Re: Draft ballot for the GFDL vote

2006-02-25 Thread Arthur de Jong

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[   ] Choice 1: GFDL licensed works are unsuitable for main in all cases


I would personally like to see this without the in all cases as an 
author could add extra statements clarifying their intention or 
interpretation of the license that could make the work DFSG-free. This 
also seems to be what the proposal is about.



[   ] Choice 2: GFDL licensed works are free unless unmodifiable
sections present


Is this correct (I have trouble parsing this)? Maybe GFDL licend works 
withour unmidifiable sections are free.?


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Re: Draft ballot for the GFDL vote

2006-02-25 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 [   ] Choice 2: GFDL licensed works are free unless unmodifiable sections 
 present

All GFDL works have unmodifiable sections, including at least:

 * [4D, 4E] Copyright statements

 * [4A, 4I] Parts of the section entitled History

 * [4F] The permission notice, which must be in the form shown in the
Addendum below

 * [4H] A copy of the GFDL

 * [4J] Random URLs

So, unfortunately, that phrasing won't work.


(Oh, and just to be clear, I'm not saying that all of these are [or are
not] DFSG-freeness issues, just that they're unmodifiable sections)


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Re: Draft ballot for the GFDL vote

2006-02-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 Feb 2006, Arthur de Jong outgrape:


 [ ] Choice 1: GFDL licensed works are unsuitable for main in all
 cases

 I would personally like to see this without the in all cases as an
 author could add extra statements clarifying their intention or
 interpretation of the license that could make the work
 DFSG-free. This also seems to be what the proposal is about.

Since the wording is from the proposer of the GR, I would tend
 to go along with him knowing what the proposal is all about.  Also,
 the full text of the proposal is always authoritative; the ballot is
 simply there to identify the proposal well enough that the voters can
 link it 

 [   ] Choice 2: GFDL licensed works are free unless unmodifiable
 sections present

 Is this correct (I have trouble parsing this)? Maybe GFDL licend
 works withour unmidifiable sections are free.?

Well, it is correct, but I see no reason not to switch the
 sentence around, if it is clearer. Dato?
On 25 Feb 2006, Anthony DeRobertis uttered the following:

 Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 [ ] Choice 2: GFDL licensed works are free unless unmodifiable
 sections present

 All GFDL works have unmodifiable sections, including at least:
 [SNIP pedantic nitpicks]
 So, unfortunately, that phrasing won't work.
 (Oh, and just to be clear, I'm not saying that all of these are [or
 are not] DFSG-freeness issues, just that they're unmodifiable
 sections)

The single line on the ballot is not meant to be a full and
 complete description of the proposal. It is only meant to identify
 the proposal well enough that the voter can distinguish it from the
 other choices. In this case, the wording has been vetted by the
 proposer of the amendment, so I am sure that it is not deceptively
 incorrect.

manoj
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Re: Draft ballot for the GFDL vote

2006-02-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Well, obviously this is not about procedures to publish posts
 from the debian-private mailing list . 

==
The following ballot is for voting on a General Resolution to address
the Debian projects position on the GNU Free Documentation License.
The vote is being conducted in accordance with the policy delineated
==

manoj
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