, que es SPAM (no span...) lo puede decidir una persona
 perfectamente...
 
 
Pues entonces quitemos todos los filtros inútiles que luchan contra
 el spam!!  Una sóla persona podrá acabar con él!  :)
 
(Yo en esta lista recibo dos, tres mensajes de SPAM. La mayoría de
 usuarios que se registran por error a algún servicio y de vez en cuando
 algún SPAM con todas las letras. El problema no es el SPAM).
 
 
 que es OT tambien,
 
 
Esto ya es más complicado. La mayoría de los OT que se encuentran en
 la lista pueden llegar a ser incluso interesantes. Son mensajes que
 envían algunos usuarios donde sacan noticias o temas que no tienen (en
 principio) nada que ver con la temática del grupo, pero que tienen su
 aceptación en él.
 
Por qué tendríamos que cargar a una persona para que decidan qué es
 interesante o qué no lo es?
 
Existen las meta-etiquetas y, si no se usan, existen los filtros
 locales.
 
Y para los otros OT que molestan y que son de algunos amagos de
 trolleo el filtro local directamente.
 
 
 Soy administrador de varias
 listas, y de verdad, esa imagen Diabolica de BoFh que teneis no
 se... me da que pensar ¿Acaso teneis miedo por algo?
 
 
No es que viene el lobo, es simplemente que un moderador en esta
 lista sería inútil y provocaría tal caos y desconfianza que al poco
 sería peor el remedio que la enfermedad.
 
La lista se autorregula. Dejad que siga viva (años lleva ya. :))
 
 
 que simplemente piensan que la lista es
 libre y por tanto pueden hacer lo que les salga de los santisimos
 cojones, y por eso precisamente necesitamos moderacion.
 
 
Diablos... debo recibir distintos mensajes que vosotros, porque yo no
 veo tal cantidad de mensajes anárquicos. Dónde se meten los trolls de
 cincuenta mensajes por día? Porque si se mira el historial de mensajes,
 salvo un par de hilos (donde los culpables y sí, he dicho CULPABLES de
 que continuaran alargándose son los propios usuarios de calidad de la
 lista) la inmensa mayoría son de inocentes mensajes haciendo consultas
 sobre Debian.
 
   Sobre la pregunta que hacías antes, por qué se tiene tanto miedo a
 unos cuantos mensajes OT? Es que nadie se puede controlar y NO enviar
 una respuesta a esos hilos? No existe ese control personal y se quiere
 que haya un moderador para eso!? Qué absurdo.
 
 
 
 Joder, perdon
 por la mala leche, pero esque es para poner se de mala leche, que
 alguien se ofrezca voluntariamente a prestar un servicio y le
 contesten de esas maneras
 
La mayoría de los mensajes que no veían lógica esa propuesta han sido
 de los más educados. De hecho, el usuario ha entendido que tenía
 bastantes lagunas su idea y hace mensajes que renunció a ella.
 
Si hay algún exaltado en un sentido, hay exaltados en el otro. A mi,
 sinceramente que diga alguien que si tengo miedo porque me niego a tener
 un moderador en una lista que sería complicado moderar me puede resultar
 ofensivo. :)
 
 
 Quiero decir, la idea en si se basa en la colaboracion de la
 comunidad, si hicieses eso mismo mas amenudo sabrias lo mal que
 sientan desprecios dcomo ese.
 
 
Una cosa no quita la otra. Evidentemente ha podido haber malas formas
 en ciertos usuarios de la lista, pero no veo por qué eso valida la
 moderación de la misma cuando otros muchos han puesto razones
 suficientes para la no moderación.
 
 
Justificar así la moderación sería como si ante un atentado
 terrorista localizado privaras de los derechos fundamentales a todos los
 ciudadanos de tu país en el nombre de la seguridad.
 
 

Voy a ser breve.

Moderar está muy, muy cerca de censurar. Censurar nada tiene que ver con
los principios del software libre que algunos dicen defender, cuando en
realidad sus actitudes hieren la tan preciada libertad.

Si a alguien no le interesa un mail, la solución mas simple es no leerlo.

No hay que ser mas papista que el Papa.


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Re: Subversion - Controle de revisão

2008-12-05 Thread Renato S. Yamane
PEdroArthur_JEdi escreveu:
 Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática escreveu:
 Porém, faço essa pergunta porque seria um erro gravíssimo de um
 sistema de controle de revisões fazer isso que ele está fazendo.
 
 Na verdade, esse é comportamento desejado. O versionmento é de todo o
 projeto, e não de um arquivo só.

Alguém conhece algum software equivalente ao subversion, porém que faça
as revisões sobre *cada* arquivo?

Att,
Renato


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No Webmin todo usuário é root ?

2008-12-05 Thread Clayton
Olá Pessoal;
Instalei o Webmin e todo usuário que uso dentro dele na verdade executa
tarefas com poder de root no servidor. Tem como resolver isso ?

Vou explicar por que tive a dúvida:
Criei um usuário no webmin, depois dei permissão para utilizar o modulo
Command Shell dentro do webmin e digitei lá:

whoami

O resultado foi:
root

Etão o usuário que eu criei não passa de um apelido par ao root ?
Fiquei na dúvida, tentei o seguinte depois na esperança de limitar o
usuário:
Criei um usuário no próprio servidor ( usuário de sistema, não do webmin )
que não tinha poder nenhum de root e nem pertencia ao grupo do root.
Escolhi a opoção do webmin de converter usuários unix para webmin assim
consegui logar com o usuário que criei no browser pelo endereço do Webmin e
denovo no Command Shell deu a mesma coisa que falei aí em cima, quando tento
alterar algum arquivo que só o root tem poermissões eu consigo pelo Command
Shell , sendo que quando logo com o mesmo usuário no linux e tento alterar
algum arquivo desses não dá.


Re: Subversion - Controle de revisão

2008-12-05 Thread Arthur Furlan
2008/12/5 Renato S. Yamane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Alguém conhece algum software equivalente ao subversion, porém que faça
 as revisões sobre *cada* arquivo?


Porque você não cria dois repositórios, um para cada arquivo?

Se você pretende manter a revisão (aka versão) de cada um de forma
independente, conceitualmente eles acabam sendo como dois repositórios
pequenos. Portanto, na minha opinião, a melhor saída é realmente manter os
dois arquivos em repositórios isolados.

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Re: Resolv.conf dúvida

2008-12-05 Thread Bruno Schneider
 2008/12/3 Antonio Sergio de Moura escreveu:
 Quanto, a dns-nameservers no interfaces ela garante que a cada reboot o
 resolv.conf seja re-escrito conforme descrito no interfaces.
 Resumo: Você não precisa usar o interfaces, a menos que alguém fique mudando
 seu resolv.conf.

2008/7/4 Bruno Schneider escreveu:

 Pelo que eu entendo, o resolv.conf não é mais para ser editado pelo
 administrador, ele agora é mantido por programas de alto nível como o
 network-manager, facilitando assim a troca de redes em dispositivos
 móveis.

Ou seja, existem programas que mexem no seu resolv.conf de forma que
suas configurações nele podem se perder.

Adauto, você pode ler essa discussão de julho em:

http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user.portuguese/browse_thread/thread/4e801eb8d769ae02/d03e7f8b2e2116cd

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Re: Aplicativo X

2008-12-05 Thread Bruno Schneider
2008/12/2 Leo escreveu:
   Ao instalar o debian 4.0 no meu notebok HP PAVILION DV6000 ele instala
 100% sem problema, mais na hora de abrir o Gnome ele fica com a tela preta e
 não sai mais dai, tem como ajudar a resolver isso, só comentando que nem o
 modo texto consigo puxar para mexer no gdm, ele simplesmente trava.


Deve ser problema com APIC. Você vai encontrar bastante informação
sobre isso aqui:

http://groups.google.com/group/linux-hp-pavilion-dv6000

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Re: Subversion - Controle de revisão

2008-12-05 Thread Renato S. Yamane
Arthur Furlan escreveu:
 Renato S. Yamane escreveu:
 Alguém conhece algum software equivalente ao subversion, porém que faça
 as revisões sobre *cada* arquivo?
 
 Porque você não cria dois repositórios, um para cada arquivo?
 
 Se você pretende manter a revisão (aka versão) de cada um de forma
 independente, conceitualmente eles acabam sendo como dois repositórios
 pequenos.

São mais de 3500 arquivos, ou seja haveria 3500 diretórios com somente
um arquivo lá dentro.

O snv permite executar scripts específicos após cada commit?

Situação:
Hoje o dept. de engenharia possui os arquivos editáveis, que são salvos
em um diretório específico onde somente a engenharia tem acesso.

Porém os demais setores necessitam consultar esses desenhos, portanto a
engenharia salva eles em PDF em um diretório público. É necessário ser
em PDF.

Portanto, já que será necessário um diretório para cada projeto, a
engenharia salvaria tanto o projeto editável quanto o projeto em PDF em
apenas um diretório, sendo que APÓS o commit será necessário executar um
script que copiaria o arquivo PDF do diretório da engenharia para um
diretório público.

Deu para entender?

Att,
Renato


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Re: HTB - Controle de banda

2008-12-05 Thread Julio Henrique
Gustavo, 

Tente essa linha

iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ethx -p tcp --sport 3128 -j
CLASSIFY --set-class 1:20

Onde ethx é a interface da sua rede local e a porta 3128 pode ser
trocada pela porta do seu squid. Eu fiz um teste aqui, deixe todos os
cliente na chain POSTROUTING como você disse e acrescente essa regra.
Fiz uns testes e funcionou, todo o tráfego da porta 80 foi ao máximo do
meu link.

Qualquer dúvida estou a disposição.

Abraços, 

Júlio Henrique
LPI Nível 1

Em Qua, 2008-12-03 às 17:20 -0200, gunix escreveu:

 Quero limitar o trafego do IP a uma determinada velocidade.
 
 To usando hoje o iptables para fazer isso.
 com o comando: iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -d $IP -j CLASSIFY
 --set-class 2:10
 
 porem a porta 80 não passa direto. ela passa pelo squid entao a regra
 forward nao aceita.
 consegui limitar pelo POSTROUTING, porem so funciona se eu nao
 especificar o IP.
 
 Alguem pode me da ruma ajuda?
 
 Att
 Gustavo
 
 
 2008/12/3 PEdroArthur_JEdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, gunix
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 1 u32
 match ip src
  192.168.0.2 match ip sport 80 0x flowid 1:20
 
 
  O que to fazendo errado?
 
 
 
 Você quer limitar o tráfego de entrada na porta 80 no IP
 192.168.0.2?
 Ou vocÊ quer limitar o tráfego do IP 192.168.0.2 quando ele
 está
 tentando acessar a porta 80?
 
 --
 PEdroArthur_JEdi
 
 Nunca acredite num sistema que você não conhece o código
 fonte!
 Never trust a system you don't have sources for!
 
 


Re: Subversion - Controle de revisão

2008-12-05 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Em Qui 04 Dez 2008, PEdroArthur_JEdi escreveu:
 2008/12/4 Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

  Cara, num será alguma configuração do SVN não?!

 Não.

  Porém, faço essa pergunta porque seria um erro gravíssimo de um
  sistema de controle de revisões fazer isso que ele está fazendo.

 Na verdade, esse é comportamento desejado. O versionmento é de todo o
 projeto, e não de um arquivo só. 

Estranho isto, eu nunca usei o subversion, mas uso o CVS e ele mantem as 
revisões por arquivo. Ou seja, alguns arquivos são da revisão 1.8, outros 
1.20 e assim por diante. Será que o subversion é tão diferente assim?

Inte
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[OFF] Re: HTB - Controle de banda

2008-12-05 Thread Allison Vollmann

Desculpem-me o off mas tenho uma dúvida,

Se ao invés de aplicar as regras pelo iptables aplicar diretamente pelo 
tc, elas irão ficar antes ou depois das tabelas de controle do 
iptables?  o iptables lista todas as tabelas de filtro do kernel, não 
deveriam aparecer as regras aplicadas pelo tc também?

A[]'s


Julio Henrique escreveu:

Gustavo,

Tente essa linha

iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ethx -p tcp --sport 3128 -j 
CLASSIFY --set-class 1:20


Onde ethx é a interface da sua rede local e a porta 3128 pode ser 
trocada pela porta do seu squid. Eu fiz um teste aqui, deixe todos os 
cliente na chain POSTROUTING como você disse e acrescente essa regra. 
Fiz uns testes e funcionou, todo o tráfego da porta 80 foi ao máximo 
do meu link.


Qualquer dúvida estou a disposição.

Abraços,

Júlio Henrique
LPI Nível 1

Em Qua, 2008-12-03 às 17:20 -0200, gunix escreveu:

Quero limitar o trafego do IP a uma determinada velocidade.

To usando hoje o iptables para fazer isso.
com o comando: iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -d $IP -j CLASSIFY 
--set-class 2:10


porem a porta 80 não passa direto. ela passa pelo squid entao a regra 
forward nao aceita.
consegui limitar pelo POSTROUTING, porem so funciona se eu nao 
especificar o IP.


Alguem pode me da ruma ajuda?

Att
Gustavo

2008/12/3 PEdroArthur_JEdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 1 u32 match
ip src
 192.168.0.2 http://192.168.0.2 match ip sport 80 0x
flowid 1:20


 O que to fazendo errado?


Você quer limitar o tráfego de entrada na porta 80 no IP
192.168.0.2 http://192.168.0.2?
Ou vocÊ quer limitar o tráfego do IP 192.168.0.2
http://192.168.0.2 quando ele está
tentando acessar a porta 80?

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Servidor DNS

2008-12-05 Thread Roberto Torres
Tem alguem aqui na lista com experiência em servidores DNS.

 

Preciso montar 1 no fedora, mas estou levando um baile.

 

Poderia mandar o contato do MSN para o mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

Obrigado



Re: Servidor DNS

2008-12-05 Thread Allan Carvalho
Trabalhei muito pouco com fedora, mas acho que a sintaxe é parecida, se 
você colocar sua dificuldade pode ser que possamos ajudá-lo.

E outra, esta é uma lista pra debian, então, sua mensagem é Off.

Atenciosamente,
Allan Carvalho


Para as lagartixas só posso dizer: treine muito e vire um calango, e continue 
admirando os crocodilos.

O MS Office não consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato OpenOffice, já o 
OpenOffice consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato MS Office, o engraçado disso é que 
é o OpenOffice que não presta...



Roberto Torres escreveu:


Tem alguem aqui na lista com experiência em servidores DNS.

 


Preciso montar 1 no fedora, mas estou levando um baile.

 

Poderia mandar o contato do MSN para o mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 

 


Obrigado

 


!DSPAM:4939242f26991843126559!



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Re: [OFF] Re: HTB - Controle de banda

2008-12-05 Thread Julio Henrique
Olá, 

Eu acho que uma coisa não tem nada a ver com a outra, ou vc aplica os
filtros do tc ou usa o iptables. O iptables lista apenas suas regras e
não as do tc. O comando tc filter ls dev ethx lista os filtros.

Abraços,

Júlio Henrique


Em Sex, 2008-12-05 às 10:22 -0200, Allison Vollmann escreveu:

 Desculpem-me o off mas tenho uma dúvida,
 
 Se ao invés de aplicar as regras pelo iptables aplicar diretamente pelo 
 tc, elas irão ficar antes ou depois das tabelas de controle do 
 iptables?  o iptables lista todas as tabelas de filtro do kernel, não 
 deveriam aparecer as regras aplicadas pelo tc também?
 A[]'s
 
 
 Julio Henrique escreveu:
  Gustavo,
 
  Tente essa linha
 
  iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ethx -p tcp --sport 3128 -j 
  CLASSIFY --set-class 1:20
 
  Onde ethx é a interface da sua rede local e a porta 3128 pode ser 
  trocada pela porta do seu squid. Eu fiz um teste aqui, deixe todos os 
  cliente na chain POSTROUTING como você disse e acrescente essa regra. 
  Fiz uns testes e funcionou, todo o tráfego da porta 80 foi ao máximo 
  do meu link.
 
  Qualquer dúvida estou a disposição.
 
  Abraços,
 
  Júlio Henrique
  LPI Nível 1
 
  Em Qua, 2008-12-03 às 17:20 -0200, gunix escreveu:
  Quero limitar o trafego do IP a uma determinada velocidade.
 
  To usando hoje o iptables para fazer isso.
  com o comando: iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -d $IP -j CLASSIFY 
  --set-class 2:10
 
  porem a porta 80 não passa direto. ela passa pelo squid entao a regra 
  forward nao aceita.
  consegui limitar pelo POSTROUTING, porem so funciona se eu nao 
  especificar o IP.
 
  Alguem pode me da ruma ajuda?
 
  Att
  Gustavo
 
  2008/12/3 PEdroArthur_JEdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 1 u32 match
  ip src
   192.168.0.2 http://192.168.0.2 match ip sport 80 0x
  flowid 1:20
 
 
   O que to fazendo errado?
 
 
  Você quer limitar o tráfego de entrada na porta 80 no IP
  192.168.0.2 http://192.168.0.2?
  Ou vocÊ quer limitar o tráfego do IP 192.168.0.2
  http://192.168.0.2 quando ele está
  tentando acessar a porta 80?
 
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  Nunca acredite num sistema que você não conhece o código fonte!
  Never trust a system you don't have sources for! 
 
 
 
 


Redirecionamento de som

2008-12-05 Thread Paulo Flabiano Smorigo
Oi Pessoal,

No meu trabalho usamos um servidor e varios clientes que trabalham
remotamente via XDMCP. Gostaria de saber se é possível configurar o servidor
para redirecionar o som para a maquina de um dos clientes conectados.
Exemplo: estou no servidor trabalhando via XDMCP e abro o mplayer para tocar
um video. O som sairia pela caixa de som do meu micro local.

Obrigado,
Paulo


Re: No Webmin todo usuário é root ?

2008-12-05 Thread Edson Marquezani Filho
2008/12/5 Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Olá Pessoal;
 Instalei o Webmin e todo usuário que uso dentro dele na verdade executa
 tarefas com poder de root no servidor. Tem como resolver isso ?

 Vou explicar por que tive a dúvida:
 Criei um usuário no webmin, depois dei permissão para utilizar o modulo
 Command Shell dentro do webmin e digitei lá:

 whoami

 O resultado foi:
 root

 Etão o usuário que eu criei não passa de um apelido par ao root ?
 Fiquei na dúvida, tentei o seguinte depois na esperança de limitar o
 usuário:
 Criei um usuário no próprio servidor ( usuário de sistema, não do webmin )
 que não tinha poder nenhum de root e nem pertencia ao grupo do root.
 Escolhi a opoção do webmin de converter usuários unix para webmin assim
 consegui logar com o usuário que criei no browser pelo endereço do Webmin e
 denovo no Command Shell deu a mesma coisa que falei aí em cima, quando tento
 alterar algum arquivo que só o root tem poermissões eu consigo pelo Command
 Shell , sendo que quando logo com o mesmo usuário no linux e tento alterar
 algum arquivo desses não dá.

Eu nunca usei Webmim, mas, pelo o que você está descrevendo, parece-me
o seguinte.

O Webmim roda como root, afinal ele precisa executar várias tarefas
que só o root pode (reiniciar serviços, alterar configurações,
ligar/desligar, enfim), já que ele é um front-end de controle
supostamente total da máquina.
A autenticação que você possa ter nele está em outra camada, não é a
autenticação do usuário Unix. Quero dizer, quando você faz login nele,
não deve ser lançado um outro processo cujo dono seja esse usuário
logado. Você apenas abre uma sessão ou cookie, ou seja lá o que for,
no sistema e tem disponível as funções que ele permite. Mas, de
qualquer forma, o processo que está rodando e que executa os
comandos/programas é de propriedade do usuário root.

Creio que você confundiu duas coisas distintas, que é o dono do
processo no sistema, e o usuário da autenticação da ferramenta, que
não se relaciona diretamente com os usuários do sistema. (O fato de
você ter importado os usuário unix não quer dizer que você está
unificando essa autenticação, você apenas copiou de lá pra cá.)

Ou seja, uma coisa é uma coisa, outra coisa é outra coisa. =P

Eu não conheço o webmim, a não ser de ouvir falar. Não sei como ele
lida com esse shell que ele fornece pro usuário, mas se ele roda o
processo do shell com o mesmo que roda seu próprio daemon, no caso o
root, então realmente fica meio complicado.

Como eu disse, tô tirando conclusão em cima de algo que eu não conheço
de perto, já que ninguém com conhecimento de causa te respondeu até
agora.
Espero que posso ser útil em esclarecer algo, e me perdooe se estiver
falando alguma grande bobagem.

Boa sorte. ;)

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Registrar acessos IPTABLES num log

2008-12-05 Thread hamacker
Tenho uma regra assim :
$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j MASQUERADE

que libera o acesso do IP 192.168.1.50 a rede externa, no entanto,
gostaria de jogar todos os acessos desse IP num arquivo texto também.
Isso é possivel ?


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[DUP] Comando para limpar lixeira após logoff no Gnome

2008-12-05 Thread Ataliba Neto
Salve!

Gostaria de saber como faço pra que quando um usuário fizer um logoff a sua
lixeira seja limpada nesse momento. Tem alguma configuração no Gnome que faz
isso, gconf...

Quero evitar os comandos:
rm -rf $USER/.Trash/*

Grato,
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Re: Registrar acessos IPTABLES num log

2008-12-05 Thread Allan Carvalho

$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j LOG
$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j 
MASQUERADE


Atenciosamente,
Allan Carvalho


Para as lagartixas só posso dizer: treine muito e vire um calango, e continue 
admirando os crocodilos.

O MS Office não consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato OpenOffice, já o 
OpenOffice consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato MS Office, o engraçado disso é que 
é o OpenOffice que não presta...



hamacker escreveu:

Tenho uma regra assim :
$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j MASQUERADE

que libera o acesso do IP 192.168.1.50 a rede externa, no entanto,
gostaria de jogar todos os acessos desse IP num arquivo texto também.
Isso é possivel ?


  


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Re: Registrar acessos IPTABLES num log

2008-12-05 Thread Allan Carvalho

Você pode adicionar no seu /etc/syslog.conf

*.=alert -/var/log/iptables-192.168.1.50.log

e depois reinicie o syslog
/etc/init.d/syslog restart

Atenciosamente,
Allan Carvalho

Para as lagartixas só posso dizer: treine muito e vire um calango, e continue 
admirando os crocodilos.

O MS Office não consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato OpenOffice, já o 
OpenOffice consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato MS Office, o engraçado disso é que 
é o OpenOffice que não presta...



hamacker escreveu:

Sim, mas isso vai registrar no log geral, não ?
teria como informar que eu gostaria que o historico fosse parar em
/var/log/iptables-192.168.1.50.log ?

2008/12/5 Allan Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j LOG
$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j
MASQUERADE








  


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Re: Redirecionamento de som

2008-12-05 Thread PEdroArthur_JEdi
Talvez sua resposta esteja aqui:

http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound

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KVM + Win2K Server

2008-12-05 Thread Fábio Rabelo

Boa tarde ...
Estou tentando instalar um rWin2000 Server dentro de uma VM usando o KVM 
sem sucesso !

Plataforma é o Lenny em AMD 64 ( Phenom quad core ) 8 GB de RAM .
O próprio Lenny instala em uma VM do KVM sem problemas, e já testei 
também Ubuntu e Etch, tudo sem problemas ...
O instalador do 2Kserver roda sem problemas, todas as menssagens 
aparecem durante a instalação, o primeiro reboot também vai OK, entra o 
instalador gráfico, número de série, teclado e etc, vai até o segundo 
reboot, e aí ao invés de efetuar o boot no sistema instalado ele volta 
ao instalador gráfico, e denovo, e denovo, loop infinito ...

Alguém já tentou esta combinação ?!?
Não encontrei muita documentação sobre 2K em cima do KVM, encontrei 
muita documentação de XP sobre o KVM .

Alguém conhece algum tutorial que funcione ?
Tentei estes :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986442
http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/tip-how-setup-windows-guest-paravirtual-network-drivers
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/KVM

Em tempo, eu usei o pacote do KVM do repositório do Lenny, não compilei 
nada, pode ser que a versão 0.72 não seja compatível ?!?


agradeço antecipadamente qualquer ajuda ...

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Re: Registrar acessos IPTABLES num log

2008-12-05 Thread Allan Carvalho

Só uma correção:

$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j LOG 
--log-level 1


Se você não colocar o --log-level, ele vai ficar como critical...


Atenciosamente,
Allan Carvalho

Para as lagartixas só posso dizer: treine muito e vire um calango, e continue 
admirando os crocodilos.

O MS Office não consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato OpenOffice, já o 
OpenOffice consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato MS Office, o engraçado disso é que 
é o OpenOffice que não presta...



Allan Carvalho escreveu:

Você pode adicionar no seu /etc/syslog.conf

*.=alert -/var/log/iptables-192.168.1.50.log

e depois reinicie o syslog
/etc/init.d/syslog restart

Atenciosamente,
Allan Carvalho

Para as lagartixas só posso dizer: treine muito e vire um calango, e 
continue admirando os crocodilos.


O MS Office não consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato 
OpenOffice, já o OpenOffice consegue ler os arquivos salvos em formato 
MS Office, o engraçado disso é que é o OpenOffice que não presta...




hamacker escreveu:

Sim, mas isso vai registrar no log geral, não ?
teria como informar que eu gostaria que o historico fosse parar em
/var/log/iptables-192.168.1.50.log ?

2008/12/5 Allan Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j LOG
$IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.50/32 -o $EXTERNAL -j
MASQUERADE








  








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Re: [DUP] Comando para limpar lixeira após logoff no Gnome

2008-12-05 Thread Gunther Furtado
Olá,


2008/12/5 Ataliba Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Salve!

 Gostaria de saber como faço pra que quando um usuário fizer um logoff a sua
 lixeira seja limpada nesse momento. Tem alguma configuração no Gnome que faz
 isso, gconf...

Até onde eu sei, não!

 Quero evitar os comandos:
 rm -rf $USER/.Trash/*


A saída mais espertinha que eu vi foi fazer um script com o comando
acima (este que você quer evitar) na lista de aplicativos que rodam na
inicialização do Gnome. Não apaga antes de sair, mas durante a
entrada.

Abraço,

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Scalix

2008-12-05 Thread Roberto Torres
Boa tarde

 

Alguem da lista já utilzou o software Scalix 

 

 

obrigado



Re: Scalix

2008-12-05 Thread hamacker
Nao.
Tem que ser fã do Asterix  e  Obelix  para usa-lo ? ou tomar algum
tipo de poção  :)

2008/12/5 Roberto Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Boa tarde



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Re: Renderização ruim no epiphany-gecko e iceweasel

2008-12-05 Thread edutiao
 ii  libcairo2  1.6.4-6.1 The Cairo 2D
vector

Your problem was a cairo bug. Please upgrade to version 1.6.4-7.

Mike


Pois é um bug na libcairo2. 

Abraços,
Tião

Em Qua, 2008-12-03 às 19:15 -0200, Fabiano Manoel de Andrade escreveu:
   Olá Tião.
 
 Em Qua, 2008-12-03 às 11:58 -0430, edutiao escreveu:
  Olá [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  
  Já a tempos tanto o Iceweasel como o epiphany-gecko renderizam errado as
  imagens de background repetidas. Isso é bem chato porque atrapalha
  bastante a leitura e, às vezes, a visualização da página em si!
  
  Não acontece em toda página web, mas por exemplo no slashdot sim, no
  xkcd também, e ambos podem ser validados pelo teste w3c, assim q não é
  culpa do html deles.
  
  Alguém sabe o que pode ser, devo enviar um bug-report? Pode ser uma
  questão de taxa de atualização do meu monitor (laptop, 60hz como deveria
  ser, autodetectado nunca mexi)? Não posso precisar exatamente quando surgiu 
  esse comportamento.
  
  debian lenny, epiphany-gecko 2.22.3-8+b1 o laptop é um dell inspiron 1525. 
  
  Grato.
  Tião
  
   Eu também tenho um dell inspiron 1525 e acontece exatamente o mesmo
 problema.
   Abraço.
   Fabiano.
 


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Postfix nao entrega o email no local correto

2008-12-05 Thread Leandro Moreira

Caros,
Estou configurando um servidor de email com postfix, ele esta enviando e
recebendo emails sem problemas, mas esta acontecendo uma coisa estranha,
tenho um usuário na maquina, quanto envio email de qualquer usuário, ele
manda o email para o home desse usuário, configurei o postfix da seguinte
maneira:


home_mailbox = Maildir/
mail_spool_directory = /home/vmail/DOMINIO


Para teste movi home desse usuário ao enviar um email recebo a seguinte
mensage:

Dec  5 19:24:43 mail postfix/local[6916]: B6DA63806D:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local,
delay=0.11, delays=0.06/0/0/0.05, dsn=5.2.0, status=bounced (maildir
delivery failed: create maildir file
/home/lmoreira/Maildir/tmp/1228512283.P6916.mail: Permission denied)
Dec  5 19:24:43 mail postfix/qmgr[6908]: B6DA63806D: remove

Ele da permissao negada pois o home nao existe, ele deveira esta mandando a
mensagem para /home/vmail/DOMINIO/USUARIO.
Agradeço se alguem puder me ajudar.

Att

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Re: Scalix

2008-12-05 Thread Ismael Scalcon
Nao, pelo que eu vi na internet se trata de um servidor de e-mail,
calendários e colaboração para linux com suporte ao MS Outlook. O
software parece ser bem interessante, mas trabalha daquele jeito
free-comercial, isso é, eles dão uma versão capada gratuita (com a
vantagem de disponibilizarem os fontes) e depois usam as melhorias
criadas pela comunidade na versão paga.
Nada contra o modelo de negócio, mas  problema é que, pelo que eu vi,
os usuários premium, que são os que tem suporte às coisas legais, são
licenciados, e vem só 10 na versão free. E ainda por cima nem são os
melhores, porque pelo que eu vi tem os usuarios premium premium, que
só tem nas versões pagas.


Mas, fora isso, pareceu um produto bem bom e que eu não conhecia. Só a
pergunta que eu faço ao Roberto, se ele por acaso já usou esse
software, é: se eu compilar ele a partir dos fontes, eu posso criar
quantos usuários premium eu quiser? Se a resposta for positiva, vai
valer a pena dar uma olhada...


De mais, obrigado pela dica e eu sinto muito nao poder ajudar, mas é
que eu nem sabia da existência desse software.

2008/12/5 hamacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nao.
 Tem que ser fã do Asterix  e  Obelix  para usa-lo ? ou tomar algum
 tipo de poção  :)

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 Boa tarde



 Alguem da lista já utilzou o software Scalix 





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Sound preview w/Nautilus

2008-12-05 Thread Chris
Greetings,

Oh buggers... What must I have installed/running to have sound preview
of mp3's within Nautilus (Lenny).

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Re: sshd in Vserver not working

2008-12-05 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:54:24PM +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Hi list,

I cannot get sshd in a vserver to accept ssh connections. I have set
both the host and guest ip to their appropriate values (I have a
different ip for the guest and server). The network config seems fine,
as apache runs fine on both host and guest.
When I try to login, I get the following output


Have you set (in sshd_config) the sshd to only listen on its own IP 
address?




Yes, I did set it on both the host and the guest.

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Re: sshd in Vserver not working

2008-12-05 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Sjoerd Hardeman:

ssh -vvv 10.1.1.14
OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-3, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to 10.1.1.14 [10.1.1.14] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0


Are you logging in as root? Does the server allow this?
Yes, but it is still a brand new install so root-login is allowed. And, 
logging in as another user also gives the same problem


Did you restrict access to the server in /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}?
Unfortunately, it is a remote machine, and somebody shut it down. Yet, 
as it is a brand new install, I don't suspect anything to be in the 
/etc/hosts.* files.


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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread Neil
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 after switching from i386 to x86_64, my software RAID-1 partitions
 were not discovered automatically as they should have been. It seems
 that the physical devices (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb) have UUIDs stored
 from when I first tried to create the array, and that may have
 confused the automatic detection.

 My first try (a couple years ago, when the disks were new) had been to
 create a RAID-1 from the two disks and to partition that array later
 as needed. But that didn't work, so I created partitions on the disks
 and then created RAID-1 arrays from these partitions. Now it looks like this:


snip

 Note that the physical devices /dev/sda and /dev/sdb have UUIDs
 stored. How do I remove these UUIDs?


You can't. The UUID is calculated out of the properties of the disk
(dunno wich exactly). It's like trying to remove the MD5 checsum of
something: you can't.

However: your problem will be solvable and the guys who know how to do
this are already busy.

Neil

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Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Terrence Brannon

Alex Samad wrote:

On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 10:35:42PM -0500, Terrence Brannon wrote:

For some reason, tomcat5.5 will not start on port 8180 as documented.

  


what does a netstat -panel | grep 8180 releveal
  


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# cat tomcat
#!/bin/bash -x

export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/

/usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# ./tomcat
+ export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
+ JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
+ /usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin/startup.sh
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /usr/share/tomcat5.5
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat5.5
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat5.5/temp
Using JRE_HOME:   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# netstat -panel | grep 8180
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# ls -lart /var/log/tomcat5.5/
total 11
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root3072 Dec  4 13:48 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 tomcat55 nogroup  658 Dec  4 16:25 catalina_2008-12-04.log
-rw-r--r--  1 tomcat55 nogroup  288 Dec  4 21:23 catalina_2008-12-05.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 manager.2008-12-04.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 localhost.2008-12-04.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 host-manager.2008-12-04.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 admin.2008-12-04.log
drwxr-x---  2 tomcat55 adm 1024 Dec  4 21:58 .
-rw-r--r--  1 root root4563 Dec  4 22:24 catalina.2008-12-04.log
prwx--  1 tomcat55 root   0 Dec  5 04:16 catalina.out
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Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 04:17:21AM -0500, Terrence Brannon wrote:
 Alex Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 10:35:42PM -0500, Terrence Brannon wrote:

 For some reason, tomcat5.5 will not start on port 8180 as documented.

   

 what does a netstat -panel | grep 8180 releveal

okay try netstat -panel | grep  jsvc

   

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# cat tomcat
 #!/bin/bash -x

 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/

 /usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# ./tomcat
 + export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
 + JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
 + /usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin/startup.sh
 Using CATALINA_BASE:   /usr/share/tomcat5.5
 Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat5.5
 Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat5.5/temp
 Using JRE_HOME:   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.14/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# netstat -panel | grep 8180
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin# ls -lart /var/log/tomcat5.5/
 total 11
 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root3072 Dec  4 13:48 ..
 -rw-r--r--  1 tomcat55 nogroup  658 Dec  4 16:25 catalina_2008-12-04.log
 -rw-r--r--  1 tomcat55 nogroup  288 Dec  4 21:23 catalina_2008-12-05.log
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 manager.2008-12-04.log
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 localhost.2008-12-04.log
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 host-manager.2008-12-04.log
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Dec  4 21:58 admin.2008-12-04.log
 drwxr-x---  2 tomcat55 adm 1024 Dec  4 21:58 .
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root4563 Dec  4 22:24 catalina.2008-12-04.log
 prwx--  1 tomcat55 root   0 Dec  5 04:16 catalina.out
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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:14:42AM +0100, Neil wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  after switching from i386 to x86_64, my software RAID-1 partitions
  were not discovered automatically as they should have been. It seems
  that the physical devices (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb) have UUIDs stored
  from when I first tried to create the array, and that may have
  confused the automatic detection.
 
  My first try (a couple years ago, when the disks were new) had been to
  create a RAID-1 from the two disks and to partition that array later
  as needed. But that didn't work, so I created partitions on the disks
  and then created RAID-1 arrays from these partitions. Now it looks like 
  this:
 
 
 snip
 
  Note that the physical devices /dev/sda and /dev/sdb have UUIDs
  stored. How do I remove these UUIDs?
 
 
 You can't. The UUID is calculated out of the properties of the disk
 (dunno wich exactly). It's like trying to remove the MD5 checsum of
 something: you can't.

??

I accidentally did a mdadm /dev/md0 /dev/sdc  (notice no partition
number), which made mdadm write a superblock, I had to zero the super
block to stop mdadm complaining about sdc, because I had partitions on
there which where being used in md devices.  Why do you think you can't
zero out the md-super block for /dev/sdc ?

 
 However: your problem will be solvable and the guys who know how to do
 this are already busy.
 
 Neil
 
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Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Terrence Brannon

Alex Samad wrote:

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 04:17:21AM -0500, Terrence Brannon wrote:
  

Alex Samad wrote:


On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 10:35:42PM -0500, Terrence Brannon wrote:

For some reason, tomcat5.5 will not start on port 8180 as documented.

  


what does a netstat -panel | grep 8180 releveal
  


okay try netstat -panel | grep  jsvc


that returned nothing as well... the entire netstat output is here - 
http://static.livingcosmos.org/tmp/netstat.txt





Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Marcus Better
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Terrence Brannon wrote:
 For some reason, tomcat5.5 will not start on port 8180 as documented.

What version are you using?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin# ./startup.sh

You should probably not be using that. There is a startup script in
/etc/init.d, it should get launched on boot.

I also suggest you use the tomcat5.5 package from testing, since it has
seen numerous bug fixes.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Terrence Brannon

Marcus Better wrote:

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Terrence Brannon wrote:
  

For some reason, tomcat5.5 will not start on port 8180 as documented.



What version are you using?
  

the debian/stable version
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin# ./startup.sh



You should probably not be using that. There is a startup script in
/etc/init.d, it should get launched on boot.
  

I see, perhaps the docs should say that sort of thing?

I also suggest you use the tomcat5.5 package from testing, since it has
seen numerous bug fixes.
  
well, the server works fine now that I have rebooted my 
machine...HOWEVER: I cannot login into the Tomcat admin panel... and 
/usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5-admin does not have any information about the 
default username/password for it
  




Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Marcus Better
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Terrence Brannon wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/bin# ./startup.sh

 You should probably not be using that. There is a startup script in
 /etc/init.d, it should get launched on boot.

 I see, perhaps the docs should say that sort of thing?

Perhaps the file should be removed, or moved to a less conspicuous
location. Feel free to file a bug about this.

 I cannot login into the Tomcat admin panel... and
 /usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5-admin does not have any information about the
 default username/password for it

There is no default username/password, and it's documented in
/usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/README.Debian.

BTW the admin webapp has been removed for lenny (it was removed upstream).

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: Iceweasel not starting

2008-12-05 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

elijah rutschman wrote:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try this:

define a new user, any user:

adduser mickey

then logon to X as that user that you just added.

Then try iceweasel again, logged on as that user.


That worked!  If you were thinking it was my profile, you were right.
I deleted the ~/.mozilla folder for the original user and was able to
succefully start iceweasel.  I think the initial profile creation may
have been interrupted.

Before that, I had tried running mozilla to no avail, and top wasn't
showing any xul-runner instances.  I appreciate the suggestions.



It just so happened that I got this iceweasel does nothing thing a 
couple of days ago with 2 or my users. It turned out to be permissions: 
iceweasel does nothing if the permissions are not right in the home dir.

You can set them right with:

chown -hR userid:usergroup /home/user dir/

Hugo


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Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Terrence Brannon

Marcus Better wrote:



I cannot login into the Tomcat admin panel... and
/usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5-admin does not have any information about the
default username/password for it



There is no default username/password, and it's documented in
/usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/README.Debian.
  
there is no manager role in tomcat-users.xml ... should I also add 
that... I modified the both username to have the manager role, but am 
not sure if that role also needs to be added


Here is the file after my mod:

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
tomcat-users
 role rolename=tomcat/
 role rolename=role1/
 user username=tomcat password=tomcat roles=tomcat/
 user username=both password=tomcat roles=manager,tomcat,role1/
 user username=role1 password=tomcat roles=role1/
/tomcat-users



BTW the admin webapp has been removed for lenny (it was removed upstream).
  
the admin webapp is highly useful for deploying .war files ... why was 
it removed? I dont know what 'removed upstream' means, but I think the 
admin webapp needs to be there.


  




Re: tomcat5.5 does not start

2008-12-05 Thread Marcus Better
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Terrence Brannon wrote:
 there is no manager role in tomcat-users.xml ... should I also add
 that...

Yes. Something like this will do:

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
tomcat-users
  role rolename=manager/
  user username=marcus password=psst roles=manager/
/tomcat-users

 the admin webapp is highly useful for deploying .war files

No, that's the manager webapp. That one is still there.

 I dont know what 'removed upstream' means,

The admin webapp was for configuring Tomcat. It was removed by the
Tomcat developers in the version that will ship with lenny.

Cheers,

Marcus

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Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:29:28PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 
 Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the 
 Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version 
 of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune.

Remember Start me up from Windoze95 advt. campaign. M$ paid approx.
$500M to the Stones as though it was cheap.

A precedent that I don't think the average Linux developer could match,
or Canonical would bother with for a ~6 month term.

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Re: ALSA sound recording frustration

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:26:49PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
 lee writes:
  But how do know that there is voltage when you cannot measure it or
  otherwise make evident that there is? As far as I understand it, you
  cannot do that without current flowing. You can do it for water pressure
  without water flowing, but I don't see how you could do it for voltage
  without flow.
 
  You could use a potentiometer (not the kind you are used to:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiometer_(measuring_instrument)) or

A wheatstone bridge?

  you could measure the force exerted on a capacitor plate.  Both these
  methods are used in standards work.  Usually, though, you would just use a
  voltmeter with an input impedence larger that the leakage-resistance of
   ^
   impedance

  the wires connecting it to the source.

Sensitivity?

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Re: only root can unmount

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:23:18AM +, T o n g wrote:
 A! Thanks a lot for the comment Sven. I find the real reason:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep dvd /etc/fstab
 /dev/dvd   /media/dvd   autousers,noauto,exec,ro0  0
  ^
 /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd auto user,noauto,exec,ro 0 0

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /media/dvd
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ umount /media/dvd  echo ok
 ok
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /mnt/dvd
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ umount /mnt/dvd
 umount: only root can unmount /dev/dvd from /mnt/dvd
 
 I.e., the trick is not actually the name-du-jour of the DVD drive, but 
 the mount point -- under /mnt, no; under /media yes.

Why the 2 /dev/dvd entries? Pick one, but make sure the entry has
users not user :)

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Re: Trouble

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:37:52PM -0300, Amarantita Mieltostada wrote:
 Hi, my name is Amaranta, and i'm from Chile. In the page says that I have to
 write you in english, so i'm trying, but i'm not that handy though, so
 please be patience.
 
 I have 2 problems:
 
 1.- I sort of need the login.cc file of the Debian sources and I can't find
 it in anywere, if you please could send it to me. I need to see an example
 of how to capture the password of the user of the keyboard before it apears
 in the screen (like when someone make su).

Try the shadow source package.

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Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/29 David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I wish that Henrietta Hippo would have been the code name for Hardy Heron.

 http://www.hollywoodinvestigator.com/newzoorevue.htm


I still vote that 9.10 should be Komatose Kubuntu. KDE has been
largely ignored by Canonical devs, relative to XFCE and Gnome. I do
understand that there is an opening for a KDE developer, though, so
there is hope.

Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to
Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and
Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) If
Kubuntu weren't marketed as an official Ubuntu build this would be
mute.

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Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson

On 12/05/08 07:09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[snip]


Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to
Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and
Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) If
Kubuntu weren't marketed as an official Ubuntu build this would be
mute.


Mute or moot?

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Bridging

2008-12-05 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
Other than sharing the same IP, say wireless interface and ethernet, what
else? In case I missed something. Please share your experience :)

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Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/5 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 12/05/08 07:09, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 [snip]

 Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to
 Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and
 Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) If
 Kubuntu weren't marketed as an official Ubuntu build this would be
 mute.

 Mute or moot?


Moot, I apologize.

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Monitor is going blank

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
I have a fresh Debian Stable installation that I am trying to use as a 
informational kiosk.  The only thing I changed from the default installation 
was to switch from gdm to kdm.  My problem is the screen is going blank after 
about 10 or 20 minutes of inactivity.  This is what I have tried:

Desktop  Preferences  Power Management:

 Tab - Running on AC

  Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: Never

  Put computer to sleep when it is inactive for: Never

 Tab - General

  Sleep type when inactive: Do Nothing

Desktop  Preferences  Screensaver

  Activate screensaver when session is idle Unchecked

In bash

  xset s 0 ; could not connect to display error message

  xset -dpms ; could not connect to display error message

  setterm -blank 0 ; took command but nothing happened

This is on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 system.  I went into the bios but I could 
not see anything that would be causing the video display to go blank.

Does anybody have any ideas how I can keep the monitor screen from blanking?  I 
want it to be on all the time.

Thanks,

Brian



  


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unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Jukka Salmi
Hello,

I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950).
While the installer seemed to have succeeded without problems, the
freshly installed system didn't boot because its root file systems could
not be found:

Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...
[...]
sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb

At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until

ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!

was output and the BusyBox shell was executed.

But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk
present, /dev/sda.

While the installer was running I ran `fdisk -l /dev/sdb' and saw the
partitions I created.  (I don't know what the installer kernel thought
/dev/sda was.)  Reading /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst after the
failed boot, it seems that for some strange reason the whole system was
installed to /dev/sdb.  Fixing these files (sdb - sda) and running
update-grub(8) resulted in a bootable system.

Befor debugging this further: is this a known problem?


TIA, Jukka

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Re: Monitor is going blank

2008-12-05 Thread subscriptions
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 15:58 +0100, Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote:
 I have a fresh Debian Stable installation that I am trying to use as a 
 informational kiosk.  The only thing I changed from the default installation 
 was to switch from gdm to kdm.  My problem is the screen is going blank after 
 about 10 or 20 minutes of inactivity.  This is what I have tried:
 
 Desktop  Preferences  Power Management:
 
  Tab - Running on AC
 
   Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: Never
 
   Put computer to sleep when it is inactive for: Never
 
  Tab - General
 
   Sleep type when inactive: Do Nothing
 
 Desktop  Preferences  Screensaver
 
   Activate screensaver when session is idle Unchecked
 
 In bash
 
   xset s 0 ; could not connect to display error message
 
   xset -dpms ; could not connect to display error message
 
   setterm -blank 0 ; took command but nothing happened
 
 This is on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 system.  I went into the bios but I 
 could not see anything that would be causing the video display to go blank.
 
 Does anybody have any ideas how I can keep the monitor screen from blanking?  
 I want it to be on all the time.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brian

Make sure you comment out the option DPMS in /etc/X11/xorg.conf as shown
here:

---snip
Section Monitor
Identifier  Configured Monitor
#Option  DPMS
EndSection
---snip


Best,

Rob


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Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-05 17:27 +0100, Jukka Salmi wrote:

 I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950).
 While the installer seemed to have succeeded without problems, the
 freshly installed system didn't boot because its root file systems could
 not be found:

   Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...
   [...]
   sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb

 At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until

   ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!

 was output and the BusyBox shell was executed.

 But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk
 present, /dev/sda.

How many physical discs does the system have (removable and
non-removable)?  And do you know the kernel versions in the installer and
the installed system?

 While the installer was running I ran `fdisk -l /dev/sdb' and saw the
 partitions I created.  (I don't know what the installer kernel thought
 /dev/sda was.)  Reading /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst after the
 failed boot, it seems that for some strange reason the whole system was
 installed to /dev/sdb.  Fixing these files (sdb - sda) and running
 update-grub(8) resulted in a bootable system.

 Befor debugging this further: is this a known problem?

Kind of, I guess.  The device naming of the kernel is not static; the
Lenny installer addresses this by using UUIDs in fstab and grub.

Sven


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[OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-05 Thread Adrian Chapela

Hello,

I am thinking on a new server for my mision critical database server. 
This server will have Debian OS and MySQL database server. Requisites: 2 
CPU (minimun), 32 GB RAM, 2 TB for mysql data files on SAS Hard Disks, 
500 GB for mysql binlog + system on SAS Hard Disks, RAID with two 
channels (1 for data files and 1 for binlog).


I am thinking in HP , one HP Proliant ML370 but it hasn't 300 GB SAS on 
2,5.


Then I have two options, SuperMicro has 16 3,5 hot plug bays and 
Silicon Mechanics also with 16 3,5. Do you know something about it ? 
Could you advice me another companies ?


Thank you!


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Songbird package?

2008-12-05 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Now that Songbird has been released as 1.0, will there be a Debian package for 
it? I use Lenny now.

On the Songbird site they only have a source tarball, and the contributed 
builds are for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSolaris, and Gentoo. Are we that much behind 
the times?!? :-)

Jen.


  


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iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Robert L. Harris
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Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:

  /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp
  $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 21 -j DNAT
- --to 10.1.1.32:21
  $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  # Active
  $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 20 -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
  $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --sport 20 -j DNAT
- --to 10.1.1.32:20
  $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 20 -m state --state ESTABLISHED
- -j ACCEPT
  # Passive
  $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 1024: --dport 1024: -m state
- --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 1024: -j
DNAT --to 10.1.1.32
  $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 1024: --dport 1024: -m state
- --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine behind
my firewall.   Anyone have
this working?  Mine is failing and I have no real debug info to
explain why

Robert

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Re: Songbird package?

2008-12-05 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-05 18:14 +0100, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

 Now that Songbird has been released as 1.0, will there be a Debian
 package for it? I use Lenny now.

Not in the near future, no.  There are people who intend to package it¹,
but like many Mozilla packages Songbird is rather complex.  And the
usual trademark issues with Mozilla apply to it as well.

 On the Songbird site they only have a source tarball, and the
 contributed builds are for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSolaris, and
 Gentoo. Are we that much behind the times?!? :-)

I don't think so.  On http://getsongbird.com/download/ you can obtain
binaries for 32-bit and 64-bit GNU/Linux that should work fine on Lenny.
The Ubuntu builds are really a joke, they are little more than just the
official binary tarballs repackaged.

Sven


¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412437


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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread S Scharf
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Robert L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

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 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:



...


 I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine behind
 my firewall.   Anyone have
 this working?  Mine is failing and I have no real debug info to
 explain why

 Robert

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Before accusing the firewall, is ip forwarding turned on in /etc/sysctl.con
?

Stuart


Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread S Scharf
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:52 PM, S Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Robert L. Harris 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:



 ...


 I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine behind
 my firewall.   Anyone have
 this working?  Mine is failing and I have no real debug info to
 explain why

 Robert

 - --

 :wq!


 Before accusing the firewall, is ip forwarding turned on in /etc/sysctl.con
 ?

 Stuart


Oops, that should be /etc/sysctl.conf

Stuart


Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

2008-12-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Q: How are we going to do that?
 A: It's not possible in general.

Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current code in
those cases where you don't know how else to do it.

 When something is impossible, it's impractical to think about how it
 would be done.

Solving NP-hard problems in a reasonable amount of time is considered
(currently and maybe for ever) impossible in general.  Yet, people write
programs that do that every day.

 Ex-Gentoo user; didn't like the configuration file update command dumping 
 gconf files through less.  I imagine diff3 would be quite a bit worse.

Right now, dpkg dumps you a diff output.  Would diff3 be worse, really?
Furthermore, once you know that something like diff3 (or some other
merge algorithm) can be used, you can start adjusting your config files
so that they play nicely with it.


Stefan


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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Robert L. Harris
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yes it is and I am successfully routing port 80/http to a different
server behind the firewall just fine.



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 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:



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 I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine
 behind my firewall.   Anyone have this working?  Mine is failing
 and I have no real debug info to explain why

 Robert

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 Before accusing the firewall, is ip forwarding turned on in
 /etc/sysctl.con ?

 Stuart


 Oops, that should be /etc/sysctl.conf

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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread lee
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:40:21PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 07:10:44PM -0600, lee wrote:
   On Thursday 2008 December 04 15:15, lee wrote:
How do I remove the UUIDs from /dev/sda and /dev/sdb to prevent
the automatic detection from being confused again?
  
   Check out the --zero-superblock mode for mdadm.  It is documented in 'man 
   8 
   mdadm'.
  
  cat:/home/lee# mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb
  mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sdb for write - not zeroing
  
  
  It's the same for sda. Do I need to stop all md devices involving
  these disks to remove the UUID? If so, how do you do it when it's not
  possible to stop them while the system is running (other than booting
  from CD or the like)?
 
 whilst booting add init=/bin/bash to the kernel options, or boot up
 knoppix or something like it

Oh. Does bash run with only the root partition mounted?


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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:35:47AM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
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 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:
 
   /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp
   $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
 NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
   $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 21 -j DNAT
 - --to 10.1.1.32:21
   $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
 NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
   # Active
   $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 20 -m state --state
 ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
   $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --sport 20 -j DNAT
 - --to 10.1.1.32:20
   $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 20 -m state --state ESTABLISHED
 - -j ACCEPT
   # Passive
   $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport 1024: --dport 1024: -m state
 - --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
   $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 1024: -j
 DNAT --to 10.1.1.32
   $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 1024: --dport 1024: -m state
 - --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

Can I suggest something like this


# one catch all for all related and established connection 
# as defined by connection tracking 
iptables -I INPUT RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT


iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
10.1.1.32:21

I am not sure if you need the other ports for active as the conn track
module should handle that for you (works on out going not 100% sure on
incoming).

You need the forward statement you could add a -d 10.1.1.32, because the
DNAT makes it a routed packet.

you can test this with tcpdump -pni interface -port 21 or host host
ip

alex

 
 I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine behind
 my firewall.   Anyone have
 this working?  Mine is failing and I have no real debug info to
 explain why
 
 Robert
 
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Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Davies
Jukka Salmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950).

Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...
sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb

 At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until
ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
 was output and the BusyBox shell was executed.

 But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk
 present, /dev/sda.


I've also come across this, and it seems only to affect DELL 2950s. I've
not logged a bug because I couldn't work out /where/ (i.e. which package)
I should log it against.

You need to boot a Rescue CD [*] and change all occurrences of sdb to
sda in the files /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. (At least, that's
what my memory suggests as I don't have my notes to hand.)

Chris

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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:52:52PM -0600, lee wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:40:21PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 07:10:44PM -0600, lee wrote:
On Thursday 2008 December 04 15:15, lee wrote:
 How do I remove the UUIDs from /dev/sda and /dev/sdb to prevent
 the automatic detection from being confused again?
   
Check out the --zero-superblock mode for mdadm.  It is documented in 
'man 8 
mdadm'.
   
   cat:/home/lee# mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb
   mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sdb for write - not zeroing
   
   
   It's the same for sda. Do I need to stop all md devices involving
   these disks to remove the UUID? If so, how do you do it when it's not
   possible to stop them while the system is running (other than booting
   from CD or the like)?
  
  whilst booting add init=/bin/bash to the kernel options, or boot up
  knoppix or something like it
 
 Oh. Does bash run with only the root partition mounted?

usually :), there is also a way to get busybox loaded from the initrd
and have it drop into a command prompt

 
 
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Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 06:15:12PM +, Chris Davies wrote:
 Jukka Salmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950).
 
 Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...
 sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb
 
  At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until
 ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
  was output and the BusyBox shell was executed.
 
  But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk
  present, /dev/sda.
 
 
 I've also come across this, and it seems only to affect DELL 2950s. I've
 not logged a bug because I couldn't work out /where/ (i.e. which package)
 I should log it against.
 
 You need to boot a Rescue CD [*] and change all occurrences of sdb to
 sda in the files /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. (At least, that's
 what my memory suggests as I don't have my notes to hand.)

maybe the best thing to do is change to using labels or UUID's ?



 
 Chris
 
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Can't build 2.6.5 kernel after Upgrade to Etch-and-a-Half

2008-12-05 Thread Martin McCormick
I upgraded this system about a week ago and this is the
first thing that doesn't work at all. I had needed to compile
the USB serial driver in to the kernel so I originally did
make menuconfig

which gave me the errors you will see below. I then did make
mrproper to start clean and then make to see what I would get.
The first error is understandable as there was now no .config
after the make mrproper. Things then go from bad to worse.

3hydrogen#make
Makefile:405: .config: No such file or directory
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  UPD include/linux/version.h
  SYMLINK include/asm - include/asm-i386
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/split-include
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/docproc
  SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.h
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/conf.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows
non-static declaration
scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 'current_menu' was here
make[2]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2
make: *** [include/linux/autoconf.h] Error 2

I am not sure what changed in the environment after the
upgrade, but this source all did compile before.

Any ideas are appreciated.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread lee
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:14:42AM +0100, Neil wrote:

  Note that the physical devices /dev/sda and /dev/sdb have UUIDs
  stored. How do I remove these UUIDs?
 
 
 You can't. The UUID is calculated out of the properties of the disk
 (dunno wich exactly). It's like trying to remove the MD5 checsum of
 something: you can't.

You mean it's not stored on the disk but calculated every time? Then
how can /dev/sda have the same UUID as /dev/sdb?

As far as I understood it, mdadm writes these UUIDs so that they can
be used to recreate the arrays without entries for them in
mdadm.conf. That worked just fine on i386 when I connected the disks
after I got a larger case and installed the mdadm package. It worked
just fine, sort of, after switching to x86_64, but differently in
that the UUIDs on the devices were overriding the UUIDs on the
partitions. Maybe I should send a bug report about it, but I can't
tell which version is buggy, the i386 or x86_64.

 However: your problem will be solvable and the guys who know how to do
 this are already busy.

Who is busy with this?

It's working now with the manually created entries in mdadm.conf ...

But I can't help thinking that this isn't how it should be,
i. e. maybe when installing the mdadm package, it should tell the user
what arrays have been found and will be created, and it should give
him a choice to start the md devices now or not. If I hadn't waited
for the resync on the wrongly set up array to finish, I might have
lost the data (a power failure might be enough) --- or a wrong
detection could actually destroy the data. It only asks you if and
what arrays should be brought up on system startup, and that is
obviously not enough.


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Re: Monitor is going blank

2008-12-05 Thread Brian
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 To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 11:48 AM
 On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 15:58 +0100, Brian Kimsey-Hickman
 wrote:
  I have a fresh Debian Stable installation that I am
 trying to use as a informational kiosk.  The only thing I
 changed from the default installation was to switch from gdm
 to kdm.  My problem is the screen is going blank after about
 10 or 20 minutes of inactivity.  This is what I have tried:
  
  Desktop  Preferences  Power Management:
  
   Tab - Running on AC
  
Put display to sleep when computer is inactive
 for: Never
  
Put computer to sleep when it is inactive for:
 Never
  
   Tab - General
  
Sleep type when inactive: Do Nothing
  
  Desktop  Preferences  Screensaver
  
Activate screensaver when session is
 idle Unchecked
  
  In bash
  
xset s 0 ; could not connect to display error
 message
  
xset -dpms ; could not connect to display error
 message
  
setterm -blank 0 ; took command but nothing happened
  
  This is on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 system.  I went
 into the bios but I could not see anything that would be
 causing the video display to go blank.
  
  Does anybody have any ideas how I can keep the monitor
 screen from blanking?  I want it to be on all the time.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Brian
 
 Make sure you comment out the option DPMS in
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf as shown
 here:
 
 ---snip
 Section Monitor
 Identifier  Configured Monitor
 #Option  DPMS
 EndSection
 ---snip
 
 
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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Rob de Graaf
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 18:35 +0100, Robert L. Harris wrote:
  From: 
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To: 
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   Subject: 
 iptables, ftp and dnat?
  Date: 
 Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:35:47 +0100
 (19:35 EET)

 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:

 I am trying to forward public internet ftp traffic to a machine behind
 my firewall.   Anyone have
 this working?  Mine is failing and I have no real debug info to
 explain why
 
 Robert

Did you think about that FTP re-connects back?

Hence, use passive FTP:
$ ftp -p some.domain

Best,

Rob


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Re: gui unreadable after bad shutdown

2008-12-05 Thread admin
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 23:08 -0600, Kent West wrote:

 administrator wrote:
  My system fails to start properly after a bad shutdown (not using
  shutdown/power cut), the graphics are incorrect and full of lines at
  login point. No way of reading the screen as no real images to see, the
  initial boot text is fine but on entry into GUI it all goes wrong. 
  This has happened before and sorted itself after waiting until the 21st
  boot to sort out file integrity but not now.  
  I have installed a new HD as master and re loaded the latest dvd
  download but still the same thing when previous HD ran as slave. Now  it
  has been 8 hrs trying to no avail, this is on i386, please advise, my
  work is in limbo until i sort this, TIA
 
 


I managed to work out that it was the graphics card!!

must have been fading out for a while

Funny that it was fixing itself before at the same time the boot did a
file integrity check before it failed 

Thanks anyway



 Try changing the res with Ctrl-Alt-plus-on-the-numpad a time or dozen. 
 Any improvement?
 
 You should be able to press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to the second Virtual 
 Terminal (VT), and log in from there into a text-mode only setup.
 
  From there, you can start working to fix X.
 
 I'd start by shutting down whatever login manager you have (sudo 
 /etc/init.d/[x|k|g|w]dm stop). Then you can try starting X manually with 
 startx . If that gives you a garbled screen, you can 
 Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill it, then tinker with /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and 
 try again.
 
 
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Re: Bridging

2008-12-05 Thread Daryl Styrk
Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
 Other than sharing the same IP, say wireless interface and ethernet, what
 else? In case I missed something. Please share your experience :)
 


Are you asking how to bridge those interfaces?  I don't fully understand
your question.



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Issues with PCF and BDF Fonts after regular lenny updates

2008-12-05 Thread Amit Uttamchandani

I do my usual Lenny/Testing updates every couple of days and this time
however, my terminal and X fonts are messed up.

The curios thing is that it is only PCF or BDF fonts. TrueType fonts
display correctly.

For example, I use slim X11 session manager and this specific theme
uses snap.pcf (from artwiz). It can't seem to find snap.pcf and thus
defaults to Bitstream or some other font.

Same issue with urxvt. I use Dina.bdf for that and now it displays a
super large font. If I change urxvt to use Liberation Sans or Courier,
everything works as expected.

After looking at logs, I figured the only cause was my last set of
updates included updates to fontconfig. I searched bug reports but to
no avail.

I am not too familiar with fonts on linux systems so any help would be
appreciated. Maybe I just need to rebuild the font caches? How do I do
that?

Also, I don't use GNOME or KDE so CLI method is preferable.

Thanks,
Amit


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Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux

2008-12-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 December 2008, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux':
 Q: How are we going to do that?
 A: It's not possible in general.

Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current code in
those cases where you don't know how else to do it.

No, it's not.

Falling back to the old behavior (not merging changes) is not a technique 
for automatically merging local changes to conffiles.  It is refusing to 
solve the problem, not a solution to the problem.

 When something is impossible, it's impractical to think about how it
 would be done.

Solving NP-hard problems in a reasonable amount of time is considered
(currently and maybe for ever) impossible in general.  Yet, people write
programs that do that every day.

No, they don't.

Instead, they make take the general problem and make it more specific 
through a set of assumptions.  This altered problem is no longer NP-hard.  
The provided solution no longer solves the problem in general.

Alternatively, they make successive approximations of the solution and stop 
when the approximation is good enough, never actually, exactly solving 
the problem.

 Ex-Gentoo user; didn't like the configuration file update command
 dumping gconf files through less.  I imagine diff3 would be quite a bit
 worse.

Right now, dpkg dumps you a diff output.

No, it doesn't.

Right now, dpkg asks if I want my copy or the maintainers copy or a diff or 
a shell (and maybe a few other options).  This is quite sufficient, and a 
shade or two better than the Gentoo solution.

Next time, try and make at least one of your assertions true. :P ;)

Seriously, if you think it can be done, show us the patch.  I'm completely 
willing to generate test cases that will break it with the goal of 
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Re: Record or Download RTMPT Stream

2008-12-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 08:44:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:

 [...]
 This ~/.asoundrc works for me to copy the PCM output to a file
 independent even if the capture device is set to my microphone:

 http://www.swview.org/node/213

[...]

 With this .asoundrc file can I hear no more sound from AlsaPlayer and  
 other players
 BUT the rtmpt stream is still playing from the flash-thingy in the web  
 browser through the speakers.

I think you misunderstand how this is meant to work: You are supposed to
still hear the sound normally through the speakers and at the same time
the raw audio data should be dumped to the file that you specified in
~/.asoundrc.

Here are the details of what I tried:

1) I took the configuration from the website mentioned above and saved
   it as ~/asoundrc. The only change I made was to shorten the output
   filename to /tmp/test.raw.

2) I opened iceweasel and visited the website that you pointed out
   earlier. They seemed to have a problem with the audio streams
   (temporarily unavailable), so I played one of their videos instead
   (also with the flash plugin). I heard the sound of the video and at
   the same time /tmp/test.raw kept growing as the audio data was saved.

3) I stopped the video after about 40 seconds, closed iceweasel and
   deleted (renamed) ~/.asoundrc. This is important because otherwise
   /tmp/test.raw will be overwritten as soon as you play anything else
   via alsa.

4) I could then play back the captured audio like this:

   aplay -t raw -c 2 -f S16_LE -r 48000 /tmp/test.raw

   The RAW file format does not contain any information about the
   sampling rate, the number of channels and the data format, therefore
   I had to specify these parameters as command line options. Such a RAW
   file needs about 11.5 MB per minute of captured audio since there is
   no data compression.

5) If I wanted to keep the recording then I could downsample and
   convert it to a standard-quality OGG file like this:

   oggenc -r -C 2 -B 16 --raw-endianness=0 -R 48000 --resample 44100 
--output=recording.ogg /tmp/test.raw

[...]

 Could it be true that only the following devices have CAPTURE capabilities?
 'IntMic',0
 'Int Mic',0
 'ExtMic',0
 'Ext Mic',0
 'Digital',0

That is certainly possible; it could be a limitation of your hardware or
the driver. The author of the swview.org page states that he does not
have a 'Mix' device either.

 Is there a chance to play and record the stream through the 'Digital',0  
 device?

My sound chip (Intel 82801H HD Audio [8086:284b]) does not allow me to
set capture on 'Digital', but I don't know if this is the same for other
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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Robert L. Harris
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Alex Samad wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:35:47AM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:

 Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:

 /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport
 21 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A
 PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
 10.1.1.32:21 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
  NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # Active $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp
 --sport 20 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES
 -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --sport 20 -j DNAT --to
 10.1.1.32:20 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 20 -m state --state
 ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # Passive $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport
 1024: --dport 1024: -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
 $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 1024: -j
 DNAT --to 10.1.1.32 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 1024:
 --dport 1024: -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

 Can I suggest something like this


 # one catch all for all related and established connection # as
 defined by connection tracking iptables -I INPUT
 RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT


 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j
 ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW
 -j ACCEPT

 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
 10.1.1.32:21

 I am not sure if you need the other ports for active as the conn
 track module should handle that for you (works on out going not
 100% sure on incoming).

 You need the forward statement you could add a -d 10.1.1.32,
 because the
 DNAT makes it a routed packet.

 you can test this with tcpdump -pni interface -port 21 or host
 host ip

 alex




Using your rule I get this:

iptables v1.4.1.1: Invalid rule number `RELATED,ESTABLISHED'
Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.

Commenting it out, everything looks good until after I log in and try
to do an ls when it returns:
ftp ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (10,1,1,32,205,208).

Then nothing.



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Re: software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?

2008-12-05 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 05 December 2008, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: 
software raid 1: how to remove a UUID from a device?':
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:40:21PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 07:10:44PM -0600, lee wrote:
   On Thursday 2008 December 04 15:15, lee wrote:
How do I remove the UUIDs from /dev/sda and /dev/sdb to prevent
the automatic detection from being confused again?
  
   Check out the --zero-superblock mode for mdadm.  It is documented
   in 'man 8 mdadm'.
 
  cat:/home/lee# mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb
  mdadm: Couldn't open /dev/sdb for write - not zeroing
 
 
  It's the same for sda. Do I need to stop all md devices involving
  these disks to remove the UUID? If so, how do you do it when it's not
  possible to stop them while the system is running (other than booting
  from CD or the like)?

 whilst booting add init=/bin/bash to the kernel options, or boot up
 knoppix or something like it

Oh. Does bash run with only the root partition mounted?

No, but there's few processes running so you can unmount most of the ones 
that are mounted.  Using fuser or similar tools, you can identify the 
processes that are keeping the others from being unmounted, shutdown those 
processes, and unmount the disks.

I've always been able to go down to / being the only mount point with a 
real filesystem attached when starting with init=/bin/bash.  If you have 
to do something to the filesystem mounted on / though, you'll probably 
want to boot from CD -- the initrd is somewhat limited.
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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:35:25PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
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 Alex Samad wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:35:47AM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
 
  Help...   I have the following in my firewall startup script:
 
  /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport
  21 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A
  PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
  10.1.1.32:21 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state
   NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # Active $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp
  --sport 20 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES
  -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --sport 20 -j DNAT --to
  10.1.1.32:20 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 20 -m state --state
  ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT # Passive $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --sport
  1024: --dport 1024: -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
  $IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i $IFACE --dport 1024: -j
  DNAT --to 10.1.1.32 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 1024:
  --dport 1024: -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
 
  Can I suggest something like this
 
 
  # one catch all for all related and established connection # as
  defined by connection tracking iptables -I INPUT
  RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
 
 
  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j
  ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW
  -j ACCEPT
 
  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
  10.1.1.32:21
 
  I am not sure if you need the other ports for active as the conn
  track module should handle that for you (works on out going not
  100% sure on incoming).
 
  You need the forward statement you could add a -d 10.1.1.32,
  because the
  DNAT makes it a routed packet.
 
  you can test this with tcpdump -pni interface -port 21 or host
  host ip
 
  alex
 
 
 
 
 Using your rule I get this:
 
 iptables v1.4.1.1: Invalid rule number `RELATED,ESTABLISHED'
 Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.

ops early morning emailing forgot the 

-m state --state

iptables -I INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

 
 Commenting it out, everything looks good until after I log in and try
 to do an ls when it returns:
 ftp ls
 227 Entering Passive Mode (10,1,1,32,205,208).
 
 Then nothing.

you can use 2 methods track it down, tcpdump on the outside and the
inside interface or -j LOG statements to see what is getting
drop/rejected (maybe first try again with the related/establish line
working)

 
 
 
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Re: Record or Download RTMPT Stream

2008-12-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 21:19:54 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

 1) I took the configuration from the website mentioned above and saved
it as ~/asoundrc. The only change I made was to shorten the output
filename to /tmp/test.raw.

To avoid confusion, let me clarify: ~/.asoundrc is the correct name.

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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Glenn English
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 iptables -I INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
 
 Commenting it out, everything looks good until after I log in and try
 to do an ls when it returns:
 ftp ls
 227 Entering Passive Mode (10,1,1,32,205,208).
 
 Then nothing.

I've configured my ftp server to use a specific, small range of ports
for passive mode data, then poked a hole in the iptables filter for
them. What you're describing sounds like the reason I did that...

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Re: Remote signing of large files

2008-12-05 Thread Magnus Therning
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Thursday 04 December 2008, Magnus Therning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about 'Remote signing of large files':
 I'd feel a bit more safe if the
 signing could be done on a separate server.  However, the built files
 are large and I don't want to introduce a bottle neck by transfering
 all files back and forth over the network.
 
 In any case, you'd only have to send big files in one direction, the 
 detached signatures should be relatively small.

True, but with large files it still is too much time spent sending files
over the network.

 So, my idea was to somehow separate the two steps that GnuPG performs
 under the hood when signing, creating the message digest (hash) and
 the signing of this message digest.  I've found `--print-md` which
 looks promising, but there doesn't seem to be any `--sign-md`.
 
 A detached signature is, mathematically, the message digest run thorough 
 the encrypt() function.  [Encrypting with the private key allows anyone 
 with the public key to decrypt to the digest plaintext which they can 
 compare to a locally calculated message digest, thus verifying the 
 signature.  They can also be assured that the signature is from the owner 
 of the private key, or that the private key has been compromised.]
 
 So, you might try --encrypt'ing the output of --print-md.

AFAIU it wouldn't work:

1. Encrypting is actually using a symmetric algorithm for the bulk of
the data and asymmetric crypto is only used to encrypt the symmetric
key.  In any case I don't think I can get `--encrypt` to use the private
key.

2. AFAIU signing always signs a message digest, no matter what type of
data I stick in.  So signing the output of `--print-md` wouldn't do
since verification would require a manual step.

/M

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Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Dirk Vervoort

Alex Samad wrote:

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 06:15:12PM +, Chris Davies wrote:
  

Jukka Salmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950).
  
   Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...

   sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb
  
At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until

   ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
was output and the BusyBox shell was executed.
  
But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk

present, /dev/sda.
  

I've also come across this, and it seems only to affect DELL 2950s. I've
not logged a bug because I couldn't work out /where/ (i.e. which package)
I should log it against.

You need to boot a Rescue CD [*] and change all occurrences of sdb to
sda in the files /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. (At least, that's
what my memory suggests as I don't have my notes to hand.)



maybe the best thing to do is change to using labels or UUID's ?



  

Chris

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Hi All,

I have got a similar problem while installing Debian on a USB stick. 
While installing, it was seen as sdb. But when I boot from the USB stick 
it was seen as sda.

5 or just the opposite.


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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

You should try and keep this on list


Alex


On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:17:42PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
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[snip]

 
 I've updated my rules to this:
 #  # allow ftpd
   HARVARD=10.1.1.32
   /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp
   # General
   iptables -I INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
   iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
   iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
   iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to
 10.1.1.32:21
 
 I think I confused myself though,  do I need the other rules I had for
 port 20 or will the first INPUT rule
 above cover that?

have a look here http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html (quick google on
ftp  ports).

It shows you how the ports are used for ftp.

The ftp contrack module that you where loading previous should handle
the related ports and allow them through, what I am not sure about is
weather it will handle the dnat'ing of those port.  But then again you
could specify passive ftp only

here is another link
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/iptables-open-ftp-port-21/ (again google).


My strength is in itables not ftp (which is the reason for googling :) )

Also anything to do with iptables and firewalls you should probably read
a tutorial on iptables


 
 Thank you for your help,  I've not done anything this complex with
 iptables before.
 
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Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Davies
Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe the best thing to do is change to using labels or UUID's ?

I'm not aware of any way to get the installer to do that.

There is an underlying problem here, though, whereby the installer
discovers and uses sdb when in fact it should be referencing sda. Either
the installer or its installed system is wrong, and it's probably the
installer, but it may simply be something to do with the order that udev
indeterminately discovers its devices on a 2950.

Chris


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Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?

2008-12-05 Thread Robert L. Harris
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Alex Samad wrote:
 Hi

 You should try and keep this on list

Sorry, hit reply instead of reply all.



 Alex


 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:17:42PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:



 [snip]

 I've updated my rules to this: #  # allow ftpd HARVARD=10.1.1.32
 /sbin/modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp # General iptables -I INPUT -m
 state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p
 tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD
 -p tcp --dport 21 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT iptables -t nat -A
 PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to 10.1.1.32:21

 I think I confused myself though,  do I need the other rules I had
 for port 20 or will the first INPUT rule above cover that?

 have a look here http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html (quick
 google on ftp  ports).

 It shows you how the ports are used for ftp.

 The ftp contrack module that you where loading previous should
 handle the related ports and allow them through, what I am not
 sure
 about is
 weather it will handle the dnat'ing of those port.  But then
 again you could specify passive ftp only

 here is another link
 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/iptables-open-ftp-port-21/ (again
 google).


 My strength is in itables not ftp (which is the reason for
 googling :) )

 Also anything to do with iptables and firewalls you should
 probably read
 a tutorial on iptables


  I've read both of those and understand how the ftp works.  I've
spent the last 2 days googling.
Unfortunately it's all working now except how to get the iptables data
connection in passive
mode working.  I can log in, etc just fine but when I do a ls after
issuing the passive
command it times out.

  The second example looks good but doesn't handle the DNAT (the ftp
server is running on
another machine behind my firewall.

Robert



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question about a linux embedded router i have

2008-12-05 Thread CJ Kelley
Hi all,

ive been searching for hours and found very little information, but what I
have is a StepTech MAAT router which has linux embedded. Since DHCP is not
enabled by default on this router, i have to statically address everything.
I wonder if any of you would be able to help me because i dont have any
documentation on this router and i do not know what the routers address is.

Additional Information:
Serial Number: PA32000688
Model: MAAT

Everything powers up and it runs just fine (infact you can hear the little
hard drive in there going)

TIA

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Re: cryptsetup, hald and automounting external disk

2008-12-05 Thread Michal R. Hoffmann

On 04/12/08 21:28, subscriptions wrote:

Hi all,

I am using cryptsetup (LUKS) successfully on most of my partitions (i.e.
not /boot) and external disk drives.

For the external drives, HALD recognises the LUKS encrypted partition
and prompts for a password.

Does anybody know where I can configure the system such that the
external disk is automatically decrypted with encryption keys and
mounted.


In Gnome the password dialog gives a user 3 options for the password:
- forget immediately
- remember till logout
- remember 'forever'

Debian sid. I don't know what do you use - any window manager? I believe 
KDE has a similar option.


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where is postgresql-8.3's packager's instructions?

2008-12-05 Thread 中和刘
I'm learnimg to use postgresql-8.3 database server on debian sid, and
I have installed it successfully from debian package, then when i read
the document from postgresql to learn to manage it, it says:
(If you are installing a pre-packaged distribution, such as an RPM or
Debian package, ignore this chapter and read the packager's
instructions instead)
so i'm wondering where is the packager's instructions? thanks

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