Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******
Hi guys, Please stop replying. That is a troll, will be banned quickly, dont maintain it alive. Just ignore, listmaster and bts will do what is needed. Keep power for other more interesting things. Regards Le 04/04/2021 à 23:18, crazy.mo...@lavache.com a écrit : If you don't want these ego-maniacs to use your name in their vendettas you can resign from Debian. This is the choice. How many people will resign if Debian votes to attack Stallman? Please tell us before the vote finishes so we call can know this now. No matter the outcome of this vote. Having the vote at all suggests that people are expendable. Volunteers can be hung over the side of the ship while people have an email argument about what to do next. Why don't you understand how toxic this is? There are so many years of defamation in Debian now. Delete it all now. Delete the negative options from the vote now. Please stop or we stop you. From: Stephan Lachnit To: crazy.mo...@lavache.com Subject: Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *** Date: 04/04/2021 22:38:20 Europe/Paris Cc: 986...@bugs.debian.org; debian-de...@lists.debian.org > Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations? If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do your research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider. > Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody! You can't have it both ways. First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to resign isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly) elected. Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody? There is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker and more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas, I don't think that is something you would like. > If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full consequences. Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS (which as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face your alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power to do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again, I don't think you understand the Debian project at all. > Your jobs are the targets. Your families are targets. I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with your views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone here just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to harm them so badly? Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay friendly (btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions, and yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things that turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes, we can grow from it. > No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than you can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can happen from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would be just like a month ago. Regards, Stephan
Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *******
If you don't want these ego-maniacs to use your name in their vendettas you can resign from Debian. This is the choice. How many people will resign if Debian votes to attack Stallman? Please tell us before the vote finishes so we call can know this now. No matter the outcome of this vote. Having the vote at all suggests that people are expendable. Volunteers can be hung over the side of the ship while people have an email argument about what to do next. Why don't you understand how toxic this is? There are so many years of defamation in Debian now. Delete it all now. Delete the negative options from the vote now. Please stop or we stop you. From: Stephan Lachnit To: crazy.mo...@lavache.com Subject: Re: Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is *** Date: 04/04/2021 22:38:20 Europe/Paris Cc: 986...@bugs.debian.org; debian-de...@lists.debian.org > Why does the toxic woman want to destroy reputations? If you refer to Jonathan Carter, that isn't even the person that started the vote, nor an original author of the open letter. Do your research, tbh to me it seems like you are a complete outsider. > Destroy nobody - Or destroy everybody! You can't have it both ways. First of all, nobody wants to "destroy" RMS. Calling someone to resign isn't destroying them, especially if they were just (secretly) elected. Secondly, why are you so toxic and want to "destroy" everybody? There is really no point, all you do is make the FLOSS community weaker and more divided. And since you seem to care about RMS and his ideas, I don't think that is something you would like. > If Debian is a vehicle for defamation, every one of you faces full > consequences. Debian is a democracy. Assume one person votes in favor of RMS (which as you can see some people will do), why do you want them to face your alleged consequences? That doesn't make sense. They have no power to do the things you ask for. In fact, nobody in Debian has. Again, I don't think you understand the Debian project at all. > Your jobs are the targets. Your families are targets. I can understand that you are angry even if I don't agree with your views, but I don't think anyone here wants to harm RMS. Everyone here just wants the best for the FLOSS community. Why do you want to harm them so badly? Opinions on how what's the best for the community may differ, but that's fine. Discussions are healthy, as long as they stay friendly (btw your mails aren't). I have learned a lot from discussions, and yes sometimes people (me included) get unfriendly or say things that turn out to be false. But as long as we apologize for mistakes, we can grow from it. > No volunteer should have to suffer you toxic people Don't you think, just maybe, that we shouldn't suffer from your toxicity as well? Especially since we will suffer much more than you can ever suffer from this. I mean, what's the worst that can happen from your point of view? RMS resigns again? Then everything would be just like a month ago. Regards, Stephan
Bug#986382: DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is ****909
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-proj...@lists.debian.org,debian-vote@lists.debian.org,debian-de...@lists.debian.org We are contributors to Debian The contribution of every one of us makes the name Debian respectable We can't allow a crazy woman who slept with a past project leader to hijack the name of the project and use it to scar volunteers. This happened to many times. It stops now. Please stop! Delete all fascism and defamation about any volunteer that has been instigated from Debian in any form whatsoever. Delete it from the vote, web pages, search engines. Please stop! Delete all negative options from the RMS vote. We only want positive options or nothing. We will not tolerate any outcome that is negative for a volunteer If the mob does not respect our request, we are making a data dump of all the DebConf personal data. DPL Jonathan Carter's passport number is 909. Privacy for everybody or privacy for nobody
