Question to candidates: How do you plan to manage finances/accounting?

2024-03-21 Thread Nilesh Patra
I am interested in knowing about what the current candidates think about
accounting bits in Debian and how they think about spending the money.

As I have read and from time to time observed, the finances in the project
do not have a lot of transparency and there are updates posted semi-occasionally
on -private and sometimes in DPL talks. Jonathan also wrote about it in one of 
their
previous campaigns. Itd also be good to know if there's a plan on where the 
budget
shall be best spent.

I would like to know if the candidates for this term have any plans about it or 
any thoughts
in general.

Both of your platforms have only a (very) vague idea about it and I'd like to 
know more
specifics about it.

PS: I urge _only_ the candidates to reply to this mail 

Best,
Nilesh


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Re: Candidates question: politics and Debian

2024-03-21 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Gerardo Ballabio  wrote on 21/03/2024 at 
10:00:28+0100:

> Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> I can understand that you want the candidate's opinion on this (after
>> all it's important for a lot of people to chose someone with whom one
>> shares values)
>
> Yes, that's why I asked. One candidate already answered and I hope the
> other one will also share her opinions.
>
> But it was also interesting to know your opinions, and if that isn't
> deemed off-topic in the context of a DPL election, I'd like to hear
> the opinions of other non-candidates too.

I personally think it can be relevant.

That being said, taking a step back, I can appreciate how a lot of
people replying could drown a bit -vote.

>> Also, why on earth would you care whether people you've never met (and
>> probably never will meet) decide to transition and ask you to use a
>> different name/pronoun to address them?
>
> That is definitely off-topic. If you are interested in knowing my
> answer to that or to any other questions, feel free to contact me in
> private.

Well, feel free to drop a reply in my mailbox, then!

>> In a whole, I think it's interesting to see people asking the DPL to
>> take position regarding what they see as problematic to them instead of
>> taking the matter in their hands and submit resolution proposals for
>> these points.
>
> I kind of see your point -- but this is the discussion period for the
> DPL election, and this is the mailing list where the discussion is
> supposed to take place, and I was following up to another question
> asked to the candidates, so it seemed entirely appropriate to me to
> address them.
>
> And I believe that a GR would be the last resort, rather than the main
> way to address problems. Besides, initiating a discussion on this list
> would be the starting point for a GR process too.
>
> If you think it was wrong of me to ask that question, please elaborate.

I don't think that it's wrong in essence, although I think our PoV on
the matter would not be aligned (which is fine with me).

But I do think that, whatever a DPL/Candidate says on the matter, it'll
only potentially influence the voters in their votes, but not the way
things are in the project.

I wouldn't want to change the current general situation in the project,
but if I were to, I'd probably bring the matter to the members as a whole.

-- 
PEB


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Re: Candidates question: politics and Debian

2024-03-21 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> I can understand that you want the candidate's opinion on this (after
all it's important for a lot of people to chose someone with whom one
shares values)

Yes, that's why I asked. One candidate already answered and I hope the
other one will also share her opinions.

But it was also interesting to know your opinions, and if that isn't
deemed off-topic in the context of a DPL election, I'd like to hear
the opinions of other non-candidates too.

> Also, why on earth would you care whether people you've never met (and
probably never will meet) decide to transition and ask you to use a
different name/pronoun to address them?

That is definitely off-topic. If you are interested in knowing my
answer to that or to any other questions, feel free to contact me in
private.

> In a whole, I think it's interesting to see people asking the DPL to
take position regarding what they see as problematic to them instead of
taking the matter in their hands and submit resolution proposals for
these points.

I kind of see your point -- but this is the discussion period for the
DPL election, and this is the mailing list where the discussion is
supposed to take place, and I was following up to another question
asked to the candidates, so it seemed entirely appropriate to me to
address them.

And I believe that a GR would be the last resort, rather than the main
way to address problems. Besides, initiating a discussion on this list
would be the starting point for a GR process too.

If you think it was wrong of me to ask that question, please elaborate.

Gerardo