Re: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
On Sat, February 15, 2014 15:06, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: > I feel that if the GR results on the quoted above pool would > be different from TC - that may affect other TC decisions. > > Ian, would you like to sponsor GR in this form? > > PS: BTW, Guillem what's a status of this GR-proposal? With 1000 DD's there are more than enough people that can start a GR if they feel so. It seems strange to me that non-DD's need to be asking DD's on this list to please hold a vote amongst themselves. Thijs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/400a4e9fc1448296cd15bf1dd336bc25.squir...@aphrodite.kinkhorst.nl
Re: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Hello, On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 06:06:12PM +0400, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: > > PS: BTW, Guillem what's a status of this GR-proposal? > > No seconds. Many objections. Sorry, I don't see this. Second proposal actually has sponsors, e.g.: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/01/msg00054.html Cc'd Ian to clarify this assertion. > The TC has a decision. But not a consensus on this question, they clearly see that GR makes sense. That's a part of their resolution: -->8-- Should the project pass a General Resolution before the release of "jessie" asserting a "position statement about issues of the day" on init systems, that position replaces the outcome of this vote and is adopted by the Technical Committee as its own decision. -->8-- > The flame is finally smoldering out. Then please stop flamewars. > Can we move on as a project? Of course. But please don't identify only yourself with the Debian project. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140215154044.ga14...@darkstar.order.hcn-strela.ru
Re: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 06:06:12PM +0400, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: > PS: BTW, Guillem what's a status of this GR-proposal? No seconds. Many objections. The TC has a decision. The flame is finally smoldering out. Can we move on as a project? Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Matthew Vernon : > My feeling at this stage is that the TC are best placed to make a > decision on the technical merits of the various possible init > replacements and how we might deploy them in Debian. Given that there > is also a political element to this discussion, we could consider a GR > in the light of the TC decision But what about more simple GR, just like the pool from: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00281.html ? > we could consider a GR > in the light of the TC decision; pre-empting that decision would seem > likely to result in a vast pile of duplicated flame/effort. The TC decision about the default init is done. But not about other important things, like requirements/suggestions for maintainers to support alternative inits and so on. I feel that if the GR results on the quoted above pool would be different from TC - that may affect other TC decisions. Ian, would you like to sponsor GR in this form? PS: BTW, Guillem what's a status of this GR-proposal? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140215140612.ga13...@darkstar.order.hcn-strela.ru