Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:56:02 +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that this is a draft, voting is not yet open. Any comments need to be in fast, though. Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. Since there is only one issue where voting is open, anyone who can't figure out what is being voted upon probably should not be voting. Especially since there was a link to the vote page. Does anyone themselves have had problems figuring out what this was all about, or is it merely hypotheticals? It was pretty clear, but Amend the Constitution (assets handling) would have been better. Just in case someone mixed this up with some other constitutional amendment. -- Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bush admitted to violating FISA and said he was proud of it. So why isn't he in prison yet?... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Apparently, the proposer and the secretary both felt that the form on the ballot was OK -- or do you have a better idea what the proposer of the GR wanted? [...] If only the proposer and secretary need to be happy with the ballot, post the draft to them only and sod the voters. I never said comments were not welcome. [...] It seemed pretty clear from the response. Thanks, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that this is a draft, voting is not yet open. Any comments need to be in fast, though. Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. Thanks, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006, MJ Ray wrote: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that this is a draft, voting is not yet open. Any comments need to be in fast, though. Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. It's a not so subtle ploy by the Secretary to force people to actually read the amendment instead of voting on a soundbite... Don Armstrong -- Junkies were all knitted together in a loose global macrame, the intercontinental freemasonry of narcotics. -- Bruce Sterling, _Holy Fire_ p257 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:56:02 +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. Since there is only one issue where voting is open, anyone who can't figure out what is being voted upon probably should not be voting. Especially since there was a link to the vote page. Previously, the proposal has been named on the ballot, such as: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/03/msg3.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/06/msg4.html and even when there's only one option: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/06/msg4.html Also, if there is no material from the proposal in the ballot, how do the wordings consequently decide the form of it? (constitution A.2.3) Finally, if comments are unwelcome, why bother posting a draft ballot with a message that suggests it's OK to comment? Thanks, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:28:15 +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Previously, the proposal has been named on the ballot, such as: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/03/msg3.html Very short proposal, so full text was on the ballot as well. Also, more than a up/down vote. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/06/msg4.html The full text does not seem to be present on this one -- but there were multiple options, so needed names to disambiguate. and even when there's only one option: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/06/msg4.html Also, if there is no material from the proposal in the ballot, how do the wordings consequently decide the form of it? (constitution A.2.3) However, the final decision on the form of ballot(s) is the Secretary's Apparently, the proposer and the secretary both felt that the form on the ballot was OK -- or do you have a better idea what the proposer of the GR wanted? Finally, if comments are unwelcome, why bother posting a draft ballot with a message that suggests it's OK to comment? I never said comments were not welcome. I also never said I'd blindly agree to whatever people commented. manoj -- You know, we've won awards for this crap. David Letterman Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:56:02 +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that this is a draft, voting is not yet open. Any comments need to be in fast, though. Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. Since there is only one issue where voting is open, anyone who can't figure out what is being voted upon probably should not be voting. Does anyone themselves have had problems figuring out what this was all about, or is it merely hypotheticals? manoj -- Last guys don't finish nice. Stanley Kelley, on the cult of victory at all costs Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Draft ballot for the assets constitutional GR
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:56:02 +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that this is a draft, voting is not yet open. Any comments need to be in fast, though. Could you name the amendment on the ballot, please? Amend the constitution is not descriptive enough. Since there is only one issue where voting is open, anyone who can't figure out what is being voted upon probably should not be voting. Especially since there was a link to the vote page. Does anyone themselves have had problems figuring out what this was all about, or is it merely hypotheticals? -- Last guys don't finish nice. Stanley Kelley, on the cult of victory at all costs Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
