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Merhaba *, Summary:Turkey France Germany GPRS 84 kBit 53 kBit38-53 kBit EDGE285 kBit200 kBit none UMTS nonenone 384 kBit (W-CDMA) but Vodaphone upgrade to TD-SCDMA in 06/2000 which is called UMTS v2 with 1,8 MBit. Yeah, germans are really crazy Cheapest EDGE-Provider in France is Bouygues Telecom with 79€/130 YTL per month which is acceptable for non limited traffic. VoIP, P2P and streaming is not allowed. The PCMCIA card (Sierra Wireless) including the SIM is free of charge for this Abonement... (Abo exist in 5/20/50MB for 13/19/27| per month to but PCMCIA+SIM is around 100€) Solution: Get the PCMCIA for free with an 79€ abo and then 1 month later change it to 5/20/50 MB... :-P You can change it at any moment so I can use it for example now in France unlimited with 79€ and if I go to Turkey I change it to 5 MB/month and if I come back I can change it back to unlimited. In Germany there is only Vodaphone which offer heavy reductions on GPRS (as Fallback) and UMTS. But the tarif is more complicated... If you are in your home-zone (this is where you live (telephone prefix) you can get 5000 MBytes or 50 Hours for 30€. The PCMCIA-Card plus SIM is 49€. If you are in the volume tarif and exceed the 5000MByte, you pay 0,25€/MB. Access to UMTS outside the home-zone is really expensive. 1,86 €/MByte. But there is a home-zone independant abo where you pay 1 € for the PCMCIA-Card plus SIM and then monthly 7€ plus volume or time tarif. 1000 MByte or 100 hours are 104,40 €/Month and you pay 0.58 € for each MByte or 10 minutes more. Oh yes, the price for UMTS will not change if they increase the speed from 384 kBit to 1,8 MBit. OK, It seems, that I will use Turkcell because the support EDGE and it is faster. It is realy interesting, to see the price politic in different countries. And there is one thing: The frenchies has lost the judgement in the EU and MUST open the Telecom market, because there was currently a monopol between France Telecom/Orange, Bougues and SFR. Now in several month the End-Users will benefit from the judgement. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
Re: UMTS in Turkey?
Hello Cagri, Am 2006-02-05 22:52:41, schrieb cagri coltekin: Merhabalar, Alternatively, If you have a mobile phone that supports bluetooth and gprs and bluetooth support on your computer (or instead of bluetooth a cable with which you can access your phone's AT command interface), you do not need a modem card. Yes, this is waht I use currently, but GPRS is in Turkey 85 kBit (6 Slots) and my Siemens S40 has only 4 of the 10 slots activated for Downloads which mean, I will get only 50-56 kBit. OK, it works nice... I generally use the above method with a pre-paid Turkcell subscription while I'm in Turkey. The rates are not the best, however, I find it affordable if you are using it to check your e-mail now and then. And except the special offer of first 5MB free, you get the same rates anyway. OK, if I can access the Internet with Pre-Payed cards it would be nice. (for testing) Is there a special telephone number for internet access? German GSM Provider have one, French not... Hope this helps, Evet, Tesekkür ederim. Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UMTS in Turkey?
Merhabalar, On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 09:21:09AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Merhaba Mehmet, Am 2006-01-30 18:13:07, schrieb Mehmet Turker: Bu Turkcell has TurkcellConnect Mobile Modem Cards.It uses GPRS/EDGE. http://www.turkcell.com.tr/index/0,1028,300405,00.html Mehmet - END OF REPLYED MESSAGE - I have checked... In March I will come to Turkey (Denizli) now I need a PCMCIA-Card which support GPRS+EDGE. Later Protocol is not availlable in France and Germany so I do not know, which PCMCIA Card to buy... Can you recommend some? Alternatively, If you have a mobile phone that supports bluetooth and gprs and bluetooth support on your computer (or instead of bluetooth a cable with which you can access your phone's AT command interface), you do not need a modem card. I generally use the above method with a pre-paid Turkcell subscription while I'm in Turkey. The rates are not the best, however, I find it affordable if you are using it to check your e-mail now and then. And except the special offer of first 5MB free, you get the same rates anyway. Whats the price of the PCMCIA-Card selled be Turkcell (Abo: GPRScell). Now I have to check the curence TL/Euro because for the first 5 MByte are 0,00180 TL/kByte. Note that this price is for regular subscriptions. If you are planning to use a a pre-paid card, it is more expensive. 1 unit per 60k (the tokens for pre-paid cards are sold in 100/250/500 units, and last time I bought it was around 0.1YTL per unit). And what is YTL and DK? YTL seems to be a the new currency in TR. You are right about YTL. DK is probably an abbreviation for dakika (minute). Hope this helps, -- cagri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UMTS in Turkey?
Merhaba Mehmet, Am 2006-01-30 18:13:07, schrieb Mehmet Turker: Bu Turkcell has TurkcellConnect Mobile Modem Cards.It uses GPRS/EDGE. http://www.turkcell.com.tr/index/0,1028,300405,00.html Mehmet - END OF REPLYED MESSAGE - I have checked... In March I will come to Turkey (Denizli) now I need a PCMCIA-Card which support GPRS+EDGE. Later Protocol is not availlable in France and Germany so I do not know, which PCMCIA Card to buy... Can you recommend some? Whats the price of the PCMCIA-Card selled be Turkcell (Abo: GPRScell). Now I have to check the curence TL/Euro because for the first 5 MByte are 0,00180 TL/kByte. And what is YTL and DK? YTL seems to be a the new currency in TR. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UMTS in Turkey?
Hi Michelle, I'm writing a private message. Mehmet -Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:21 AM To: debian-user-turkish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: UMTS in Turkey? Merhaba Mehmet, Am 2006-01-30 18:13:07, schrieb Mehmet Turker: Bu Turkcell has TurkcellConnect Mobile Modem Cards.It uses GPRS/EDGE. http://www.turkcell.com.tr/index/0,1028,300405,00.html Mehmet - END OF REPLYED MESSAGE - I have checked... In March I will come to Turkey (Denizli) now I need a PCMCIA-Card which support GPRS+EDGE. Later Protocol is not availlable in France and Germany so I do not know, which PCMCIA Card to buy... Can you recommend some? Whats the price of the PCMCIA-Card selled be Turkcell (Abo: GPRScell). Now I have to check the curence TL/Euro because for the first 5 MByte are 0,00180 TL/kByte. And what is YTL and DK? YTL seems to be a the new currency in TR. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIZLILIK NOTU Bu e-posta mesaji gizli, hassas bilgi ve/ya da ekler icerebilir. Bu mesaj, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilen kullanici/kullanicilara gonderilmistir. Eger mesaji yanlislikla almissaniz lutfen gondereni acilen bilgilendiriniz, mesaji ve tum kopyalarini siliniz. Bu mesaj bilinen tum viruslere karsi Symantec Antivirus ile taranmistir. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email may contain confidential information and/or attachments. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the email and any copies of it. This e-mail has been scanned by Symantec Antivirus for all known viruses.
RE: UMTS in Turkey?
No. There is no UMTS in Turkey now. Turkcell and Telsim (GSM Operators) tests UMTS but they dont have licence yet. Mehmet -Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:30 PM To: debian-user-tr Subject: UMTS in Turkey? Merhaba *, Sorry that I write in english, but my turkish sucks... It will be better if I come to Turkey. OK, I have a very big Motorcaravan/Mobilhome (88 tons) and currently using a Motorola RDX2000 via Satelit and a 120cm parabol. Quiet expensive for 80 kBit/Sec... I need a mobil Internet connection less expensive for arround 2-5 GByte Traffic per month (60% up-stream and 40% down-stream). Now UMTS is runing around the world, it will be an interesting solution. OK, currenly quiet expensive, because the german GSM-Provider O2 with sell the Data-Pack Volume 500 (500 hours or 500MB inclusive) for 104,50 Euro and 0,81 Euro/MByte or 0,81 Euro/10min plus. OK, need an additional Mobilcontract for 15 Euro again. I think, I will use the Merlin U630 (HW REV [0:55]), Revision 12.0 which is an UMTS-Modem with connections for 2 Telephons, 1 Fax, WLAN 1 LAN. Also it has a USB-Connector for a printer. But what about Turkey? If I use roaming then I will pay horribel, exactly much more as InmarSat or GlobalSat. Does anyone have Informations about it? GSM/UMTS-Provider, Prices? Oh yes, I have Bank-Accounts in Istanbul and Denizli. Thanks and Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIZLILIK NOTU Bu e-posta mesaji gizli, hassas bilgi ve/ya da ekler icerebilir. Bu mesaj, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilen kullanici/kullanicilara gonderilmistir. Eger mesaji yanlislikla almissaniz lutfen gondereni acilen bilgilendiriniz, mesaji ve tum kopyalarini siliniz. Bu mesaj bilinen tum viruslere karsi Symantec Antivirus ile taranmistir. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email may contain confidential information and/or attachments. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the email and any copies of it. This e-mail has been scanned by Symantec Antivirus for all known viruses.
RE: UMTS in Turkey?
Bu Turkcell has TurkcellConnect Mobile Modem Cards.It uses GPRS/EDGE. http://www.turkcell.com.tr/index/0,1028,300405,00.html Mehmet -Original Message- From: Mehmet Turker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:08 PM To: 'Michelle Konzack'; debian-user-tr Subject: RE: UMTS in Turkey? No. There is no UMTS in Turkey now. Turkcell and Telsim (GSM Operators) tests UMTS but they dont have licence yet. Mehmet -Original Message- From: Michelle Konzack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:30 PM To: debian-user-tr Subject: UMTS in Turkey? Merhaba *, Sorry that I write in english, but my turkish sucks... It will be better if I come to Turkey. OK, I have a very big Motorcaravan/Mobilhome (88 tons) and currently using a Motorola RDX2000 via Satelit and a 120cm parabol. Quiet expensive for 80 kBit/Sec... I need a mobil Internet connection less expensive for arround 2-5 GByte Traffic per month (60% up-stream and 40% down-stream). Now UMTS is runing around the world, it will be an interesting solution. OK, currenly quiet expensive, because the german GSM-Provider O2 with sell the Data-Pack Volume 500 (500 hours or 500MB inclusive) for 104,50 Euro and 0,81 Euro/MByte or 0,81 Euro/10min plus. OK, need an additional Mobilcontract for 15 Euro again. I think, I will use the Merlin U630 (HW REV [0:55]), Revision 12.0 which is an UMTS-Modem with connections for 2 Telephons, 1 Fax, WLAN 1 LAN. Also it has a USB-Connector for a printer. But what about Turkey? If I use roaming then I will pay horribel, exactly much more as InmarSat or GlobalSat. Does anyone have Informations about it? GSM/UMTS-Provider, Prices? Oh yes, I have Bank-Accounts in Istanbul and Denizli. Thanks and Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIZLILIK NOTU Bu e-posta mesaji gizli, hassas bilgi ve/ya da ekler icerebilir. Bu mesaj, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilen kullanici/kullanicilara gonderilmistir. Eger mesaji yanlislikla almissaniz lutfen gondereni acilen bilgilendiriniz, mesaji ve tum kopyalarini siliniz. Bu mesaj bilinen tum viruslere karsi Symantec Antivirus ile taranmistir. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email may contain confidential information and/or attachments. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the email and any copies of it. This e-mail has been scanned by Symantec Antivirus for all known viruses. GIZLILIK NOTU Bu e-posta mesaji gizli, hassas bilgi ve/ya da ekler icerebilir. Bu mesaj, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilen kullanici/kullanicilara gonderilmistir. Eger mesaji yanlislikla almissaniz lutfen gondereni acilen bilgilendiriniz, mesaji ve tum kopyalarini siliniz. Bu mesaj bilinen tum viruslere karsi Symantec Antivirus ile taranmistir. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email may contain confidential information and/or attachments. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately and delete the email and any copies of it. This e-mail has been scanned by Symantec Antivirus for all known viruses.
