Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements
Very interesting thread. == In short == tarballs must be redistributable, unpacked debian source package should be DFSG-free, debian binary package must be DFSG-free. == Long == 1. Upstream tarball is not debian source Cause you cannot build/run/understand anything if you just have a bunch of tarballs. 2. If tarball is not redistributable It belongs in non-free, or must be repackaged to become redistributable 3. Debian source is tarball + debian diff/tar unpacked I you would like to guarantee to the users that unpacked debian source is DFSG we should hook into unpack (similar to DpkgSrc3.0 / quilt) and remove DFSG blobs at maintainers discretion for example by parsing debian/copyright. 4. Pristine tarballs on mirrors are a benefit They are still our "build-dependency" both for source and binary packages. But if we keep them pristine in the archive we will become mirrors for those upstreams. And it will give our users an opportunity to learn/study/use those DFSG blobs which are not part of debian source (definition 3 above). 5. This will reduce maintenance time This change will result in maintainers spending less time by recuding effort required for packaging software with non-DFSG-pristine-tarball. Debian developer time is precious and very limited and IMHO should be used as efficiently as possible. 6. Above is inline with DFSG DFSG are guidelines and this is my interpretation. I am not lawyer / DD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ecb3c71003231732r7a82fefare15fe3f07d89c...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?
On 22 March 2010 20:50, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> > Anthony Towns wrote: >> > >> > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our >> > > users and free software", >> > > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions, >> > > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and >> > > * that this is something of a trick question, >> > >> > That results in a different question for me: Does Ubuntu enforce the usage >> > of >> > pocon, and should Debian do so, too? >> >> I don't know whether Ubuntu does that; and frankly, I don't think it >> holds any relevance to what we do. > > OTOH, if popcon is mandatory on Ubuntu, it means the popcon result for > Ubuntu more or less reflects the number of Ubuntu users. It also means > that, according to your estimate of the number of Debian users, Ubuntu > is not as far ahead as at least I would have thought. > > Mike > Popcon is not enabled by default in Ubuntu. There is a tickbox in "advance" button during installation to enable it as well as in synaptic (like on debian). With regards, Dima. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ecb3c71003221412n384b7ce8ofc750db0bcf92...@mail.gmail.com
Question to all Candidates: Heated discussions
Hello =) Sometimes technical Debian discussions (mailing lists, bug reports, blog posts, etc.) become personal flame-wars. Do you think current frequency/amount of heated discussions is acceptable for the Debian project? What would you do to reduce those? --Dima. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ecb3c71003131840j23d35b0au5c5c265019c99...@mail.gmail.com
Question to all Candidate: In ten years...
Hello =) Please finish "In ten years I'd like Debian" --Dima -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ecb3c71003131835uaa3e0f7q5708cabdf99c7...@mail.gmail.com