Re: Question (Re: Call for votes for "GR: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader")

[Pierre Habouzit]

Le dim 8 octobre 2006 21:53, Jérôme Marant a écrit :
> Le dimanche 08 octobre 2006 20:23, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> > The above are just attempted summaries of the differences between
> > two position statements.  You really want to read the full
> > statements themselves and see if you agree more with one or the
> > other (or with neither).
>
> Well, it does summarize pretty well:
>
> 1/ says the Debian Project does not object to the experiment and it
> is not the result of a decision of the Debian Project
>
> 2/ says it doesn't endorse nor support any projects Mr Towns may lead
> or participate in outside Debian
>
> Pretty much the same. The only difference is that 1/ wishes success
> to Dunc Tank, which makes Debian look nice with it.

that's indeed why the amendment 2 was proposed. the second one is 
intended as beeing neutral.

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Re: Question (Re: Call for votes for "GR: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader")

[Jérôme Marant]

Le dimanche 08 octobre 2006 20:23, Russ Allbery a écrit :

> The above are just attempted summaries of the differences between two
> position statements.  You really want to read the full statements
> themselves and see if you agree more with one or the other (or with
> neither).

Well, it does summarize pretty well:

1/ says the Debian Project does not object to the experiment and it is not
the result of a decision of the Debian Project

2/ says it doesn't endorse nor support any projects Mr Towns may lead or
participate in outside Debian

Pretty much the same. The only difference is that 1/ wishes success
to Dunc Tank, which makes Debian look nice with it.

> In practice, I think either choice 1 or choice 2 is going to be
> effectively the same in terms of its effect on the project; the real
> choice is between one or the other means of saying "we support AJ as DPL"
> or not saying that (choice 3).
> 
> I think it would have been somewhat clearer if it were all on the same
> ballot as the recall, but I do understand the reasoning.

Agreed.

Thanks,

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Re: Question (Re: Call for votes for "GR: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader")

[Russ Allbery]

Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le dimanche 08 octobre 2006 01:53, Debian Project Secretary a écrit :

>> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> a65763d3-b1e2-4530-8ff8-aa5915274eb4
>> [   ] Choice 1: Re-affirm DPL, wish success to unofficial Dunc Tank
>> [   ] Choice 2: Re-affirm DPL, do not endorse nor support his other projects
>> [   ] Choice 3: Further discussion
>> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> Hi,

> I'm unsure about how I should vote this.

> Could someone please tell me how not supporting nor endorsing Dunc-Tank
> would be incompatible with wishing it success?

> I understand that Debian does not have to endorse it, but I don't think
> it means wishing it failure, does it?

The above are just attempted summaries of the differences between two
position statements.  You really want to read the full statements
themselves and see if you agree more with one or the other (or with
neither).

In practice, I think either choice 1 or choice 2 is going to be
effectively the same in terms of its effect on the project; the real
choice is between one or the other means of saying "we support AJ as DPL"
or not saying that (choice 3).

I think it would have been somewhat clearer if it were all on the same
ballot as the recall, but I do understand the reasoning.

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Question (Re: Call for votes for "GR: Re-affirm support to the Debian Project Leader")

[Jérôme Marant]

Le dimanche 08 octobre 2006 01:53, Debian Project Secretary a écrit :

> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> a65763d3-b1e2-4530-8ff8-aa5915274eb4
> [   ] Choice 1: Re-affirm DPL, wish success to unofficial Dunc Tank
> [   ] Choice 2: Re-affirm DPL, do not endorse nor support his other projects
> [   ] Choice 3: Further discussion
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hi,

I'm unsure about how I should vote this.

Could someone please tell me how not supporting nor endorsing Dunc-Tank would
be incompatible with wishing it success?

I understand that Debian does not have to endorse it, but I don't think it means
wishing it failure, does it?

Thanks.

PS: please CC me

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Jérôme Marant


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