Re: Draft ballot for the Project membership procedures vote

2008-12-03 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:21:16PM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
 [   ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or concensus.
 [   ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or concensus, 
 leading to a new proposal.

s/concensus/consensus/ ?


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Re: Draft ballot for the Project membership procedures vote

2008-12-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 03:01:36PM -0600, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:21:16PM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
  [   ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or 
  concensus.
  [   ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or concensus, 
  leading to a new proposal.
 
 s/concensus/consensus/ ?
 

Adjusted, thanks.

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Re: Draft ballot for the Project membership procedures vote

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:21:16PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Here's the draft ballot for the GR. Please note the timescale and reply
 ASAP.

Hi Neil

The vote page has three mutually exclusive texts, with headers named Choice
1, Choice 2 and Choice 3 that respectively correspond to Choice 2,
Choice 1 and Choice 3 in the ballot. I am affraid it is misleading. Shall I
commit a change to the webpage to reorder and / or renumber the choices?

http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_002

Also, you removed and all the contributors in Choice2 of the ballot (Choice 1
of the GR), which in my opinion is crucial. But since after the vote of the GR,
the wording of the choices has no role in iterpreting the GR, just go ahead if
you disagree.

Have a nice day,

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Re: Draft ballot for the Project membership procedures vote

2008-12-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 08:44:32AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:21:16PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  Hi all,
  
  Here's the draft ballot for the GR. Please note the timescale and reply
  ASAP.
 
 Hi Neil
 
 The vote page has three mutually exclusive texts, with headers named Choice
 1, Choice 2 and Choice 3 that respectively correspond to Choice 2,
 Choice 1 and Choice 3 in the ballot. I am affraid it is misleading. Shall 
 I
 commit a change to the webpage to reorder and / or renumber the choices?
 

I've removed the numbers which should appear shortly.

 Also, you removed and all the contributors in Choice2 of the ballot (Choice 
 1
 of the GR), which in my opinion is crucial. But since after the vote of the 
 GR,
 the wording of the choices has no role in iterpreting the GR, just go ahead if
 you disagree.
 

I don't agree I'm afraid.

Thanks,
Neil
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Re: Draft ballot for the Project membership procedures vote

2008-12-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/12/08 at 09:44 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:05:39AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  
   Also, you removed and all the contributors in Choice2 of the ballot 
   (Choice 1
   of the GR), which in my opinion is crucial. But since after the vote of 
   the GR,
   the wording of the choices has no role in iterpreting the GR, just go 
   ahead if
   you disagree.
   
  
  I don't agree I'm afraid.
 
 I regret that you did not feedback when I made propositions for the ballot and
 that you do not explain why you disagree. I think that your wording is
 detrimental to the choice that is the least embarassing for Jörg (or second
 least, after further discussion), but I accept your decision and will not
 discuss further unless invited to do so.

Bah, the wording of this choice is so convoluted in the GR that it's
impossible to summarize it in a few words in the ballot, so I'm fine
with what Neil came up with.

For example, I would have liked to see Thank the DAM, invite the DAM to
further discuss until vote or concensus, leading to a new proposal..
The fact that the proposal explicitely thanks the DAM was a reason for
which several DDs said that they wouldn't vote it above FD.
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