Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- seconded. 1. For me, Debian is non-fun at the moment not because of the lack of great people but because of an excess of people that spoil my Debian experience. I am not quite ready to quit yet, but every day and every second on Robert's resolution help. I have to second that, too, unfortunately. Robert obviously has too much free time. Somebody please teach him that there're open RC bugs out there which need to be fixed. But probably he never looked into the bugs of the packages he maintains. Best regards, Bernd - -- Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer GPG Fingerprint: 06C8 C9A2 EAAD E37E 5B2C BE93 067A AD04 C93B FF79 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkHgmAACgkQBnqtBMk7/3nlsACdHZ3WkDQBWaKvVb4POktVWJsn sYAAoJg2FbPqYP9KdaO252dPPQvJvAiC =JS7k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 20:26 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. look like a bunch of clowns a bunch of clowns clowns -- Robert Millan signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:32:52AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 20:26 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. look like a bunch of clowns a bunch of clowns clowns -- Robert Millan For those who didn't get Josselin's witty remark, this happens because I dared to complain that my words were being missrepresented by Steve Langasek on IRC, pretending that I said something I never did. 21:22 vorlon oh yes, that's right, *sending chocolate* makes us look like a bunch of clowns 21:34 nyu vorlon: don't put words in my mouth, thanks 21:35 vorlon nyu: what should I put in your mouth? Let this serve as a warning for anyone who dares to complain that mr Langasek is defamating him. P.S.: I never thought we'd get so low. Sad thing, really. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:17:46PM +, Robert Millan wrote: 21:22 vorlon oh yes, that's right, *sending chocolate* makes us look like a bunch of clowns 21:34 nyu vorlon: don't put words in my mouth, thanks 21:35 vorlon nyu: what should I put in your mouth? Let this serve as a warning for anyone who dares to complain that mr Langasek is defamating him. P.S.: I never thought we'd get so low. Sad thing, really. Is your real first name Frank ? If you can't make the difference between a jest and defamation, I really can't help you. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp5z9YNtZz0M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time Seconded. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 pgpBrYgcuh9Zc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Le dimanche 26 octobre 2008 à 15:17 +0100, Robert Millan a écrit : For those who didn't get Josselin's witty remark, this happens because I dared to complain that my words were being missrepresented by Steve Langasek on IRC, pretending that I said something I never did. No, this happens because you said something stupid. I don’t follow the IRC channel in which this was said. 21:22 vorlon oh yes, that's right, *sending chocolate* makes us look like a bunch of clowns 21:34 nyu vorlon: don't put words in my mouth, thanks 21:35 vorlon nyu: what should I put in your mouth? I think he should put cookies in your mouth. But only if you fix a RC bug. Let this serve as a warning for anyone who dares to complain that mr Langasek is defamating him. Sorry, but I think if Steve wants to make fun of you, he doesn’t need my help. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- Seconded. - -- * Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology (T.P) * * PGP public key available @ http://www.iki.fi/killer * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAkkCvKgACgkQdPhr0GcNBZ2qUQCgkZIthPQ1ISm50+YsQSATWgQ0 PwEAn0fX0pK+0FToaS/0NZFDlgUCKLhD =HxB1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 02:46:47AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:40:14PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- I've made a point of telling people that I think Ben is about the only one who deserves any praise for what's been happening on the kernel front. I'll happily help to push beer/chocolate/$foo at him as a thank you for that, regardless of any vote here. I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time Seconded. As a matter of fact, if you want to send chocolate to Ben I second that too. I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time in that it adds nothing but ineffective micromanaging for situation that is in violation of the today's social contract while being ignorant of the how its proposed solution should be implemented (currently packages move between components by entering NEW on upload and then being accepted or rejected, the proposal does not specify whose responsibility it is to do the upload, I know of no attempt to upload linux-2.6 to non-free, so really with the same set of actions and the new set of rules, the situation would be 100% identical). This failure and the lack of effort to actually resolve the situation within the current framework make Robert's proposal indefensible. Furthermore, I intend to ask the DPL to revoke my delegation to the ftp team should Robert's proposal receive enough seconds to be voted on.[1] Fianally, I would also like to ask the Secretary to clarify that Robert's Option 1 does affect the Social Contract #1, in particular We will never make the system require the use of a non-free component. when it requires moving to non-free packages from Debian such as the Linux kernel that are (effectively) required for running Debian. Kind regards T. 1. For me, Debian is non-fun at the moment not because of the lack of great people but because of an excess of people that spoil my Debian experience. I am not quite ready to quit yet, but every day and every second on Robert's resolution help. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- Seconded. I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time in that it adds Doubly so. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 pgpm7UTBuLFv9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Julien BLACHE wrote: I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time in that it adds Doubly so. AOL. Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 18:40 +0200, Thomas Viehmann a écrit : --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- Seconded. This project needs more pastries. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:40:14PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- Seconded. -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `-people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:40:14PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Hi, I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice --- The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It instructs the project leader to authorize spending of Debian funds to send a box of chocolates to Ben. --- I've made a point of telling people that I think Ben is about the only one who deserves any praise for what's been happening on the kernel front. I'll happily help to push beer/chocolate/$foo at him as a thank you for that, regardless of any vote here. I belive that Robert's resolution is a waste of time Seconded. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't barbecue lettuce! -- Ellie Crane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
