Bug#514690: Regarding RFS: Artha
> I would not recommend to try this to others. ;-) Point taken. Gee! That (checking in) was fast for a single dosage of pestering ;) Thanks for checking in the control files. I have received a mail telling that the ITP bug is now tagged 'pending'. Also a mail on artha_0.8.0-1_i386 which says (new) artha_0.8.0-1.diff.gz optional utils (new) artha_0.8.0-1.dsc optional utils (new) artha_0.8.0-1_i386.deb optional utils and in the end "Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. You may have gotten the distribution wrong. You'll get warnings above if files already exist in other distributions." So what does these mean? What file is it talking about? Also, if I had received one for i386, why didn't I receive one for amd64? I am confused :-| I wanted to understand the underlying process. Thanks Best Regards Sundaram ____ From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Cc: Artha DebianBug <514...@bugs.debian.org> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:26:16 AM Subject: Re: Regarding RFS: Artha On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > Wow! Never knew you would recommend pestering :0 SUre - but I have only the right to advise this for one single person (=me). I would not recommend to try this to others. ;-) > I am perfectly fine by the usage of cdbs, as you told earlier that its > convenient for > you to keep track. > Well I will remind (pester) you again tomorrow night, as a precursor to the > weekend's > :) Before you pester again: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-science/packages/artha/trunk/debian/?rev=0&sc=0 ;-) I also try to do the upload tomorrow ... Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: Regarding RFS: Artha
Hi, Wow! Never knew you would recommend pestering :0 I am perfectly fine by the usage of cdbs, as you told earlier that its convenient for you to keep track. Well I will remind (pester) you again tomorrow night, as a precursor to the weekend's :) Thanks! Sundaram From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Cc: Artha DebianBug <514...@bugs.debian.org> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:58:20 PM Subject: Re: Regarding RFS: Artha On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > I was wondering if you have uploaded the package to the Debian repository. I > apologize > if I sound demanding or pestering here :) No pestering me is the right way to go. My plan is to do this either at the weekend or at least next monday. Just try perstering again to remind me in case this task might silently go down on my todo list without notice. > I am just curious, how will I know if the upload of the package is done or if > the > check-in of the control files into the Debian Science SVN is done? My plan is to check in first to enable putting the right Vcs fields into the control file. I assume you are OK with the cdbs usage? Thanks for the remainder - it is perfectly welcome on my side Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: Regarding RFS: Artha
Hi Andreas, I was wondering if you have uploaded the package to the Debian repository. I apologize if I sound demanding or pestering here :) I am just curious, how will I know if the upload of the package is done or if the check-in of the control files into the Debian Science SVN is done? Thanks! Warm Regards, Sundaram From: Sundaram To: Andreas Tille Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:31:34 PM Subject: Re: Regarding RFS: Artha > Did you checked the attachments to my mail? Everything is ready there. Oops! I did see the attachment, but didn't bother to open it, since I thought its what I uploaded in mentors. Forgive my ignorance. Gee! All the changes are already done, thanks! > So if I where you I would ask WordNet authors whether they are > interested to either replace their TclTk code by artha or at least > add it to the upstream source of their next release. IMHO artha is > a nice replacement for wnb. Okay, I will write to them regarding this. Since Tcl/Tk installation alone takes up around 20 MB, while the actual WordNet is only 10 MB, totalling the WordNet package to 30 (apprx.) Artha would be a decent replacement for just 300 kb (since Glib and GTK will be there defualt in 90% of the *nix operating systems). Still, am not sure of this though. The reason is that a very few of the options that WNB has are not in Artha. Coordinate Terms, Satillite adjectives and Example frames is the missing list as far as I know, by-heart. The reason for this discrepancy is that I deliberately designed/developed Artha imaging it as a user-friendly thesaurus, while WNB is an illustrator of all the available options of WordNet, by 'all' I mean, those which might not interest the common user too like Sentence Frames for instance: When no example is present for a word, it gives "Something is ing" as an example frame where the user could fit in, while this might not be what a thesaurus shows for a light user, hence I removed it. Because of these reasons, I am not sure. Let us see, I will write to Princeton some time. Now that all the issues in the source package is removed, kindly upload the same :) Thanks! Best Regards Sundaram Ramaswamy ____ From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:09:12 PM Subject: Re: Regarding RFS: Artha On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > I haven't used any Python modules or stuff related to Python. I think you are > talking about the > gtk-builder-convert Python tool, that depends on Python interpretor, which in > turn is required to > build Artha's UI files. Well, if you try to build artha in a pbuilder chroot it is just missing python. > I have missed it, I will correct it. Likewise, my full name is missing in > ChangeLog, will fix it. > > I have never used cdbs. Could you point me to some doc. or something so that > I can use it? I just > edited the "rules" file manually from what dh_make gave me. Also if you could > send me the other minor > issues, I can fix them up as well. Did you checked the attachments to my mail? Everything is ready there. > Well, I have no problem in making those changes. Thanks pointing them! I will > upload the fixed package > in a couple of hours to mentors. One of our fellow Debian member (Kartik > Mistry) pointed to me that > mentor only accepts source packages. I never knew this. I was actually > creating 2 binary debs for i386 > and AMD64 and uploading them, I think the server has picked up only the last > though. So now I needn't > bother about i386 or AMD64, right? I just need to upload one source package, > irrespective of the arch. > Please correct me if I am wrong. Yes - a source package has no arch. The binary package can be builded at different arches - but this is of no interest for the sponsor because he will build the package himself. So there is no need for uploading binary packages. > >Would you mind creating a contact between artha and WordNet authors? > > In view of adding Artha to their list of "Related Projects" section in > WordNet's website, I had sent a > mail to Princeton Univ. a couple of days ago. But that was just to list Artha > in their list of > projects that use WordNet. As for your idea of including Artha into WordNet, > I am completely OK with > it. By "creating a contact between artha and WordNet authors" what kind of > rapport do you mean here? I > am ready to do what is needful for this, but I am not clear. A, sorry for my ignorance - you are not only the author of Debian packaging stuf but also the author of artha code - so you actually are one of the involved parties. ;-)) So if I where you I would ask WordNet authors whether they are interested to eit
Bug#514690: RFS: artha
Hi Kartik, Thanks a lot for telling me that mentors is meant for source packages alone. Didn't know that all this time. And yes, I will change the CC from devel list to mentors-list. Thanks! Warm Regards Sundaram Ramaswamy Artha ~ The Open Thesaurus From: Kartik Mistry To: Sundaram Cc: Artha DebianBug <514...@bugs.debian.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:17:06 AM Subject: Re: RFS: artha On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Sundaram wrote: > As you have told, I have uploaded my package "artha" (for both i386 and > amd64). Below are the details. Hi, I am jumping in middle, sorry for that! mentors.debian.net only accepts 'source' package. And you should mail of sponsorship or related issues to debian-mentors list instead of debian-devel list (which is more focused on Debian development). Thanks for good work and best luck! -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com
Bug#514690: RFS: artha
Hi Andreas, As you have told, I have uploaded my package "artha" (for both i386 and amd64). Below are the details. * Package name: artha Version : 0.8.0-1 Upstream Author : Sundaram Ramaswamy * URL : http://artha.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL v2 Section : utils It builds these binary packages: artha - A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet The upload would fix these bugs: 514690 (ITP) The package can be found on mentors.debian.net: - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/artha - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/artha/artha_0.8.0-1.dsc I would be glad if you uploaded this package for me. I do agree with your recommendation on commiting the control files to Debian Science SVN as it relates to WordNet. Kind regards Sundaram Ramaswamy From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Cc: Debian Developers ; Artha DebianBug <514...@bugs.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:43:02 PM Subject: Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > Actually, I am new to packaging in Debian. I read the New Maintainer's guide > and created 2 .deb > packages (i386 & amd64). I have put them here @ SF.net for local download by > general users, not in a > proper apt repository. All the control files, rules, etc. are in my system, > locally. They are not in > any version controlled area. As per the Debian docs, I have filed a ITP bug. > I encountered this site > mentors.debian.net, where its says new packages needing sponsors are to be > uploaded. Now, should I > upload my packages there and get them sponsored first? Or should I first > check in the control files in > the location you pointed me to. If so, how will I get the credintials to > login. Well, there is no *requirement* to use the SVN repository but it turned out to be quite reasonable. So I would recommend to do so - but finally it is your choice. You have to ask on alioth.debian.org for a guest account and once you got this you can ask for adding you to the debian-science group which automatically grants you write permission to the Debian Science SVN. If this is a to complicated procedure for you for the moment just point me to the *.dsc file on mentors once you uploaded it and I might inject it into Debian Science SVN (if you agree in principle). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet
Hi Andreas, Well, its fine by me in checking-in the control files to the repository. The reason why I was bragging about the procedures is that, I am new to it and thought that they are very hard and fast :) Right now I would prefer option two, since now I am into developing and maintaining a deb package is pretty new to me. So this time, I will upload the packages in mentors and will send you the link so that you can inject them. Once I am done, I will ask for the credintials from alioth.debian.org and will learn doing it myself. > I'd regard it as a WordNet interface which has > a different format than dict. As for Josselin's mail, I agree to your reply that its doesn't come under dictionary category, since its a thesaurus interface for WordNet and also it works completely offline/local. It has unique features which gdict and startdict lack, like hot key summoning, notifications, etc.. > Just correct me if I'm wrong - I just read the description. I kindly suggest you to try it (http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=250410&sel_platform=13326) and see for yourself :) Thanks! Best Regards Sundaram ____ From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Cc: Debian Developers ; Artha DebianBug <514...@bugs.debian.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:43:02 PM Subject: Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > Actually, I am new to packaging in Debian. I read the New Maintainer's guide > and created 2 .deb > packages (i386 & amd64). I have put them here @ SF.net for local download by > general users, not in a > proper apt repository. All the control files, rules, etc. are in my system, > locally. They are not in > any version controlled area. As per the Debian docs, I have filed a ITP bug. > I encountered this site > mentors.debian.net, where its says new packages needing sponsors are to be > uploaded. Now, should I > upload my packages there and get them sponsored first? Or should I first > check in the control files in > the location you pointed me to. If so, how will I get the credintials to > login. Well, there is no *requirement* to use the SVN repository but it turned out to be quite reasonable. So I would recommend to do so - but finally it is your choice. You have to ask on alioth.debian.org for a guest account and once you got this you can ask for adding you to the debian-science group which automatically grants you write permission to the Debian Science SVN. If this is a to complicated procedure for you for the moment just point me to the *.dsc file on mentors once you uploaded it and I might inject it into Debian Science SVN (if you agree in principle). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: (no subject)
Hi, If this is the second, may I know which one is the first? By the way, gict needs a dict. server (mostly online) and also gdict and stardict are dictionaries; while Artha is a thesaurus which works off line, that lists a word's Synonyms, Antonyms, Derivatives, Pertainyms, Similar terms, Domain terms, Entails, Causes, Hypernyms, Hyponyms/Troponyms, Holonyms and Meronyms. Apart from thes,e ease-of-use features like summoning using a global hot key, passive notifications of a given word, suggestions, regex search. etc. are present as well. These features are unique to Artha. Thanks Warm Regards, Sundaram From: Josselin Mouette To: Sundaram Ramaswamy ; 514...@bugs.debian.org Cc: "debian-de...@lists.debian.org" Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:00:26 PM Subject: Re: Bug#514690: (no subject) Le mardi 10 février 2009 à 15:00 +0530, Sundaram Ramaswamy a écrit : > Artha is written from scratch in pure C using GTK+, with WordNet > as it database corpus. That’s the second new dictionary GUI submitted in a week. I strongly suggest that you talk with the upstreams of these new programs, as well as the ones of gdict (gnome-utils) and stardict so that we can settle with a single GUI with many available dictionaries, instead of having different interfaces and sets of features depending on the dictionaries. Thanks, -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `-our own. Resistance is futile.
Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet
Hi Andreas, Actually, I am new to packaging in Debian. I read the New Maintainer's guide and created 2 .deb packages (i386 & amd64). I have put themhere @ SF.net for local download by general users, not in a proper apt repository. All the control files, rules, etc. are in my system, locally. They are not in any version controlled area. As per the Debian docs, I have filed a ITP bug. I encountered this site mentors.debian.net, where its says new packages needing sponsors are to be uploaded. Now, should I upload my packages there and get them sponsored first? Or should I first check in the control files in the location you pointed me to. If so, how will I get the credintials to login. Thanks for your time. Warm Regards Sundaram From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Cc: Debian Developers ; 514...@bugs.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:44:38 PM Subject: Re: Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Sundaram wrote: > Thanks for offering help. I guess I will package it today/tomorrow and will > upload the packages to > mentors.debian.net needing a "sponsor". I will keep you posted regarding the > improvements. Sponsoring your package is perfectly OK. You might consider putting the package under team maintenance. WordNet is Maintainer: Debian Science Team DM-Upload-Allowed: yes Uploaders: Andreas Tille Vcs-Browser: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-science/packages/wordnet/trunk/?rev=0&sc=0 Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-science/packages/wordnet/trunk/ If you have questions about this feel free to ask. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet
Hi Andreas, Thanks for offering help. I guess I will package it today/tomorrow and will upload the packages to mentors.debian.net needing a "sponsor". I will keep you posted regarding the improvements. Warm Regards, Sundaram From: Andreas Tille To: Sundaram Ramaswamy ; 514...@bugs.debian.org Cc: Debian Developers Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:09:45 PM Subject: Re: Bug#514690: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Sundaram Ramaswamy wrote: > Artha is written from scratch in pure C using GTK+, with WordNet > as it database corpus. It may be used as an advanced replacement > for the proprietary WordWeb in GNU/Linux environments. Please keep me informed if there is any need for help to package artha - as the WordNet maintainer I'm somehow interested. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#514690: (no subject)
Subject: ITP: artha -- A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet Package: wnpp Owner: Sundaram Ramaswamy Severity: wishlist * Package name: artha Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Sundaram Ramaswamy * URL : http://artha.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Description : A handy off-line thesaurus based on WordNet Artha is a handy English thesaurus having distinct features like look up on a global hot key press, passive notifications of a selected text's definitions, suggestions for misspelled words, etc. Once launched, it sits on the system tray monitoring for a pre-set hot key combination. When some text is selected on any window and the hotkey is pressed, it pops-up with the word looked-up. Should the user prefer passive notifications over the app. popping-up, this can be done by enabling the notifications option. Artha is written from scratch in pure C using GTK+, with WordNet as it database corpus. It may be used as an advanced replacement for the proprietary WordWeb in GNU/Linux environments. -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-amd64 Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
