Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 06:33:15PM -0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > Choice 1 -> Amendment A > Choice 2 -> Main Resolution > Choice 3 -> Amendment B > Until the webpages update, I can confirm that this reading of the options is correct. Neil -- * toresbe wonders what would happen if Ted Walther and Amaya were put in the same room toresbe: blood, sweat, tears and finally castration signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:35:49PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > In the future, it would be wonderful to have the "short summaries" > used in the ballot reported in the vote page, possibly as titles of > the various sections. > Added, should appear after the propogation delay. Neil -- automake: the emo of Debian software. "You just don't understand me." signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:09:33PM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote: > First and last call for vote since it is only one week... > So please, send a reminder in thursday/friday. > Will do. Neil -- < Erik_J> good day! i hear this might be a good place to get some technical advice when one is debian eliterate :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 06:33:15PM -0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > This is very unfortunate, because it's not at all clear. Too > confusing, unless you've followed each and every mail regarding this > vote. > > Neil, please, do include the options' titles in the webpage, so that > it's really clear which is which. Agreed. I am voting FD, unless this is clarified. -- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho, Jyväskylä, Finland http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/antti-juhani/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
Neil McGovern wrote: > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 5efca670-0e7b-480e-9899-ecce3446e087 > [ 1 ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or consensus. > [ ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or consensus, > leading to a new proposal. > [ ] Choice 3: Ask the DAMs to implement the changes. > [ 2 ] Choice 4: Further discussion > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- ·''`.There's no arguing with Nature. : :' :Promises comfort fools. `. `'All work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07-12-2008 18:33, Margarita Manterola wrote: > On 12/7/08, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> > 5efca670-0e7b-480e-9899-ecce3446e087 >> > [ ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or >> consensus. >> > [ ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or >> consensus, leading to a new proposal. >> > [ ] Choice 3: Ask the DAMs to implement the changes. >> > [ ] Choice 4: Further discussion >> > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> >> I confess that the mapping between the ballot options and what's >> published on the above URL is not crystal clear. I presume the order >> does matter and that hence we have: >> >> - Choice 1 -> main resolution >> - Choice 2 -> amendment A >> - Choice 3 -> amendment B >> >> Can please the secretary or an assistant confirm that this is the case? > > It doesn't look like that. As far as my reading goes, it's: > > Choice 1 -> Amendment A > Choice 2 -> Main Resolution > Choice 3 -> Amendment B > > This is very unfortunate, because it's not at all clear. Too > confusing, unless you've followed each and every mail regarding this > vote. > > Neil, please, do include the options' titles in the webpage, so that > it's really clear which is which. As I understand it, it goes like this: Choice 1 -> Main Proposal (Charles Plessy) + Lucas Nussbaum's Amendment A Choice 2 -> Peter Palfrader's Amendment Choice 3 -> Lucas Nussbaum's Amendment B Peter started proposing an amendment to Charles proposal, but it become an alternative because they agreed on have both options, and Lucas added the directly opposite option so people instead of vote "Further Discussion" can explicitly vote: "Go ahead and do it". One way or the other, and if I'm not totally wrong, the main proposal was "amended", the final result of texts and short lines should reflect the consensus on changing a proposal or adding an alternative. It seems that the "mapping" between the proposal and amendments is not direct, it requires combining the proposal and the amendments. :) Hope this helps. Kind regards - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) "Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk8URsACgkQCjAO0JDlykbxggCguBto/Ml27iKfqWf2xKqG7cjc q9MAnAxmtfSNd2JWVrfrllrBfEhqsY5W =RNvj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On 12/7/08, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 5efca670-0e7b-480e-9899-ecce3446e087 > > [ ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or > consensus. > > [ ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or consensus, > leading to a new proposal. > > [ ] Choice 3: Ask the DAMs to implement the changes. > > [ ] Choice 4: Further discussion > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > I confess that the mapping between the ballot options and what's > published on the above URL is not crystal clear. I presume the order > does matter and that hence we have: > > - Choice 1 -> main resolution > - Choice 2 -> amendment A > - Choice 3 -> amendment B > > Can please the secretary or an assistant confirm that this is the case? It doesn't look like that. As far as my reading goes, it's: Choice 1 -> Amendment A Choice 2 -> Main Resolution Choice 3 -> Amendment B This is very unfortunate, because it's not at all clear. Too confusing, unless you've followed each and every mail regarding this vote. Neil, please, do include the options' titles in the webpage, so that it's really clear which is which. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 06:10:54PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > The details of the general resolution can be found at: > http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_002 > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 5efca670-0e7b-480e-9899-ecce3446e087 > [ ] Choice 1: Ask the DAMs to postpone the changes until vote or consensus. > [ ] Choice 2: Invite the DAM to further discuss until vote or consensus, > leading to a new proposal. > [ ] Choice 3: Ask the DAMs to implement the changes. > [ ] Choice 4: Further discussion > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I confess that the mapping between the ballot options and what's published on the above URL is not crystal clear. I presume the order does matter and that hence we have: - Choice 1 -> main resolution - Choice 2 -> amendment A - Choice 3 -> amendment B Can please the secretary or an assistant confirm that this is the case? In the future, it would be wonderful to have the "short summaries" used in the ballot reported in the vote page, possibly as titles of the various sections. Thanks for all the (possibly not exciting) work on this! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 [EMAIL PROTECTED],pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| ..: | Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: First call for votes: GR: Project membership procedures
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 06:10:54PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > Apologies for the delay in the start of this vote, it's the first time > that devotee has been used by a different user, and some last minute > bugs appeared. > > So, without further ado: > This is the first call for votes for vote_002: General Resolution: > Project membership procedures. Note that voting isn't quite open yet. > > Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Monday 8th Dec 2008 > Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Sunday,14th Dec 2008 > > Please note the shortened time for voting as per > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > First and last call for vote since it is only one week... So please, send a reminder in thursday/friday. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
