Bug#353293: ITP: littlewizard -- development environment for children

2006-02-17 Thread Ben Armstrong
Kari,

I'm interested in littlewizard, as it may be suitable to include in
Debian Jr.'s junior-programming metapackage.  If you need any help,
please drop me a note.

Thanks,
Ben



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Bug#339896: Status of your freedroid-rpg ITP

2006-04-08 Thread Ben Armstrong
What's the status of this?  My son picked up an old LJ in which he read
about this game.  He's interested in trying it.  Do you have any
packages to test?

Ben



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Bug#236721: Squeak in Debian main

2006-06-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
Lex,

I had hoped, as Petter suggested in the Squeak RFP #236721, that Squeak
could now go into Debian main because the font issues have been
resolved, as Debian Jr. would like to include Squeak in the
junior-programming metapackage.  However, it seems Roland's points here
are not yet addressed in the RFP:

(3) Clause 6 states: "You may not use or otherwise export or reexport
the Apple Software except as authorized by United States law and the
laws of the jurisdiction in which the Apple Software was obtained. In
particular, but without limitation, the Apple Software may not be
exported or reexported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) any
U.S. embargoed country [...]"

Which seems to violate DFSG.5 ("No Discrimination Against Persons or
Groups") since it explicitly excludes people in countries like Cuba (?)
from receiving copies of this package. I don't think we can maintain a
list of countries which the USA enforce an embargo on at a time.

(4) The distributed files squeak.changes and squeak.image, both around
10MB, are shipped in binary form. I wonder if there should be source
code to create them initially. (See DFSG.2, "Source Code")


Has any progress been made with these last remaining issues?  I notice
that we list this software as unpackageable due to license issues, yet
the RFP remains on the books, which leaves the situation ambiguous.

http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package

Ben


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Bug#236721: Squeak in Debian main

2006-06-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
This looks like a step in the right direction:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-May/104466.html

Although it has been noted in this thread that historically Debian has
removed APSL2 packages, and that therefore BSD/MIT would be better. 
Also, it's one thing to get approval from the Squeak board, and quite
another to actually do the work of putting together a relicensed
distribution.  So it seems all we can do now is wait and see.

Now, the question is, in light of this recent development, should Squeak
be removed from the "cannot be packaged" list, or would that be premature?

Also, Lex, in light of the fact that you have packages already (albeit
for the non-DFSG version) and Squeak seems to be moving towards a
solution, is it time to change the RFP to an ITP?

Regards,
Ben


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Bug#325448: Are you aware of mupen64plus?

2008-07-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
Ryan, we've been using your packages for a while now, but realize
upstream has been dead for some years.  Today my son pointed
out that there is this new project, reviving development again:

http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/

Thought you might be interested in checking it out.  The LICENSE
file says this is GPL'd, though I haven't done a thorough review
of it yet.

Ben



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Bug#492029: ITP: atl1e -- Atheros(R) L1e ethernet driver

2008-07-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: atl1e
  Version : 1.0.0.7r5
  Upstream Author : xiong huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://marc.info/?t=12160065951&r=1&w=2
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Linux Base Driver for the Atheros(R) L1e Fast Ethernet 
Adapter

 The Atheros(R) L1e Fast Ethernet Adapter is present in a few ultraportable
 Asus laptop systems, such as the Asus Eee PC models 901, 1000 and 1000H.

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  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash



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Bug#498180: ITP: eee-applet -- A systray applet for Eee Pc

2008-09-07 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:07:39 +0200
Julien Lavergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   * Start or stop Wifi

I'm concerned about how this is implemented.  Does it play well with
eeepc-acpi-scripts?

>   * Control fan speed

I'd be interested to see that supported in a way that doesn't require
the unsupported eee.ko module.  I understand some patches
have been accepted to support fan control in eeepc_laptop.ko through
the sysfs interface, but there is no support for it in userspace yet,
and that further patches may be needed before it is.

>   * Overclock the processor

Not so much interested in this.  Since eee.ko is not in Debian (nor do
I see it ever entering Debian unless it is accepted upstream in
the kernel,) does the applet leave out that option if you don't have
eee.ko loaded?

Ben



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Bug#452014: ITP: atl2-source -- Source for the Attansic L2 ethernet driver

2007-11-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: atl2-source
  Version : 1.0.40.2
  Upstream Author : xiong huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Source for the Attansic L2 ethernet driver

This is the driver for the Attansic/Atheros L2 which is present in
systems such as the Asus Eee PC.



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Bug#565770: ITP: libterm-ansicolor-ruby -- Colors strings using ANSI escape sequences

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: libterm-ansicolor-ruby
  Version : 1.0.4
  Upstream Author : Florian Frank  
* URL : http://flori.github.com/term-ansicolor/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : Colors strings using ANSI escape sequences

Small Ruby library that colors strings using ANSI escape sequences.
It's possible to use constants or unary functions.  Block-forms
also autoreset at the block's end.  It's also possible to use this
module as a mixin for classes of objects that respond to :to_str,
e.g. String. 



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Bug#565769: RFP: libcucumber-ruby -- execute plain-text functional descriptions as automated tests

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libcucumber-ruby
  Version : 0.6.1
  Upstream Author : Aslak Hellesøy 
* URL : http://cukes.info/
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : execute plain-text functional descriptions as automated tests

While Cucumber can be thought of as a testing tool, the intent of
the tool is to support BDD. This means that the tests (plain text
feature descriptions with scenarios) are typically written before
anything else and verified by business analysts, domain experts, etc. 
non technical stakeholders. The production code is then written
outside-in, to make the stories pass.




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Bug#586413: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-19 Thread Ben Armstrong

On 19/06/10 11:55 AM, Ola Lundqvist wrote:

Bug#586413: RFA: tightvnc -- virtual network computing server software
Bug#586414: RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software
   


Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the 
survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian.  If a team can be 
put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I can.


What about eventual replacement by TigerVNC (http://tigervnc.org/), 
since upstream for that fork is actually active?


Ben




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Bug#594482: ITP: libsyntax-ruby -- A simple Ruby syntax highlighting library

2010-08-26 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: libsyntax-ruby
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Jamis Buck 
* URL : http://syntax.rubyforge.org/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A simple Ruby syntax highlighting library

This is a simple syntax highlighting library for Ruby. It is a naive syntax
analysis tool, meaning that it does not "understand" the syntaxes of the
languages it processes, but merely does some semi-intelligent pattern matching.

There are primarily two uses for the Syntax library:

# Convert text from a supported syntax to a supported highlight format (like 
HTML).
# Tokenize text in a supported syntax and process the tokens directly.

While there already exist other Ruby syntax highlighting libraries in Debian,
this one is a dependency of Cucumber, which I RFP'd (#565769) a while ago and
will shortly be converted to an ITP, if not by me then by a colleague.



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Bug#129699: ITP: race -- A 3D arcade overhead car game.

2002-01-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 02:46:38PM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 02:05:48PM +0100, Tille, Andreas wrote:
> > I personally do not care about music and I have to admit that I mostly
> > switch it off (by software or by just removing the power connector of
> > the speakers ;-).  But it was just an idea for those who might like it ...
> > It wouldn't be a real problem for me if there wouldn't be any sound.
> 
> I'll ask the band that wrote the music about it.
> 
> > Perhaps we build a further package junior-race?
> > 
> > > (After hearing the soundtrack I think it wouldn't be
> > > suitable for Debian-Jr anyway.)
> > Well than it would go this way:
> > 
> >   junior-race
> > 
> >   Depends: trophy, race
> >   Suggests: tuxracer  ## only suggets, because it needs 3D support
> >   Conflicts: race-sound   ## if there would really be a race-sound

Not having heard the soundtrack, what is objectionable about it?  It would
be nice if upstream could provide an alternative soundtrack that is
appropriate for children.

Also, Conflicts: race-sound is not acceptable from my point-of-view.  This
would be fine for a child-only system, but we assume that some systems are
used both by young children and older siblings or parents.  The soundtrack
may be perfectly acceptable to the older ones, so Conflicts is wrong.
Instead, we should look at solutions which make turning off a particular
feature that is inappropriate for children the default for child users.

This is getting to be a rather regular issue (that is, what to do
about features of a program that are deemed inappropriate for children)
so here are my thoughts (a sort of draft Debian Jr. policy, I guess).

The classic example is xpenguins.  From the man page:

   Some notes regarding the various activities.  If you design a new
   theme, feel free to make the splatted, squashed, zapped and exit
   animations as gory and bloody as you like, but please keep the
   explosion activity nice and tame; that way those of a nervous
   disposition can employ the --no-blood option which replaces all
   these violent deaths with a tasteful explosion that wouldn't offend
   your grandmother.

So we should be encouraging upstream to do something like this.  If upstream
decides to make such an option the default, great.  If they don't, then
Debian Jr. may provide an alternate version that makes it the default and
conflicts with the non-junior version.  Older users who wish to use the
"inappropriate for children" version can simply start the application with
the switch to enable the disabled feature.  If upstream does not wish to add
such a switch, the DD may wish to patch it.  If neither of these solutions
are implemented, Debian Jr. would simply drop the package.  (Note: this
isn't such a bad solution, and is often the easiest.  If a parent's
judgement differs from Debian Jr's and they wish to install the package and
use it with their children in the state it is in, they are certainly free
to do so.)

The "hard line" on this would be to rip out the feature from the code
altogether.  If there is sufficient interest in providing packages that
do this, it may be that upstream also supports a build-time option to
disable it.  But I feel that the approach I outlined above is the best
compromise for the general case.  If there is sufficient interest in
providing an entirely "foolproof kid safe" version of a given package,
then the DD may elect to provide a third conflicting alternative binary
package built without the inappropriate feature.  The default Debian Jr.
offering, however, will provide the "option" version.

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Bug#136515: RFA: robodoc

2002-03-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-03-02
Severity: normal

This package is in good health, with no bugs filed against it (or
maybe nobody uses it :)  I packaged it so I could use it myself,
but have since found I am no longer using it and have no plans in
the immediate future to do so.  Nor have I been keeping up with
upstream releases.

There are both a new stable and new beta release at:

http://download.sourceforge.net/robodoc/

If nobody adopts this right away, I will look at packaging one
of the new releases (but at a very low priority on my list).
Otherwise, they would be a good place for you to start if you
want this package.

Basically, if you use robodoc and care about it, or think you
might like to use it and care for it, you're probably a better
choice of maintainer for this than I am.

Ben Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Bug#112118: Anything holding this up? Would be nice for Debian Jr.

2002-03-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
Is anything holding this ITP up?  The license looks DFSG-free.  Is there
some other reason the ITP is now several months old with nothing showing for
it?

This would make an attractive addition to junior-math in Debian Jr.  In
particular, if python-visual (vpython) were packaged, then PyGeo, which
depends on vpython, could be packaged as well:

http://home.netcom.com/~ajs/

This comment from the PyGeo home page caught my attention:

PyGeo was created for, and is therefore particularly suitable
for, the visualization of concepts of the root geometry -
Projective Geometry.

Yet it is suitable for exploring the most basic concepts of
Euclidean geometry at an introductory level, including by
elementary schools students and their teachers.
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Bug#141099: ITP: xpilot-ng -- XPilot game "next generation"

2002-04-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-03
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: xpilot-ng
  Version : 4.3.0X
  Upstream Author : Uoti Urpala 
* URL : http://xpilot.sf.net/
* License : GPL
  Description : XPilot game "next generation"

I am the maintainer for XPilot, and have been following this fork from the 
official
XPilot release for some time.  The polygon map format that it implements is a
radical departure from the official version which is why these changes aren't
presently integrated back into the official one.  That is to say, the map format
that the xpilot-ng server uses is fundamentally incompatible with official 
xpilot
clients.  That being said, the xpilot-ng client will work with both new and old
map formats.

My intent is to package the CVS version of xpilot-ng instead of the latest 
tarball,
as it is rather out of date.  I will periodically rebuild and upload new CVS 
versions
until such time as this project has established a regular release cycle of
distribution tarballs.

My packaging of 'xpilot-ng' will be done in such a way that integrates well with
the official 'xpilot' package:
  - sharing data files where appropriate
  - providing alternatives where appropriate
  - supporting multiple instances of the server on the same system without 
conflicts
so that a games server can serve users both with official and "next 
generation"
clients

Changes will be made to the official 'xpilot' package to accomodate for 
'xpilot-ng'
as needed.

Hm, what else ... umm ... you'll notice that there is a java map editor which
depends on a non-free implementation of java.  I won't be including that.  Uoti
Urpala has written a map editor in python, so I will include that instead.
There is also a C++ map editor, but that hasn't been worked on for many months.
Hopefully once we get more users for this version, that will help spur along
development of one or both of these editors.

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Bug#145555: ITP: subproject-howto -- A HOWTO for starting a Debian subproject

2002-05-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-02
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: subproject-howto
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : synrg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://ftp.debian.org/
* License : TBA (FDL is under consideration)
  Description : A HOWTO for starting a Debian subproject

There is an unreleased early draft of this native Debian package (html
version only) at:

http://people.debian.org/~synrg/subproject-howto.html

It is obviously not finished yet, but it will be fleshed out and
version 1.0 will be uploaded before the end of this month.

I have deliberately chosen the shorter "subproject-howto" name rather
than "debian-subproject-howto" as the latter is a bit unwieldly.
Besides, "subproject of what project?" is implicit (cf. harden and
harden-* packages where "harden what distribution?" is implicitly
Debian).

While my first draft was placed under the GPL, as this document
is patterned after junior-doc/quickguide which is currently
GPL'd, it will certainly not remain this way.  I am considering
the GNU FDL license in spite of all of the recent controversy.
It seems to suit my purposes best.

The document is written in debiandoc format.
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Bug#148080: ITP: apache2 -- Apache version 2.0.36

2002-05-24 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:06:13AM +0200, Eduardo Garcia wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Version: N/A; reported 2002-05-25
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name: apache2
>   Version : 2.0.36
>   Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.apache.org/
> * License : (Apache Software License)
>   Description : Apache version 2.0.36

Are you aware of #103471?

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Bug#150460: ITP: tuxpaint -- A paint program for children with simple interface

2002-06-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-06-19
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: tuxpaint
  Version : 2002.06.17a
  Upstream Author : Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/
* License : GPL
  Description : A paint program for children with simple interface


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Bug#150460: ITP: tuxpaint -- A paint program for children with simple interface

2002-06-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
???

by whom?

no, don't answer that.  i'm checking now.

only mildly annoying, as i was in direct contact with bill about packaging
this.

Ben

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:43:39PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:56:18PM -0300, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
> > * Package name: tuxpaint
> >   Version : 2002.06.17a
> >   Upstream Author : Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tuxpaint/
> > * License : GPL
> >   Description : A paint program for children with simple interface
> 
>   This was added to the archive yesterday... (without, so far as I can
> tell, a formal ITP)
> 
>   Daniel
> 
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Bug#150460: ITP: tuxpaint -- A paint program for children with simple interface

2002-06-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:08:51PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> Eh, I just mentioned on the SDL list I was going to package this after the
> thing had some sort of save facility, but don't let that stop you from
> packaging it sooner.  It's a cool program for all of us who have
> absolutely no art talent.  ;)

Sure it can save ...

xwd -name 'Tux Paint' | xwdtopnm | pnmcut 96 0 448 376 | pnmtopng >image.png

Well, just make sure the window isn't occluded by another when you do this. :)

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Bug#150761: ITP: moin -- Python clone of WikiWiki

2002-06-24 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 09:01:44AM +0200, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote:
> Doesen't the upstream software call `MoinMoin'?
> If so, you'd call the package moinmoin.

Hm.  From the ITP:

http://purl.net/wiki/moin/

No reduplication of "moin" in that URL.  Also, at sf.net their project page
is sf.net/projects/moin and home page is moin.sf.net, and the files offered
for download there are called "moin-x.y.z".  It seems that in spite of the
project officially being called MoinMoin (mimicking WikiWiki, and *not* an
attempt to avoid namespace collision with your hypothetical "Moin" package)
there are several precedents set by the project itself for shortening that
to just "moin" in path and filenames.  I don't see why the Debian package
name should not follow this convention (after all, officially, the package
name would be MoinMoin, not moinmoin).

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Bug#151027: ITP: washerdryer -- wmaker dock applet for timing your wash

2002-06-26 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:12:02AM +0100, Malcolm Parsons wrote:
> Ryan M. Golbeck wrote:
> 
> >  Description : wmaker dock applet for timing your wash
> 
> What does this do that wmtimer doesn't?

It has a distinictive appearance.
It includes two timers in one dockapp.

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Bug#156852: ITP: ttf-dustismo -- general purpose gpl'ed truetype sans serif font

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:35:01PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
> Ben suggested that I make
> a package for each foundry, and then a virtual package that includes
> all of them. If Dustin agrees to gpl the rest of his fonts, I'll just
> make a ttf-cheapskate package.

Meta package.  A virtual package is something quite different.  It is not a
package itself, but rather a package name, named in the "Provides:" control
field, thus emacs21 and emacs20 both have "Provides" of the virutal package
"emacsen".  A meta package, on the other hand, is a real package that has
nothing but control information in it, usually "Depends:" so when you
install the meta package it causes a group of other packages to be
installed.

If I gave the impression that the grouping should be by foundry, that is not
what I meant.  I think I mentioned that the foundry may be present in the
name of each actual font package, but that is all.  I imagined a good
grouping would be by function, i.e. "fonts suitable for foo".  The grouping
I suggested was ttf-latin for a nice collection of fonts supporting latin
characters.

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Bug#158820: ITP: lpairs -- The classical memory card game

2002-08-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:32:03PM -0400, Nick Hurley wrote:
> * Package name: lpairs
>   Version : 1.0
>   Upstream Author : Michael Speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://lgames.sourceforge.net/
> * License : GPL
>   Description : The classical memory card game
> 
> LPairs is like the old childhood board game 'Memory'. This means that
> you have to find pairs of identical cards that will then be
> removed. Your time and tries needed are counted but there is no high
> score file or limit to this. This game is part of the LinuxGames suite
> available from http://lgames.sourceforge.net/ and, like all LGames
> programs, provides a menu to configure sound, graphics, and gameplay.

If you need testers, look me up.  I would like to see lpairs in Debian Jr.
Thanks.

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Bug#224081: Tuxpaint needs a Tamil font

2003-12-26 Thread Ben Armstrong
The tuxpaint package needs one of these Tamil fonts (in particular,
TSCu_Comic) for the newly committed to tuxpaint CVS Tamil support.  I would
be very interested to test ttf-tamil-fonts (or ttf-indic -- whichever is
eventually going to go into sid and includes the font I need) so I can
prepare to modify my package to make use of it.

Thanks,
Ben Armstrong, Debian tuxpaint maintainer



Bug#122242: ITP: xletters -- Type falling words before they land

2001-12-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

A typing practice game for X similar to typespeed and tuxtype.

The license is GPL.

Download it here:

http://www.seul.org/edu/packages/xletters

What distinguishes it from typespeed is that it runs under X, whereas
typespeed is console-based.  What distinguishes it from the tuxtype
is it is considerably more lightweight (i.e. pure X, non-SDL) so it
works better on very low end platforms on which SDL sucks.

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Bug#125904: ITP: fungetty, a fun new getty for Linux framebuffers

2001-12-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 02:36:52AM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> If so, then maybe you should have a look at fungetty, a
> replacement for the standard Linux getty that can display
> full-color graphics above the login prompt.  I hacked this up
> over the last week or so, and it seems to work pretty well.  It
> can display many kinds of PNG files above the login prompt.
> There are some bugs and limitations, but nothing unreasonable.

How does this differ from fbgetty?

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Bug#340631: ITP: culmus-fancy -- Type1 Fancy Hebrew Fonts for X11

2005-11-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 21:38 -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> [Lior Kaplan]
> > * Package name: culmus-fancy
> >   Description : Type1 Fancy Hebrew Fonts for X11
> 
> I understand that the 'culmus' package already exists, and other
> packages like 'lmodern' don't follow any particular name convention
> either, but could you consider naming this thing t1-culmus-fancy or
> something?  We don't really have a package name convention for fonts,
> but xfonts-*, t1-* and ttf-* are the closest thing we have.

Besides which, doesn't 'culmus' already contain Ktav Yad?

Ben



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Bug#167189: ITP: mbrola -- Mbrola is a "free", multilingual (25 languages at the moment) speech synthesis, it is not open source but has a really nice quality and is very important for brlspeak (debian for visual deficient) so we can have a software speech synthesis mode

2002-10-31 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:27:55AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Version: N/A; reported 2002-10-31
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name: mbrola
>   Version : 3.01h
>   Upstream Author : Dr Thierry Dutoit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola.html
> * License : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola/mbrlicen.html

OK, just checked this out.

>   Description : Mbrola is a "free", multilingual (25 languages at the
> moment) speech synthesis, it is not open source but has a really nice
> quality and is very important for brlspeak (debian for visual deficient)
> so we can have a software speech synthesis mode

Just to save others time checking out the license, mbrola is not DFSG free
because:

"This Program may not be sold or incorporated into any product which is
sold without prior permission from the Author."

"If you wish to incorporate the Program into other free programs whose
distribution conditions are different, write to the Author to ask for
permission."

"Permission is granted to use this Program for non-commercial,
non-military purposes ..."

Also, I don't see provision for making changes to the code in the license.
It is important to clear this up before packaging this for non-free because
we'll need to make changes to the distributed code to package it, make bug
fixes, etc.

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Bug#172645: ITP: tuxpaint-fonts-korean -- Meta package to install Korean fonts for Tux Paint

2002-12-11 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-12-11
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: tuxpaint-fonts-korean
  Version : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://packages.debian.org/
* License : GPL
  Description : Meta package to install Korean fonts for Tux Paint

This native Debian package will merely depend on the appropriate
package(s) to provide Korean fonts for tuxpaint, symlinking to the fonts
contained in those packages so that Tuxpaint can find the desired font. 
Currently, upstream uses a font from ttf-baekmuk, so this will be the
sole dependency in tuxpaint-fonts-korean 1.0.

This package will provide tuxpaint-fonts-nonlatin, and serves as the 
first of its kind.  It is expected that similar tuxpaint-fonts-*
packages will follow as Tux Paint is developed to support more 
languages.

My tuxpaint-data package will be modified to suggest tuxpaint-fonts-nonlatin.




Bug#181508: RFA: camE -- Rewrite of the xawtv webcam app using imlib2

2003-02-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
I'll take camE off your hands.  I have already prepared packages here:

http://people.debian.org/~synrg/came/

Just give me the word and I'll upload.

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Bug#185717: RFP: Dustismo -- TrueType-font under GPL

2003-03-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 05:19, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: normal
> 
> Some guy has released beautiful and personal font called Dustismo. It is
> in True Typre-format and licenced under GNU GPL:
> 
> http://www.cheapskatefonts.com/
> 
> I propose this name for package: ttf-dustismo

Already an ITP for this:
#156852: ITP: ttf-dustismo -- general purpose gpl'ed truetype sans
   serif font
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Bug#190971: ITP: libsdl-sound1.2 -- Decodes several sound file formats including wav and mp3

2003-04-27 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-27
Severity: wishlist


* Package name: libsdl-sound1.2
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Ryan Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://icculus.org/SDL_sound/
* License : GPL
  Description : Decodes several sound file formats including wav and mp3

 This library is meant to make the programmer's sound playback tasks
 simpler. The programmer gives SDL_sound a filename, or feeds it data
 directly from one of many sources, and then reads the decoded waveform
 data back at her leisure.
 
 If resource constraints are a concern, SDL_sound can process sound
 data in programmer-specified blocks. Alternately, SDL_sound can 
 decode a whole sound file and hand back a single pointer to the whole
 waveform. SDL_sound can also handle sample rate, audio format, and
 channel conversion on-the-fly and behind-the-scenes, if the programmer
 desires.
 
 I am packaging this out of necessity, since I am adopting gltron, and
 since version 0.62, gltron depends on SDL_sound.

Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Bug#275092: RFA: xpilot -- Multi-player tactical game for X

2004-10-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I request an adopter for the xpilot package.  I have put a fair amount
of care into this package over the years, but no longer play the game,
so it really deserves to be looked after by an active player of the
game, or at least someone with an interest in XPilot development.
  
I had always intended to package the de facto successor, so anyone 
interested in adopting this package should also look at this ITP (which 
I will shortly retitle to RFP):

#141099: ITP: xpilot-ng -- XPilot game "next generation"

I hope the new maintainer will either take on both packages, or at least
do xpilot-ng.

Development of the original xpilot.org version continues in a different 
direction, but since it seems to have stalled out, it appears that 
xpilot-ng is the XPilot of the future.  So if NG goes into Debian,
the original package could be removed, and therefore would only need 
occasional care in Debian "stable" until it is superceded by NG.


The package description is:
 XPilot is a multi-player tactical manoeuvring game for X.  Each
 player controls their own fighter equipped with a variety of weapons
 and power-ups.  Players compete as teams or as individuals;  the
 object of the game is to score points by blasting the opposition,
 stealing their treasure or by racing round a circuit.
 WARNING: This game is very addictive.
 .
 This package has been split into xpilot-client-common,
 xpilot-client-nosound, xpilot-client-nas, xpilot-client-rplay
 and xpilot-server.  There is an  additional package (xpilot-extra)
 containing various free maps and sounds as well as a useful utility
 program to interrogate the metaserver.

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Bug#141099: Waiting for development to settle down

2004-04-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
I have talked over the situation with both the original xpilot developers 
and the xpilot-ng fork, and we'd like to put together a hybrid that 
incorporates both of their work rather than split into two sets of packages.  
But we'll need some more time to work out the details.  Look for it after 
sarge releases.

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Bug#68243: So, now what?

2004-07-18 Thread Ben Armstrong
Samuel,

OK, now that it is more than 10 days since you stated you intended to
take over the ITP of linphone, what's the status of the linphone upload?

Thanks,
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Bug#664784: ITP: sandbox -- A helper utility to run programs in a sandboxed environment

2012-03-21 Thread Ben Armstrong

On 03/20/2012 05:11 PM, Ivan Krylov wrote:

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ivan Krylov

* Package name: sandbox


I worry about how generic this name is. I know of at least 
'sandboxgamemaker' package (Platinum Arts Sandbox) which was renamed to 
avoid conflicts. Please also note 'policycoreutils' contains 
/usr/bin/sandbox. Perhaps this package (and any program of the same name 
it contains) should be too? Though, I can't think of a suitable suffix 
off the top of my head -- reviewing the package is hard for me due to my 
next complaint ...



* URL : http://gentoo.org/


I wanted to check this package upstream, not search all day through the 
gentoo site for it. Help me out, please?


Thanks,
Ben



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Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in
> Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then
> it can easily be removed again (or left in Unstable).

Wrong. Every additional package costs the whole Debian project in
numerous ways. That's why we have these discussions up front on all
ITPs, so objections can be voiced.

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Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need?
> A: How about zero?
> 
> Not exactly helpful.

When developers are passionately opposed to a particular technology (and
not without reason here, I think,) they can be a bit blunt in expressing
it. The list of these goes on and on ... and while I certainly would be
more polite myself about expressing reservations about adding any more,
I'm not going to fault others for expressing their dissent. The way you
expressed your support seemed to me to gloss over the real cost of
adding a new package to the archive without any coherent argument as to
why this particular one was going to be no trouble at all (and/or worth
the trouble because it's so special).

Ben



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Bug#719307: ITP: ruby-parseconfig -- Simple standard configuration file parser for Ruby

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-parseconfig
  Version : 1.0.2
  Upstream Author : BJ Dierkes  
* URL : https://github.com/derks/ruby-parseconfig & 
http://rubygems.org/gems/parseconfig
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : Simple standard configuration file parser for Ruby

ParseConfig provides simple parsing of standard configuration files in the form
of 'param = value'. It also supports nested [group] sections.

This package is a dependency of taskwarrior-web, for which I will file a
separate ITP.


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Bug#719308: ITP: ruby-rack-flash3 -- Flash hash for Ruby Rack applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-rack-flash3
  Version : 1.0.3
  Upstream Author : Pat Nakajima  & Travis Reeder 

* URL : https://github.com/treeder/rack-flash & 
https://rubygems.org/gems/rack-flash3
* License : Needs clarification; authors emailed
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : Flash hash for Ruby Rack applications

Rack Flash is a simple flash hash implementation for Rack apps. This version is
Travis Reeder's fork of Pat Nakajima's original implementation that works with
Sinatra.

This package is a dependency of taskwarrior-web, for which I will file a
separate ITP.

As noted above, the license needs clarification. I could not find any statement
in the source, and so have emailed both authors.


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Bug#719310: ITP: ruby-simple-navigation -- A library to create navigations for Ruby web applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-simple-navigation
  Version : 3.11.0
  Upstream Author : Andi Schacke  & Mark J. Titorenko
* URL : https://github.com/andi/simple-navigation & 
http://rubygems.org/gems/simple-navigation
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A library to create navigations for Ruby web applications

Simple Navigation is a ruby library for creating navigations (with multiple
levels) for your Rails2, Rails3, Sinatra or Padrino applications. Render your
navigation as html list, link list or breadcrumbs.

This package is a dependency of sinatra-simple-navigation which is in turn a
dependency of taskwarrior-web, for which I am filing separate ITPs.


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Bug#719312: ITP: ruby-sinatra-simple-navigation -- Create simple navigations for Sinatra or Padrino web applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-sinatra-simple-navigation
  Version : 3.6.0
  Upstream Author : Andi Schacke  & Mark J. Titorenko
* URL : https://github.com/andi/sinatra-simple-navigation & 
http://rubygems.org/gems/sinatra-simple-navigation
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : Create simple navigations for Sinatra or Padrino web 
applications

A Sinatra extension enabling the use of ruby-simple-navigation in your Sinatra
and Padrino web applications.

This is a dependency of taskwarrior-web for which I am filing a separate ITP.


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Bug#719313: ITP: ruby-blockenspiel -- A comprehensive implementation of Ruby DSL blocks

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-blockenspiel
  Version : 0.4.5
  Upstream Author : Daniel Azuma 
* URL : http://dazuma.github.io/blockenspiel/ & 
http://rubygems.org/gems/blockenspiel
* License : 3 Clause BSD
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A comprehensive implementation of Ruby DSL blocks

Blockenspiel is a helper library designed to make it easy to implement DSL
blocks. It is designed to be comprehensive and robust, supporting most common
usage patterns, and working correctly in the presence of nested blocks and
multithreading.

This is a dependency of ruby-versionomy, which is in turn a dependency of
taskwarrior-web, for which I am filing ITPs separately.


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Bug#719314: ITP: ruby-versionomy -- A generalized version number class for Ruby

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: ruby-versionomy
  Version : 0.4.4
  Upstream Author : Daniel Azuma 
* URL : http://dazuma.github.io/versionomy/ & 
http://rubygems.org/gems/versionomy
* License : 3 Clause BSD
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A generalized version number class for Ruby

Versionomy is a generalized version number library. It provides tools to
represent, manipulate, parse, and compare version numbers in the wide variety
of versioning schemes in use.

Versionomy’s default versioning scheme handles four primary fields (labeled
major, minor, tiny, and tiny2). It also supports prerelease versions such as
preview, development, alpha, beta, and release candidate. Finally, it supports
patchlevel numbers for released versions.

Versionomy can compare any two version numbers with compatible structure, and
“bump” versions at any level. It supports parsing and unparsing in most
commonly-used formats, and allows you to extend the parsing to include custom
formats.

Finally, Versionomy also lets you to create alternate versioning “schemas”. You
can define any number of version number fields, and provide your own semantics
for comparing, parsing, and modifying version numbers. You can provide
conversions from one schema to another. As an example, Versionomy provides a
schema and formatter/parser matching Gem::Version.

This is a dependency of taskwarrior-web for which I am filing a separate ITP.


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Bug#719315: ITP: taskwarrior-web -- A web interface for the Taskwarrior todo application

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: taskwarrior-web
  Version : 1.1.11
  Upstream Author : Jake Bell 
* URL : https://github.com/theunraveler/taskwarrior-web & 
https://rubygems.org/gems/taskwarrior-web
* License : MIT, GPL-2
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : A web interface for the Taskwarrior todo application

A lightweight, Sinatra-based web interface for the wonderful Taskwarrior todo
application.

The current featureset includes:

* Viewing tasks sorted and grouped in various ways.
* Creating a new task with a due date, project, and tags.
* Editing and deleting tasks.
* Uses your task config to determine date formatting and when an upcoming task
  should be marked as "due".
* Optional HTTP Basic authentication.

This depends on a number of ruby libraries for which I have filed ITPs:

- ruby-parseconfig   #719307
- ruby-rack-flash3   #719308
- ruby-simple-navigation #719310
- ruby-sinatra-simple-navigation #719312
- ruby-blockenspiel  #719313
- ruby-versionomy#719314

Since the license for ruby-rack-flash3 still needs clarification, I am waiting
on a response from upstream before I can proceed with that one (as noted in
#719308). I am cautiously optimistic that the license will be OK. Worst case,
if the license is non-free and I cannot convince upstream to change it, I will
work with taskwarrior-web upstream to use a free alternative. With luck, it
will not come to that.

The source embeds a number of components that probably need to be packaged
separately. If I find these are not yet in the archive, I will file additional
ITPs as needed (and will tidy up this list and DEP5 format it :)

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/css/bootstrap.min.css
lib/taskwarrior-web/public/css/bootstrap-responsive.min.css
lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/bootstrap.js
Copyright 2012 Twitter Inc, ASL 2.0

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/css/datepicker.css
lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/bootstrap-datepicker.js
Copyright 2012 Stefan Petre, ASL 2.0

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/jquery.dataTables.min.js
Copyright 2008-2012 Allan Jardine, Dual GPLv2+BSD

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/jquery.hotkeys.js
Copyright 2010, John Resig, Dual MIT+GPLv2

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/jquery.min.js
MIT

lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/tinycon.min.js
Copyright (c) 2012 Tom Moor, MIT

These other files are included in the source for development purposes and
therefore will be excluded from the taskwarrior-web deb:

coverage/assets/0.7.1/application.css
coverage/assets/0.7.1/application.js
embeds Blueprint CSS Framework 0.9
Copyright (c) 2007-, MIT
embeds github.com style
(c) Vasily Polovnyov , ?
embeds jQuery
Copyright 2010, Dual MIT+GPLv2
embeds jquery.dataTables.min.js
 Copyright 2008-2010 Allan Jardine, Dual GPLv2+BSD
embeds FancyBox
Copyright (c) 2008 - 2010 Janis Skarnelis, Dual MIT+GPL version 
unspecified
embeds timeago
Copyright (c) 2008-2010, Ryan McGeary, MIT
embeds jQuery URL parser
Written by Mark Perkins, m...@allmarkedup.com, http://unlicense.org/ 
(i.e. do what you want with it!)

coverage/assets/0.7.1/smoothness/images/*.png
Apparently the jQuery UI theme "smoothness" by the jQueryUI team, MIT
http://www.nuget.org/packages/jQuery.UI.Themes.smoothness/


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Bug#719315: ITP: taskwarrior-web -- A web interface for the Taskwarrior todo application

2013-08-27 Thread Ben Armstrong
Jérémy,

Thanks for reviewing this.

On 26/08/13 03:38 PM, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> Packaged in libjs-twitter-bootstrap.

Check out my work in progress in git. You'll find I already depend on this.

> Ben Armstrong:
>> lib/taskwarrior-web/public/css/datepicker.css
>> lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/bootstrap-datepicker.js
>> Copyright 2012 Stefan Petre, ASL 2.0
> 
> Does not look packaged.

Nor would I want to package it. I could find no VCS for this upstream,
and the release is an unversioned zip archive. I'll just leave this
embedded for now. Maybe I can convince either upstream for
taskwarrior-web to use something better, or upstream for datepicker to
produce "proper" releases.

>> lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/jquery.dataTables.min.js
>> Copyright 2008-2012 Allan Jardine, Dual GPLv2+BSD
> 
> Does not look packaged.

But the good news is, Matthias Schmitz is packaging this and I will be
sponsoring the upload. We're already partway through the review process.
See #719601.

> Packaged in libjs-jquery-hotkeys.

Again, I already depend on this (and have included a patch to make
taskwarrior-web work with Debian's version).

> Packaged in libjs-jquery.

Yup, I depend on this, too. With this, and other minified js files for
some of the other dependencies above, I need to do a dfsg repack, which
is next up on my TODO.

>> lib/taskwarrior-web/public/js/tinycon.min.js
>> Copyright (c) 2012 Tom Moor, MIT
> 
> Does not look packaged.

I will file an ITP for this. It looks pretty slick and has a reasonable
upstream.

Ben




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Bug#721611: ITP: libjs-tinycon -- Library to manipulate the favicon by adding an alert bubble

2013-09-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Armstrong 

* Package name: libjs-tinycon
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Tom Moor 
* URL : https://github.com/tommoor/tinycon
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: Javascript
  Description : A small library to manipulate the favicon

Tinycon adds an alert bubble to the favicon containing a small amount of
text. It also supports numeric contents up to 2 digits, automatically
truncating using a metric suffix (k, M, G) when it gets too large to
fit.


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Bug#721647: ITP: taskd - not ready to package yet?

2013-09-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
Alejandro,

I was discussing your ITP of taskd with upstream because we noticed you
had filed this and a handful of other ITPs of tasktools.org software.
What is your plan for this? Upstream believes it is not really suitable
to package yet as it is "only barely in beta".

Thanks for your work on packaging tasktools software, though, and
particularly for vit!

Ben


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Bug#721647: taskd now released

2014-01-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
See:

http://taskwarrior.org/news/186

  After three years, 400 commits, a false start, a wrong turn, and a
  lengthy beta, Taskserver is finally released.
  ...
  Taskwarrior 2.3.0 (also released today) supports Taskserver.


Also, note that jwilk put taskwarrior 2.3 in experimental recently. So
maybe it's a good time to get taskd uploaded there too? :)

Cheers,
Ben


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Bug#719601: What is the status of the packaging?

2014-02-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
Matthias,

On 02/04/2014 06:48 PM, Matthias Schmitz wrote:
> Hi Ben, hi Ole, hi *,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 08:28:21PM +0100, Matthias Schmitz wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 09:11:51PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote:
>>> Control: affects -1 + python-astropy
>>>
>>> I am packaging python-astropy, and this package includes
>>> jquery.datatable.min.js for some extended functionality. I would like to
>>> replace this by this Debian package. What is the current status here?
>> i started the packaging here [1] and mailed with Ben Armstrong who is 
>> willing (or was ;) ) to sponsor it but i lost track
>>
>> I'll take a look at the package and answer soon. If you like ping my again 
>> in some days if i don't document the progress here.
> i updated the package and pushed the changes to git.debian.org [1]. I reworked
> the creation of the dfsg-clean orig tarball now only three files get deleted
> for legal reasons. 
> 
> Ben if you still wan't to sponsor the package would you please review? 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Matthias 
> 
> [1] 
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/jquery-datatables.git;a=summary

I'll take a look when I can. Sooner, if possible, but if not, then on
the weekend.

Ben


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Bug#730084: Potential removal - python-irc

2015-08-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 29/08/15 07:12 PM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
> ...
> Ben Armstrong  (xpilot-ng-common)
> ...
> I'm not familiar with these packages that are depending on python-irc, but
> if you would like to continue to have them depend on python-irc, please
> update bug #730084.
>
> As this package is now almost 2 years behind upstream and has been orphaned
> for a considerable time, I may request removal of this package unless I hear
> otherwise from you.
>

If it came down to it and python-irc were removed, xpngcc (a
python-based launcher for the game) would need to be patched to remove
or replace the 'Support and Chat' option. While that would not be ideal,
and I'd rather not have to lose functionality, I could live with it, as
it's not core functionality required by the game.

So, yes, I'm interested in seeing python-irc continue to be maintained,
if someone is available to do the work, but it's not something I'm
personally interested in taking on.

Ben



Bug#513535: ITP: peg-e -- peg elimination solitaire game

2009-01-31 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:05 +0100 (CET)
Andreas Tille  wrote:
> I'm really unsure whether this kind of help is welcome
> or not and I even have to admit that I'm not able to
> continue with this job as the only one.  There is no
> problem in just doing *some* edits or helping out in case
> of questions but as long as I have no response at all
> I'm completely unsure whether this is welcome at all.

It's certainly welcome, and I did have some discussion with Miriam on
irc about this briefly, but she's very busy at this time.

Some of the packages reviewed in my blog article are not suitable for
inclusion in Debian Jr. (or even Debian) for various reasons.  I do not
remember all of the details at this time, so I had hoped Miriam would
get a chance later to fill you in.  I believe in one case
(anagramarama?) it was written in such a way as to make localization
difficult (anagramarama?), if not impossible.  In another case
(kartofel) the controls are quite difficult.  Miriam wanted to see if
they could be improved.

Anyway, thanks for making this set of additions.  They looked basically
OK except since I don't know exactly which packages are going to end up
in Debian I couldn't revise them accordingly.

Ben
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Bug#513535: ITP: peg-e -- peg elimination solitaire game

2009-01-31 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:05 +0100 (CET)
Andreas Tille  wrote:
> This is definitely a package which should be added to
> the tasks files[1].  I have not recieved any answer to
> my mail about editing the Debian Jr. tasks files. [2]

As for Peg-e itself, I agree that it looks like a good candidate.  In
the past my policy has been that any package that I have personally
tried with the children and had a positive response from them, and I
cannot find any other objection to adding, I have added.  Or in the
absence of evidence that it is good for kids by my own direct
observation of children using the software, I have asked for
confirmation from other project members via such direct observation
instead.

So far, I have not tried Peg-e with my own kids.  Can someone vouch for
it from experience using it with kids?  If so, I recommend we include
it.

How we are going to handle user recommendations of software for Debian
Jr. in general is still an open question and I apologize for the
apparent lack of care to answering it.  We do not mean to exclude other
project members from the discussion, but the fact is that much of the
discussion so far has been on irc, so anyone who has not been present
for such discussions does not get filled in on it.  I will make more of
an effort to summarize and post such discussions as they happen from
now on.

Ben
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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 08:15 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 07:32:41AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote:
>> (Also, in any case, don't you think that this game is going a little too
>> far? It's fine to be opposed to systemd, but don't do to Lennart
>
> Well, do you see a difference to the original game with Bill Gates?

Do you honestly not see the difference between poking fun at an upstream
that is at the center of an ongoing controversy vs. poking fun at a
competitor?

I personally don't care for the satire in this case and don't think it's
constructive for the project. Is it worth the expenditure of project
resources, even if ever so small, to allow a "joke package" (and a bad
joke, at that, and hopefully one with limited shelf life), which throws
oil on the fire? Where does it stop? A separate x
package per person whom some subset of users holds accountable for
"ruining Linux"? How does this package make Debian better?
 
I'd also object on the technical grounds that we already have xbill and
the changes in xlennart don't truly justify a fork.

Ben




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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
Dmitry,

On 16/01/15 09:48 AM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> Is it really necessary to discuss this on debian-devel@? IMHO, it's
> local issue, yet… And also please sorry for my English skills.

It's an ITP, so it goes to debian-devel by default to discuss amongst
ourselves whether a package is suitable to enter Debian or not. So yes,
it's a necessary part of the process.

> On 01/16/2015 03:48 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote:
>> Do you honestly not see the difference between poking fun at an
>> upstream that is at the center of an ongoing controversy vs. poking
>> fun at a competitor? 
> 1. Everybody (who doesn't like systemd) already resigned, IMHO. There's
> already no "controversy".

We'll have to agree to disagree here. I still see lots of systemd hate
on irc from certain users, and not just loons. Also, I see it every now
and then on the mailing lists and in blogs as well, and it will be a
while before that fire goes out. I expect another flare-up again
immediately after Jessie is released.

> 2. So you don't mind to add this package in future, right?
>
> So, I can't tell for Stephan Seitz (who you asked), but I don't see
> difference between "XLennart" and "XBill" in ethical and practical meanings.

I can envision a time in the future when it's no longer too soon for
this kind of joke, yes.

>> I personally don't care for the satire in this case and don't think it's
>> constructive for the project.
> "The project" is Debian?

Yes.

>> Is it worth the expenditure of project
>> resources, even if ever so small, to allow a "joke package" (and a bad
>> joke, at that, and hopefully one with limited shelf life), which throws
>> oil on the fire?
> 1. You mean Debian infrastructure resources (like HDD space on Debian
> mirrors)?

And the human cost: ftpmaster team's time, and security team's time, and
QA team's time, and the release team's time ...

> 2. As I said above, there no "oil on the fire". However I may be wrong,
> of course.

I think you are wrong. However, I may be wrong, too. :)

>> Where does it stop? A separate x
>> package per person whom some subset of users holds accountable for
>> "ruining Linux"? How does this package make Debian better?
> 2 packages for 20 years is not too much. Why this should be stopped?
> It's a part of history. This game represents very loud, long and
> interesting moment in FOSS history. And it represents an essential
> culture subset of nowadays FOSS community. So Debian will be better for
> this people. If there's nobody from DD will agree with it, then the
> package just won't be sponsored. I don't see any problem.
>
> How does XBill make Debian better?

Once it's "history" and not "present", sure. And by "stop" I don't mean
active suppression of xlennart's existence (or writing of new satire),
just rampant explosion of multiple redundant packages in Debian, each
serving the same basic purpose with trivial differences from the last. I
don't think this is a good trend.

>> I'd also object on the technical grounds that we already have xbill and
>> the changes in xlennart don't truly justify a fork.
> This could be easily solved by merging xbill with xlennart to "xperson"
> with collection of this people (bill and lennart).

Sure, after the joke is no longer too soon, I'd have no problem with
that (or even keep the original name "xbill" for continuity with its
long history, but that's something upstream can judge best).

Regards,
Ben


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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 11:34 AM, Markus Koschany wrote:
> My personal opinion is that both XBill and xlennart are mildly
> entertaining and it is rather immature to depict living people as a
> "virus". The message is either silly or offensive.

While we're talking about personal opinions, and clarifying for Dmitry,
whom I never answered on the question of "what good is xbill to debian?"
it's not entirely beneath me to chuckle at public figures at their
expense. (What listener of CBC radio hasn't chuckled at the Canadian Air
Farce poking fun at public Canadian figures, for instance? Or if that's
not your nationality ... pick your favourite example of the same genre.)
Yes, xbill is funny (to me) and I think enjoying a bit of silliness like
this can enrich our lives. So my own feelings regarding lampooning
Lennart in a game are, as I said, just my personal distaste for it. I
find it too soon and unfunny, given what the Debian project has just
been through over systemd. I'm not saying satire has no value for
Debian, categorically.

As for the rest of what you wrote, I can only agree.

Cheers,
Ben




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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
Dmitry,

On 16/01/15 12:17 PM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> I see. By the way, it's _not my_ changes. I'm just a Debian user that
> tries to get more experience of Debian packaging. I found the project
> ("xlennart") and just wanted to make a package and find a sponsor. I
> didn't expected that this will be a sore subject. I'll just switch my
> attention to other projects.

OK. If you've decided to drop the ITP, then please just close the bug.

Thanks,
Ben


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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 01:33 PM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> Isn't it premature? Shouldn't abandoned ITP be converted to RFP. If I
> close the bug it may be duplicated by somebody else, soon. Sorry for my
> newbie-ness.

Closing the bug doesn't make it vanish from the system. People will
still be able to find it if they search for it. I asked the QA team and
they said it should just be closed.

Ben


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Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 01:33 PM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> Isn't it premature? Shouldn't abandoned ITP be converted to RFP. If I
> close the bug it may be duplicated by somebody else, soon. Sorry for my
> newbie-ness.

Closing the bug doesn't make it vanish from the system. People will
still be able to find it if they search for it. I asked the QA team and
they said it should just be closed.

Ben


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Bug#719601: ITP: libjs-jquery-datatable

2015-04-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 15/04/15 05:20 PM, Ole Streicher wrote:
> But could you, Ben, or Martin sponsor?

Martin & Ole,

I'm sorry. I had the best of intentions in initially offering to help,
but my project that required this has subsequently been shelved and
other priorities added to the top of my queue. I had hoped to at least
take a peek again by the end of this month, but as that has not
happened, I had better just let you know you should seek someone else.

Ben


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Bug#721647: ITP: taskd - not ready to package yet?

2013-09-08 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 07/09/13 06:30 PM, Alejandro Garrido Mota wrote:
> taskd is in alpha version and should not be in unstable, initially. I
> think that experimental is good branch for taskd. What do you think? 

Sure, that sounds good.

> Your welcome... and now vramsteg is in unstable :)

Yes! And in fact, it was vramsteg I first noticed, and then saw the others.

Ben


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Bug#833173: O: eeepc-acpi-scripts -- 00cfc39420956e29eab8942cc6c0b1a4

2016-08-01 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I intend to orphan the eeepc-acpi-scripts package. I have retired, and
nobody remains from the original debian-eeepc team to look after it,
since the project officially ended years ago.

Thanks,
Ben Armstrong

The package description is:
 role::plugin, works-with::TODO