Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I was thinking of setting up a FAQ.
.oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and
maybe people can help with software maintenance more easily ... )
Cheers.
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Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
On 14/04/09 at 10:48 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. .oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and maybe people can help with software maintenance more easily ... ) Also, something on my wishlist (and the wishlist of others) for years, has been a poll system, which could be used during heated discussions to get an idea of what the silent majority thinks. Unfortunately, apparently the secretaries don't have time to work on that (which I can understand), so it has to be done outside the Debian infrastructure. Having such a Debian package would be really useful for that. -- | Lucas Nussbaum | lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: lu...@nussbaum.fr GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:35:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
Also, something on my wishlist (and the wishlist of others) for years,
has been a poll system, which could be used during heated discussions
to get an idea of what the silent majority thinks.
Unfortunately, apparently the secretaries don't have time to work on
that (which I can understand), so it has to be done outside the Debian
infrastructure.
Having such a Debian package would be really useful for that.
Full ACK. FWIW, that was actually the main reason for me to propose
that.
An extra benefit, in which the secretary might be interested, is to
give more easily access to the software which is being run to
determine election outcomes to all voters.
Cheers.
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Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
Hi, The current devotee package is far too wedded to the Debian way of doing things to be useful as a package. It is far too inglexible, and things have ben h a r d c o d e d. I have a devotee-ng in a rewrite now, that is far more modular, and, critically, composable -- so the end user creates their vote script (essentially, equivalent to the dvt-cron script of today) by specifying what components they want to use (a spooler, to live in .forward, or not, in case they want to use a web front end, which mime exploder, which gpg checker, if any, whether or not to use ldap, notification modules, tally modules, display units -- so one may mix and match plugins. I think that is likely to be usable enough to actually package, as opposed to what I wrote under the gun during the 2002 DPL election (yes, the election started before devotee was actually written) So, I think any efforts to package the current devotee code are a bit of a waste of time, but I won't stop people from doing so. manoj -- Maryann's Law: You can always find what you're not looking for. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29:22PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. .oO( Why not a Debian package?, then you would gain BTS support, and maybe people can help with software maintenance more easily ... ) See Manoj's mail about the package. The version being used can be checked by any DD. It's on master in the /org/vote.debian.org/bin/ dir. I'm more talking about having a page on www.debian.org that has things like common errors in it. And something that better explains how our voting system works. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
Would it be possible to add a pointer to the frequently encountered problems to the devotee error reply? This would most likely reduce the burden on the secretary during the voting period and allow people to solve the problems at their end faster. -- * Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology (T.P) * * PGP public key available @ http://www.iki.fi/killer * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Devotee Improvements (Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009 Results)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:23:56PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Would it be possible to add a pointer to the frequently encountered problems to the devotee error reply? This would most likely reduce the burden on the secretary during the voting period and allow people to solve the problems at their end faster. I was thinking of setting up a FAQ. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
