Question: Why do you [not] candidate?

2009-03-27 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi

Hello,

The question seems very simple: Why do you [not] candidate?,
but I'm looking more about:
- Why only two candidates ?
- Is it good for campaign and discussions?
- Why so low interest for DPL?

ciao
cate


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Re: Amendment: automatic expiry-on-failure, to Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-27 Thread MJ Ray
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
 MJ Ray wrote:
  Replace clause c with c) if a year has passed, starting from the
  proposal of a general resolution, without any proposal receiving the
  required number of seconds, then this resolution expires and the
  required number of seconds returns to K.

 Although I understand where this is coming from, I have fairly strong 
 reservations about coding something like this in the constitution. For 
 one thing at some point we'd need yet another GR to revert the text to 
 its old form if the experiment were to fail.

I don't understand: the motivation for my amendments is to avoid
having yet another GR if the experiment were to fail... because if
the experiment fails, that means we don't have a viable GR process,
which means we're stuck and are responsible for running the project
aground.  I've been there, done that and want to avoid it here.

If the experiment succeeds (GR-2Q or whatever works fine), then it
needs another GR to make the increased seconding more permanent, but
that's as trivial as a GR can be.  The argument will be over and it'll
be a simple evidence-based decision IMO.

Hope that explains,
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Re: Amendment: automatic expiry-on-failure, to Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 06:38:30PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 01:52:43PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 08:43:16AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
   AMENDMENT START
   
   Replace too small with thought to be too small, but there is a
   lack of evidence about the correct level.
   
   Replace clause c with c) if a year has passed, starting from the 
   proposal of a general resolution, without any proposal receiving the
   required number of seconds, then this resolution expires and the
   required number of seconds returns to K.
   
   AMENDMENT END
  
  Seconded.
 
 What exactly are you seconding?  This is a proposal that modifies
 *3* of the other proposals.

Eh, not the way I read that. But, well, this amendment as applied to the
original proposal by Jorg.

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DPL 2009 election draft

2009-03-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Hi,

This is a draft for the 2009 DPL election ballot.

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