[draft] Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20
This is a draft for a GR I would like to propose. Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20 -- ### Whereas 1. the World Health organization (WHO) declared COVID-19 as a global pandemic [1] as of March 11th and has not yet lifted this. 2. the Debian Project has planned its annual Developer's conference DebConf20 [2] to take place in Hafia, Israel during August 23rd to 29th. 3. the DebConf organizers have opened the registration for this year's conference[3]. ### The Debian Project resolves 1. that organizing DebConf as an in-person event in August 2020 is endangering it's participants **and** others. 2. it persuades the conference organizers to cancel this years conference as on-site in-person conference. 3. it encourages all conference organizers to postpone any on-site developer gatherings organized in the name of the Debian Project until the WHO has declared this global pandemic as being over. 4. that it has the technical expertise to hold such an event on-line. ### Rational 1. During Debian's Developers Conference participants from all over the world will gather together from different health systems and different cultures. 2. Debian Developers of all ages and with different health conditions will travel to this conference. 3. Debian as a project wants to ensure the wellbeing of all of its Developers and of other participants of such an event, as well as all later contact persons of all participants. 4. The Debian project should be an archetype for technical conferences of this kind, both technically and socially. [1] https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---11-march-2020 [2] https://debconf20.debconf.org/ [3] https://lists.debian.org/debconf-announce/2020/05/msg1.html -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Q: what could you do better this year?
Hi Chris, i know we have only one candidate and i think that you did a very good job in the past year, but i would still be interested: If you think about the past year, where do you think you could optimize your performance? What do you think you could do better this year compared to the past year? Best regards, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B
Re: Q to all candidates: spending money
Hi, question to all candidates: Will you revoke <20131008134615.ga19...@xanadu.blop.info> or do you think this authorization is useful? Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150312220721.gp26...@ftbfs.de
Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2015: Call for nominations
Hi, On Tue Mar 10, 2015 at 19:13:10 +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 08:06:11PM +0100, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt > Roeckx wrote: > > Prospective leaders should be familiar with the constitution, but > > just to review: there's a one week period when interested > > developers can nominate themselves and announce their platform, > > followed by a three week period intended for campaigning, followed > > by two weeks for the election itself. > > Hi, > > I hereby nominate myself as a candidate for the 2015 DPL election. > > Dear DSA, until the outcome of the election is clear, please remove me > from gid 1231 and 1183 (secretary and debvote), as well as the > secret...@debian.org alias. all three done, modulo puppet/udldap run. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150310192228.go26...@ftbfs.de
Re: GR proposal, Call for Seconds - term limit for the tech-ctte
Hi, On Mon Dec 01, 2014 at 12:20:25 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > [ Cross post -vote, -project ; M-F-T: to -vote. > > For more background information on the development of this proposal, > see https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/11/msg00274.html ] > > I'm hereby formally submitting the GR proposal included below between > dashed double lines, and calling for seconds. With respect to past > discussions on the -vote mailing list, this is the proposal code-named > "2-S"; see [1,2] for (the last known versions of) alternative proposals. > > [1]: https://people.debian.org/~zack/gr-ctte-term-limit/ > [2]: http://git.upsilon.cc/?p=text/gr-ctte-term-limit.git;a=tree > > === > The Constitution is amended as follows: > > --- > --- constitution.txt.orig 2014-11-17 18:02:53.314945907 +0100 > +++ constitution.2-S.txt 2014-11-21 16:56:47.328071287 +0100 > @@ -299,8 +299,20 @@ > Project Leader may appoint new member(s) until the number of > members reaches 6, at intervals of at least one week per > appointment. > -5. If the Technical Committee and the Project Leader agree they may > +5. A Developer is not eligible to be (re)appointed to the Technical > + Committee if they have been a member within the previous 12 months. > +6. If the Technical Committee and the Project Leader agree they may > remove or replace an existing member of the Technical Committee. > +7. Term limit: > + 1. On January 1st of each year the term of any Committee member > +who has served more than 42 months (3.5 years) and who is one > +of the two most senior members is set to expire on December > +31st of that year. > + 2. A member of the Technical Committee is said to be more senior > +than another if they were appointed earlier, or were appointed > +at the same time and have been a member of the Debian Project > +longer. In the event that a member has been appointed more > +than once, only the most recent appointment is relevant. > >6.3. Procedure > > --- > Seconded. -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [DRAFT #2] Maximum term for tech ctte members
Hi, On Tue Nov 18, 2014 at 21:49:52 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > === > The Constitution is amended as follows: > > --- > --- constitution.txt.orig 2014-11-17 18:02:53.314945907 +0100 > +++ constitution.txt.new 2014-11-18 21:17:30.544040579 +0100 > @@ -299,8 +299,22 @@ > Project Leader may appoint new member(s) until the number of > members reaches 6, at intervals of at least one week per > appointment. > -5. If the Technical Committee and the Project Leader agree they may > +5. A Developer is not eligible to be (re)appointed to the Technical > + Committee if they have been a member within the previous 12 months. > +6. If the Technical Committee and the Project Leader agree they may > remove or replace an existing member of the Technical Committee. > +7. Term limit: > + 1. Membership of the Technical Committee is automatically > +reviewed on the 1st of January of each year. At this time, the > +terms of members who were appointed at least four and a half > +years (54 months) ago automatically expire. Expiry occurs in > +order of seniority, most senior members first, and is limited > +to at most 2 members per year. > + 2. A member of the Technical Committee is said to be more senior > +than another if they were appointed earlier, or were appointed > +at the same time and have been a member of the Debian Project > +longer. In the event that a member has been appointed more > + than once, only the most recent appointment is relevant. *second* -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: Digital signature
to Moray: being Debconf chair and DPL?
Hi Moray, if you are ellected as DPL, will you stay Debconf chair, which is a delegation you got from the current DPL? How can you tell the project which decission you do as DPL and which as Debconf chair? In your platform you only say you might to less for Debconf while being DPL. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130319193405.gr31...@ftbfs.de
[to all candidates] about a DPL board
Hi, in the past i heared several ideas about a Debian Project Leader board similar to the SPI board. So lets imagine the project would have to vote for several members of this sort of board, with every member being on-board for (lets say) 3y. What do you think about this idea? Would it be worth in long term to establish such a leader board (and therefore a change to our current constitution) for the Debian Project, or do you think the DPL should stay a single person? Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[to all candidates] using debian funds for Debian's hardware infrastructure
Hi, in the past Debian had some generous donors, who donated a huge amounts of high quality hardware on regual basis to the Debian project. For some reasons (not to be discussed here) those sources dont exist any more. As this hardware comes to the end of it's lifecycle, DSA will need to buy new hardware. To keep up our standards on hardware for core infrastrucure, DSA will need to spend several 10k USD on new hardware in the next year. @all: do you think it is worth spending large amount of money donated to Debian to keep our core hardware infrastructure on its current level? @all: do you think Debian should do a fundraising campain where we collect a larger amount of money dedicated to Debian's hardware infrastructure? @lucas, @algernon: in your platform you are not stating how you will handle money requests, and what do you think about using Debian's money at all. Can you please elaborate? Cheers, Martin PS: @moray: can you tell DSA the lottery numbers of next week please? -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Why do you think you are a good candidate for DPL
Hi, this question goes to all candidates: Why do you think you are a good candidate for the next DPL term? Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer Debian Listmaster http://about.me/zobel Debian Webmaster GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130310124055.gr20...@ftbfs.de
Stefano Zacchiroli: What would you do different
Hi Zack, you are 2 years DPL already. In your current platform you state in 1.2 why you want to stand for DPL an other year. Are there any areas within your current DPL work where you think you will do completly different to the other two years? Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster GPG key http://go.debian.net/B11B627B | GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120312151011.gm29...@ftbfs.de
Comments on the constitution?
Hi, during the last DPL voting period, a question [1] about the current length of the DPL period came up. This topic was also discussed during recent DebConf11. While I do not want to come up with a change of the constitution at this point, I would like to hear a broader opinion on that topic. And while i was looking on our constitution, i found it doesn't say any given procedure if a DPL wants to step down. Kurt said to me during DebConf11 that, if that happens, he will immediately start an election process. Still i think, this should be clarified in the current constitution. Cheers, Martin [1] <20110319142059.ga31...@upsilon.cc> -- Martin Zobel-Helas | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster GPG key http://go.debian.net/B11B627B | GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110811100845.gw22...@ftbfs.de
Question for Stefano: Length of the DPL term
Hi Stefano, in your platform you wrote that you experienced that serving as DPL is a task with a rather long bootstrap time. You didn't wrote how long this exactly was, but i guess something about 2-3 month. Given that the voting period (seeking for candidates, campaining and vote period itself) is about two month, and one needs to prepare oneself to that, i looks to me, that a real DPL term is more like 8 month rather than a year. Now my question: What do you think about changing the constitution to extend the length of the DPL term to, lets say, two years? Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster GPG key http://go.debian.net/B11B627B | GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Question to all Candidates: Project Funds and donations
Hi, On Sun Mar 14, 2010 at 22:10:30 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - it is not easy enough accessible to DDs (I know, it is enough to > become a SPI member and subscribe to the list, but I still believe it > should be _easier_, e.g. a directory somewhere with archived .txt > files accessible to all DDs) SPI's Treasurer, Michael Schultheiss, (and by the way Debian Developer) does a really good job by sending out monthly Treasurer's Reports which are in every monthly meeting minutes linked from http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/meeting-minutes Greetings Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster Public key http://zobel.ftbfs.de/5d64f870.asc - KeyID: 5D64 F870 GPG Fingerprint: 5DB3 1301 375A A50F 07E7 302F 493E FB8E 5D64 F870 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100315221302.gk23...@ftbfs.de
Question to all Candidates: Project Funds and donations
Hi, this question goes to all candidates: The Debian Project receives quite a number of monetary donations as well as contributions in kind via several umbrella organization like SPI, ffis, debian.ch, etc. a) What do you think are valid goals to spend this money on? b) How would you think is a valid way to thank (hardware) contributors? b) What qualifies a contributor to become a "Debian Partner"? What qualifies a "Debian Partner"? Greetings Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster Public key http://zobel.ftbfs.de/5d64f870.asc - KeyID: 5D64 F870 GPG Fingerprint: 5DB3 1301 375A A50F 07E7 302F 493E FB8E 5D64 F870 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Possible amendment for Debian Contributors concept (was: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.)
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:21:57AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Hi, > > I really dislike the negative tone of the original proposed resolution, > so I am thinking of proposing this as an alternative option. > > The text I'm thinking about is currently this: > > | The Debian Project recognizes that many contributors to the project are > | not working withing established frameworks of Debian and thus are not > | provided by the project with as much help as might be possible, useful > | or required. > | . > | We thank Joerg Jaspert for exploring ideas on how to involve > | contributors more closely with the project so that they can get both > | recognition and the necessary tools to do their work. > | . > | We realize that the proposal posted to the debian-devel-announce > | mailinglist is not yet finalized and may not have the support of a large > | part of our community. We invite the DAM to further develop his ideas > | in close coordination with other members of the project, and to present > | a new and improved proposal on the project's mailinglists in the future, > | at least two weeks prior to any planned implementation. > > This is not a call for seconds yet, but a request for comments. > > So, any changes that should be made before it gets proposed, if it will? I like it, and would second it. -- Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Debian System Administrator Debian & GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster Public key http://zobel.ftbfs.de/5d64f870.asc - KeyID: 5D64 F870 GPG Fingerprint: 5DB3 1301 375A A50F 07E7 302F 493E FB8E 5D64 F870 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Results for General Resolution: Endorse concept of Debian maintainers
Hi, On Sat Aug 04, 2007 at 19:54:00 -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > Hi, > > The resolution passes, with 386 votes from 345 developers. > > The winners are: >Option 1 "Endorse the concept of Debian Maintainers" > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > So what is the next step now? I propose that i reassign all my applicants to aj/buxy and stop being AM... Who else will do that? Greetings Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Q 2 all candidates: Usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, [ Please don't CC me, i am reading d-vote actively ] According to lists.debian.org, two of our current mailinglists have the following use: debian-news@lists.debian.org: | Debian News, weekly and otherwise | General news about the distribution and the project. | | The current events and news about Debian are summarized in the Debian | Weekly News, a newsletter regularly posted on this list. | | All posts to this list are moderated. debian-announce@lists.debian.org: | Important announcements | Major news and very important changes in the project are announced here. | | All posts to this list are moderated. Both mailing lists are currently moderated by only one person, Martin 'Joey' Schulze, who is the only one allowed to be posting there. In the past, there have been several attempts e.g. by the release team to send postings to one of those lists directly. In all cases this has been rejected by Joey, in one case he altered the text in a way the release team was not quite happy about the outcome. The release team was not the only group who tried to send posts there; i remember very well that a posting to d-news about Debian participation in Googles Summer of Code 2006 was send out on May 8th 16:30 Central European Summer Time), while Students were able to apply 'til May 8th (17:00 Pacific Daylight Time). From what i know, is, that the draft for this post sent to the press team much earlier. IMHO things like this could have been avoided by having a proper team behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] and those both mailing lists which is at least 4 persons. How do you plan help the press team out here? Do you think a delegation of one person is enough for the press team this far? And to AJ: In your mail "ajt's anti-rebuttal"[1] you have a whole paragraph about "Bigger teams" and a whole paragraph about "Debian publicity". Do you think you performed well in those both categories as DPL? What would you do to "encourage the press to talk to other people in the project than just the DPL" next year? Greetings Martin [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2007/03/msg00262.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives
Hi, this question is for all candidates: How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? What whould you do to support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to integrate them into official Debian structure? Martin [1] http://www.debian-unofficial.org/ http://www.backports.org/ http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ and others. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DPL 2007 (Resend)
Hi, On Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 11:21:38 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > it appears as if my first mail was reflowed at some point, which made > > the signature go bad. > > It fails again here... it doesn't fail for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the 2IC
Hi, On Tue Feb 20, 2007 at 09:37:44 +, MJ Ray wrote: > Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to devel-announce: [...] > > What else is coming soon? We're part-way into the DPL election process > > for 2007[13]. I've just announced I'm standing again this year; [...] > > Campaigning period is February 25th - March 18th. > The above is 5 days early, isn't it? > Is campaigning on devel-announce this year? So where is this campaigning? This is just a report on what he did last year, which was (IMHO) overdue. Go and play somewhere else Greetings Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted
Hi, On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 13:13:36 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > -vote dropped > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:06:01PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > Maintaining a buildd isn't trivial, there's: > > > > > > - making sure they don't get rooted, and their builds compromised > > > - keeping the chroot up to date > > > - keeping in sync with w-b / sbuild changes > > > - keeping in sync with the infrastructure upstream (building from > > > incoming, > > > access to the buildd.d.o, etc) > > > - keeping the hardware available and running > > > - keeping the buildd building packages that will work > > > > > > It's not /that/ hard either (even if it's not something I could do without > > > a chunk of learning), but basically, yeah there are technical constraints. > > > The only policy constraint is that we're aiming to keep the number of > > > buildds limited to two or three per architecture (where possible); the > > > social constraints are mostly about convincingly demonstrating that the > > > technical constraints will be met on an ongoing basis. > > i think someone running more than one autobuilder for more than _two_ > > years now (okay, not for the officical archive, but i see that as > > nonrelevant here) demonstrats very good that he mets your mentioned > > technical constraints. > > AIUI, Aurelian doesn't have the capability to run a non-emulated arm > buildd. While http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=25 is a good demonstration > of some things, I don't think it's the level of buildd we want for our > release architectures. > > In general, I could pretty easily imagine a buildd that fails every one of > those points still being suitable for a non-release arch for two years. I didn't thought of Aurelien, but of a few other persons, who are acting as buildd maintainers for experimental and non-free packages. Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted
Hi, > Maintaining a buildd isn't trivial, there's: > > - making sure they don't get rooted, and their builds compromised > - keeping the chroot up to date > - keeping in sync with w-b / sbuild changes > - keeping in sync with the infrastructure upstream (building from > incoming, > access to the buildd.d.o, etc) > - keeping the hardware available and running > - keeping the buildd building packages that will work > > It's not /that/ hard either (even if it's not something I could do without > a chunk of learning), but basically, yeah there are technical constraints. > The only policy constraint is that we're aiming to keep the number of > buildds limited to two or three per architecture (where possible); the > social constraints are mostly about convincingly demonstrating that the > technical constraints will be met on an ongoing basis. i think someone running more than one autobuilder for more than _two_ years now (okay, not for the officical archive, but i see that as nonrelevant here) demonstrats very good that he mets your mentioned technical constraints. Greetings Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal to delay the decition of the DPL of the withdrawal of the Package Policy Committee delegation
On Fri Oct 27, 2006 at 18:14:09 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:10:46PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > If this immediate vote is compliant with the constitutional requirements > (which afaics it's not), please consider the voting period varied to > one week. I don't see the reason here to reduce the time of the voting period. I understand "immediate vote" as per constitution as "voting without prior discussion period". Please give a reasonable argument, why the voting period for this GR should be reduced to one week. Greetings Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal to delay the decition of the DPL of the withdrawal of the Package Policy Committee delegation
*seconded* On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:40:43PM CEST, Martin Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree with the Policy delegation decision of our DPL [1] and > therefore propose a resolution as defined in section 4.2.2 of the Debian > constitution to delay the decision of the Debian Project Leader keeping > the Package Policy Committee as defined[2] in place until the Debian > Project Leader has found at least three people "who'll be active in > maintaining policy according to the policy process"[3] and delegates > them. Consequently the REJECT for uploads of debian-policy must be > removed. > > My reason for this proposal is the impression the revocation of the > delegation is based on the disagreement of the interpretation of the > policy between the chair of the Package Policy Committee and the Debian > Project Leader. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00233.html > [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00017.html > [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00238.html Greetings Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas GPG Key-ID:0x5d64f870 Debian DevelopereMail Privat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Stable Release Manager eMail Debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware
1. reaffirms its dedication to providing a 100% free system to our > users according to our Social Contract and the DFSG; and > > 2. encourages authors of all works to make those works available not > only under licenses that permit modification, but also in forms that make > such modifications practical; and > > 3. supports the decision of the Release Team to require works such as > images, video, and fonts to be licensed in compliance with the DFSG without > requiring source code for these works under DFSG #2; and > > 4. determines that for the purposes of DFSG #2, device firmware > shall also not be considered a program. > > == > > Cheers, > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- Martin Zobel-Helas GPG Key-ID:0x5d64f870 Debian DevelopereMail Privat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Stable Release Manager eMail Debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware
providing a 100% free system to our > users according to our Social Contract and the DFSG; and > > 2. encourages authors of all works to make those works available not > only under licenses that permit modification, but also in forms that make > such modifications practical; and > > 3. supports the decision of the Release Team to require works such as > images, video, and fonts to be licensed in compliance with the DFSG without > requiring source code for these works under DFSG #2; and > > 4. determines that for the purposes of DFSG #2, device firmware > shall also not be considered a program. > > == > > Cheers, > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- Martin Zobel-Helas GPG Key-ID:0x5d64f870 Debian DevelopereMail Privat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Stable Release Manager eMail Debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions to candidates Towns and van Wolffelaar: debian-volatile
Hi Ari, On Wednesday, 08 Mar 2006, you wrote: > Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > >1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile? > >... more questions about volatile ... > > Wasn't this just asked by Joey? yes, in some parts. But as i consider myself as one of the debian-volatile team, i had some more (extended) questions. Am i not allowed to ask them? Greetings Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question for all candidates: handle debian-admin more openly
Hi, the past, there were some issues that seem to indicate that the current Debian System Administrator team (DSA team) is overworked, as problems were not adressed in a timely fashion. The following just lists some of these issues: * Problems with one of the security.debian.org host network connection [ http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/02/msg00047.html ] * Packages.debian.org down [ http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/01/msg00017.html ] * Host Relocation and host sought [ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00016.html ] Have there been any actions taken? There is no way at the moment to see any progress of the issues in public. Now my question: 1.) Do you think it would be a good idea to handle debian-admin more openly? 2.) Would you encourage debian-admin to do so? If yes, how? 3.) Do you think more DSA are needed? Greetings Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
