Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-23 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Very interesting thread.

== In short ==
tarballs must be redistributable, unpacked debian source package
should be DFSG-free, debian binary package must be DFSG-free.

== Long ==

1. Upstream tarball is not debian source

Cause you cannot build/run/understand anything if you just have a
bunch of tarballs.

2. If tarball is not redistributable

It belongs in non-free, or must be repackaged to become redistributable

3. Debian source is tarball + debian diff/tar unpacked

I you would like to guarantee to the users that unpacked debian source
is DFSG we should hook into unpack (similar to DpkgSrc3.0 / quilt) and
remove DFSG blobs at maintainers discretion for example by parsing
debian/copyright.

4. Pristine tarballs on mirrors are a benefit

They are still our "build-dependency" both for source and binary
packages. But if we keep them pristine in the archive we will become
mirrors for those upstreams. And it will give our users an opportunity
to learn/study/use those DFSG blobs which are not part of debian
source (definition 3 above).

5. This will reduce maintenance time

This change will result in maintainers spending less time by recuding
effort required for packaging software with non-DFSG-pristine-tarball.
Debian developer time is precious and very limited and IMHO should be
used as efficiently as possible.

6. Above is inline with DFSG

DFSG are guidelines and this is my interpretation. I am not lawyer / DD.


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Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

2010-03-22 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 22 March 2010 20:50, Mike Hommey  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> > Anthony Towns wrote:
>> >
>> > >   * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
>> > > users and free software",
>> > >   * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
>> > >   * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
>> > >   * that this is something of a trick question,
>> >
>> > That results in a different question for me: Does Ubuntu enforce the usage 
>> > of
>> > pocon, and should Debian do so, too?
>>
>> I don't know whether Ubuntu does that; and frankly, I don't think it
>> holds any relevance to what we do.
>
> OTOH, if popcon is mandatory on Ubuntu, it means the popcon result for
> Ubuntu more or less reflects the number of Ubuntu users. It also means
> that, according to your estimate of the number of Debian users, Ubuntu
> is not as far ahead as at least I would have thought.
>
> Mike
>

Popcon is not enabled by default in Ubuntu. There is a tickbox in
"advance" button during installation to enable it as well as in
synaptic (like on debian).

With regards,

Dima.


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Question to all Candidates: Heated discussions

2010-03-13 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Hello =)

Sometimes technical Debian discussions (mailing lists, bug reports,
blog posts, etc.) become personal flame-wars.

Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is
acceptable for the Debian project?
What would you do to reduce those?

--Dima.


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Question to all Candidate: In ten years...

2010-03-13 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Hello =)

Please finish "In ten years I'd like Debian"

--Dima


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