Question for Charles Plessy (was: No answer for insulting and accusatory emails.)
Hi Charles, Charles Plessy schrieb: just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting. That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be elected? Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba9ed7e.8030...@schmehl.info
Re: Question for Charles Plessy (was: No answer for insulting and accusatory emails.)
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl a écrit : That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be elected? Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:58:47AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : OK, so I do have a few followup questions: (1) What do you consider to be insulting or accusatory? (2) As example: Will you, as DPL, consider You haven't answered in the past four weeks as accusatory? (3) How will we, as DDs, know if you consider something as insuluting or accusatory? (4) Do you believe ignoring conflicts to be a solution? Hi again, ignoring conflicts is the best way to have them explode at the worse moment. On the other hands, being insulted on a mailing list does not call for an answer. This is the best receipe for having flamewars. If I am elected DPL, I will not ignore requests. Neither will I filtrate my mailbox (but deleting spam by hand also leads to accidental loss of messages). I will read all my emails. I hope I will not disapoint you, but I will not give a lecture of what is an insult or what is not. I promise that I will not nitpick people's words to find excuses to not do my DPL work. Lastly, for the meaning of ‘accusatory’, perhaps I could have found a better word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in one message, somebody writes ‘you want this [bad thing]’ or ‘you did not do that [good thing]’, it can be better to refrain to answer in a discussion that goes nowhere. As a DPL, however, I would clarify if people spread false informations on our mailing lists. Cheers, -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100324153605.ga11...@kunpuu.plessy.org
Re: Question for Charles Plessy (was: No answer for insulting and accusatory emails.)
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Lastly, for the meaning of ‘accusatory’, perhaps I could have found a better word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in one message, somebody writes ‘you want this [bad thing]’ or ‘you did not do that [good thing]’, it can be better to refrain to answer in a discussion that goes nowhere. As a DPL, however, I would clarify if people spread false informations on our mailing lists. The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the world of journalism. Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from developers? Neil -- vorlon We need a fresher website - WordPress is the perfect solution, that way the website can get a new look every time a script kiddie comes up with a new design -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100324201217.gr28...@halon.org.uk
Re: Question for Charles Plessy (was: No answer for insulting and accusatory emails.)
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:12:17PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit : The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the world of journalism. Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from developers? Hi Neil, I think I remember discussions where people were disapointed about what journalists have put in the DPL's mouth. For written interviews, I seriously consider to post my answers first on -private for comments. For something completely unrelated to Debian, I have done a phone interview in the past. While the result was not too bad, the journalist was definitely in a strong position to lead the discussion in a way that produces quite predictable answers. If I am elected DPL, I will decline that kind of interviews. If after all these precautions, there is an article that still deforms what I said or wrote, then yes, depending on the situation I may ignore it according to the importance of the media, perhaps after consulting the DDs on debian-private. Internet is very big, and to try to correct things that are written there often has the effect to make them more visible. Have a nice day, -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100324233026.ga13...@kunpuu.plessy.org
