Re: [Soc-coordination] mentoring programs in Debian
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > And I also think that in terms of internship programs (=~ "full-time > work inside the project during the summer"), we should explore joining > other programs and/or creating our own. If there's anything that I hope to see happen from this discussion, it's probably the above. I think that Debian can benefit greatly from having its own (semi-)formal internship/mentorship program, in addition to existing channels (i.e. mailing lists and IRC). The closest thing we have right now are team initiatives like Debian Med's MoM, but I'm hoping for a project-wide initiative. We want to attract contributors to the project that stay long-term, and having a bit of a personalized touch would definitely help new and prospective contributors to stay and engage with the rest of the community, and to continue working on Debian even after GSoC/GCI, or whatever internship program they were involved in, ends. I'm not sure about the details, but we could look into establishing something similar to X.org's EVoC [1] program, although possibly without the cash prizes (I doubt that there's going to be enough interest for funding to be justified). Regards, Vincent [1] http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgEVoC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caczd_ta1t4zxr3rjnxwsqutlxxajbapekzfyljtu2_twtar...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Soc-coordination] mentoring programs in Debian
Hi Ana, On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 14:14 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote: > I see your point. In these cases, the "mentor" was more treating the GSoC > program as a bounty program or a way to have "contractors" paid at the expense > of somebody else. It wasn't a real mentoring scheme. > > This kind of mentoring "let's package this new software stack" (and create > a team to maintain it, when it doesn't exist) doesn't need to happen inside > the GSoC, it can happen already in Debian. In fact, some Debian teams already > do this, but fail to announce it clearly. When an interested user ask, > we tend to say: "if you want new version of X in Debian, we need help" instead > of "we welcome new contributors. If you don't have a lot of experience, don't > worry, we'll mentor you! Please take a look at this and if you can questions > mails us to X and/or join us in IRC" or something along these lines :) Would you mind elaborating on this? The background to this is that I am currently considering mentoring the "Leiningen & Clojure packaging" project [0] and your comments make me think twice about commiting to this. I thought that the proposal has merit and would allow an interested student to gather valuable insights into Debian and its packaging infrastructure or tooling. [0] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2013/Projects#Leiningen_.26_Clojure_packaging -- Wolodja 4096R/CAF14EFC 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
