Re: GR proposal: remove obsolete reference to CDs from SC

2016-10-01 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 01:09:58PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> 
> > While we could update the wording to say s/CD/optical medium/ (or
> > something similar), SC seems like an odd place to give Debian redistributors
> > legal advice.
> 
> I would have thought something like this would be best:
> 
> We encourage redistributors to read the licenses of the packages in
> these areas and determine if they can distribute the packages.

That seems a better solution to me. -Ralf.



Re: GR: welcome non-packaging contributors as Debian project members

2010-09-14 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructure and website maintenance, porting, bug triaging and
> fixing, management activities, communication, testing, legal advice,
> quality assurance, etc.
> 
> The Debian project acknowledges that:
> 
> * To pursue Debian goals, package maintenance as well as a wide range of
>   other technical and non-technical contributions are all valuable.
> 
> * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
>   and are ready to uphold Debian Foundation Documents, deserve the
>   opportunity for becoming Debian project members.
> 
> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
> 
> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
>   Debian Developers without upload rights to the Debian archive. These
>   new developers shall be recognized as Debian Contributors (DC).
> 
> * Establish procedures to evaluate and accept Debian Contributors.
> 
> * Initiate the appropriate technical measures to enable Debian
>   Contributors to participate in Debian decision making and to access
>   Debian infrastructure.
> ---

Seconded. -Ralf.


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Apology (was: Re: Debate announcement and call for votes)

2002-03-10 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 12:32:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 06:27:02PM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:

> > I don't believe it. Having a panel discussion at a time which is in
> > the middle of the night for one of the candidates is completely
> > unacceptable. I interpret this as a blatant attempt to put Rapha?l
> > at a disadvantage in the panel.
> 
> Yeah. The panel is against Raphael. We want to intentionally sabotage
> his chances at becoming the DPL. We are a US Cabal.

I wish to apologize to Ben for blaming him for volontary unfairness
towards a candidate. I was expecting that Ben (or whoever is in charge)
makes an attempt to propose conditions which are reasonable for all 
candidates in the first place. Seeing that this was not the case made
the red lights go for me.  Luckily, Raphael showed much more reason and
moderation than me in his reaction.

-Ralf.



Apology (was: Re: Debate announcement and call for votes)

2002-03-10 Thread Ralf Treinen

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 12:32:02PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 06:27:02PM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:

> > I don't believe it. Having a panel discussion at a time which is in
> > the middle of the night for one of the candidates is completely
> > unacceptable. I interpret this as a blatant attempt to put Rapha?l
> > at a disadvantage in the panel.
> 
> Yeah. The panel is against Raphael. We want to intentionally sabotage
> his chances at becoming the DPL. We are a US Cabal.

I wish to apologize to Ben for blaming him for volontary unfairness
towards a candidate. I was expecting that Ben (or whoever is in charge)
makes an attempt to propose conditions which are reasonable for all 
candidates in the first place. Seeing that this was not the case made
the red lights go for me.  Luckily, Raphael showed much more reason and
moderation than me in his reaction.

-Ralf.


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Re: Debate announcement and call for votes

2002-03-09 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 11:28:44AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:17:07PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Le Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:10:29AM -0500, Ben Collins ?crivait:
> > > We have tentatively scheduled an IRC Debate for the DPL candidates
> > > around March 23rd 04:00 UTC. The times for the US work out to:
> > 
> > Ben, given my timezone it's a bit hard for me. That would be
> > 05:00 am here... I guess anything between 08:00 UTC and 23:00 UTC
> > is acceptable for me.
> 
> I want to get feedback from the candidates, since the times should
> prefer their schedule. We as panelists can either work around it, or
> give our regrets and not show.

I don't believe it. Having a panel discussion at a time which is in
the middle of the night for one of the candidates is completely
unacceptable. I interpret this as a blatant attempt to put Raphaël
at a disadvantage in the panel.

-Ralf.
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Re: Debate announcement and call for votes

2002-03-09 Thread Ralf Treinen

On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 11:28:44AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:17:07PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Le Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:10:29AM -0500, Ben Collins ?crivait:
> > > We have tentatively scheduled an IRC Debate for the DPL candidates
> > > around March 23rd 04:00 UTC. The times for the US work out to:
> > 
> > Ben, given my timezone it's a bit hard for me. That would be
> > 05:00 am here... I guess anything between 08:00 UTC and 23:00 UTC
> > is acceptable for me.
> 
> I want to get feedback from the candidates, since the times should
> prefer their schedule. We as panelists can either work around it, or
> give our regrets and not show.

I don't believe it. Having a panel discussion at a time which is in
the middle of the night for one of the candidates is completely
unacceptable. I interpret this as a blatant attempt to put Raphaël
at a disadvantage in the panel.

-Ralf.
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