Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
Alessio Treglia writes (Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)): Il giorno dom, 19/10/2014 alle 14.59 +0100, Ian Jackson ha scritto: I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum discussion period (A.2(4)). ... Seconded. Thanks, but the proposer of a GR does not need seconds for their own amendments. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21572.59918.752013.219...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: Alessio Treglia writes (Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)): Il giorno dom, 19/10/2014 alle 14.59 +0100, Ian Jackson ha scritto: I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum discussion period (A.2(4)). ... Seconded. Just noticed that after reviewing the GR procedure once again. Honestly it was not really clear to me. Sorry about that. Thanks. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAMHuwozC8h=h01-omtniwb2mgudake7iooqzpa+2ucrey82...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 02:59:16PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: (CC secretary@ to avoid this getting overlooked in the mail flood.) I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum discussion period (A.2(4)). Received and valid Neil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141020181427.gi18...@halon.org.uk
Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 (CC secretary@ to avoid this getting overlooked in the mail flood.) I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum discussion period (A.2(4)). For the avoidance of any doubt, I currently intend to not accept any further amendments. That means that the minimum discussion period will not be extended any further (unless the DPL intervenes). I currently intend to call for a vote when the minimum discussion period elapses, 2 weeks from now. The amendment is in two parts: I. In section 2, `Loose coupling of init systems', in the text `may not require a specific init system', replace `a' by `one': - In general, software may not require a specific init system to be + In general, software may not require one specific init system to be Explanation: Some people seem to have understood the previous text as must work with *all* init systems. I want to clarify that we just mean that software should not be tied to one specific init system. II. Insert new numbered section: + 3. As far as we are aware there are currently (17th of October) no +bugs in jessie which would be declared RC by this GR. + +Given the late passage of this resolution, we expect that any +intractable bugs which are RC by virtue only of this resolution +would be tagged by the release team as `jessie-ignore'. + +So this proposal is not thought to add blockers to the jessie +release. And, renumber the already-existing section 3 to be section 4: - 3. Notes and rubric + 3. Notes and rubric Explanation: It has become clear from the discussion that it is necessary to explicitly explain the intended effect for jessie. Comment: The new section 3 does not need any powers of the Technical Committee - indeed, it is purely informational and advisory. So it is not part of the amendment's to the TC's resolution of the 11th of February. Thanks, Ian. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUQ8OQAAoJEOPjOSNItQ05My8H/0LczpoZ+A2tDzrcdPgHv/yG qb0o62lLn/f9heO7+vQ1zNjVsyp0JlsiXSk3TrekKOuWCDiKz9ODtnpFrNefKtg8 iKdrcCvLVQECQZmv93FyxGkinu5X+TPe5fB4R3AsW14lVCYy8nztwArlRiPicFmC /x2ThWpb5AW3UTgwgpxCAaUllUypzCn3N+D3xsstmmrkXDa/xxxyj5xeOwWMIPe3 AD75cPj/RRNczGmoXsH8q6T2tNqiM02x9tRCEiOnG8QNYGlXU/OqtIclgtlcUUWj 8Hl1aOURogRNJyJur1dbyzCHgCa7Czzt00j0v7TO+7cIcBhIiXQcub/atCN9I44= =WwRe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21571.50100.535932.996...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
Hi, Il giorno dom, 19/10/2014 alle 14.59 +0100, Ian Jackson ha scritto: I hereby formally propose the amendment below (Constitution A.1(1) `directly by proposer'), and, then, immediately accept it (A.1(2)). This resets the minimum discussion period (A.2(4)). For the avoidance of any doubt, I currently intend to not accept any further amendments. That means that the minimum discussion period will not be extended any further (unless the DPL intervenes). I currently intend to call for a vote when the minimum discussion period elapses, 2 weeks from now. The amendment is in two parts: I. In section 2, `Loose coupling of init systems', in the text `may not require a specific init system', replace `a' by `one': - In general, software may not require a specific init system to be + In general, software may not require one specific init system to be Explanation: Some people seem to have understood the previous text as must work with *all* init systems. I want to clarify that we just mean that software should not be tied to one specific init system. II. Insert new numbered section: + 3. As far as we are aware there are currently (17th of October) no +bugs in jessie which would be declared RC by this GR. + +Given the late passage of this resolution, we expect that any +intractable bugs which are RC by virtue only of this resolution +would be tagged by the release team as `jessie-ignore'. + +So this proposal is not thought to add blockers to the jessie +release. And, renumber the already-existing section 3 to be section 4: - 3. Notes and rubric + 3. Notes and rubric Explanation: It has become clear from the discussion that it is necessary to explicitly explain the intended effect for jessie. Comment: The new section 3 does not need any powers of the Technical Committee - indeed, it is purely informational and advisory. So it is not part of the amendment's to the TC's resolution of the 11th of February. Seconded. Cheers. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Ian Jackson writes (Amendment (Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)): And, renumber the already-existing section 3 to be section 4: - 3. Notes and rubric + 3. Notes and rubric Don points out to me in private email that this should read: + 4. Notes and rubric Thanks, Ian. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJURAulAAoJEOPjOSNItQ054qUIAIR+tYnftyuOd+zroeW3KO/J j0wZmuIjKheHs0JNeURZ9+mkwZm5Z/XpsqoKsols7Li/qzLLarhmyYzCaFDjx4fV UR9RgQM0xrmOmmsAmcx8lYL/elmS1UBXLsKQBwzl/ipIgap5vLDRRSr6RCqmtNoq i1E9/THbrkfzH0CfCTgQmklWQGGcyysSLOtmylVT30i6uXjaub2v3S/+gdWRGDTm PKsZVbkM/q/5oFY9hTLdedGCS/kF7bHWX+y5xCohr3NfJmCyNkx3dWuYdu8CqTDP N6EzoMD4GlS3CDP3V2TaWXqs+Jj/xThoGttk9KcmAvW6govp55dT7fLFuvmV3jM= =7zvt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21572.2990.194337.845...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
