Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 02-04-2005 18:14, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:

 I have been packaging VPython for some time now and would like to get
 it into the main Debian archive.  There has been an ITP for this way
 back in September 2001 (#112118) which was retitled to RFP in December
 2002 due to nothing happening with it.

 Hopefully I tempted someone to sponsor this package.

Are you requesting sponsorship or adoption of the package?


I have had a look at the package, and find your packaging very well
done. I'd like to adopt it if that's ok with you.

I do not, however, want to sponsor your package as part of you becoming
a Debian Developer (I _do_ want more Debian developers, I just don't
believe in the current package sponsoring logic).


If you later become a Debian Developer and want to take over official
maintainance of it for Debian, I'd be happy to hand it back to you.


So please tell me if it's fine with you that I adopt the package for
official Debian maintainance.


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:33:02AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On 02-04-2005 18:14, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
 
  I have been packaging VPython for some time now and would like to get
  it into the main Debian archive.  There has been an ITP for this way
  back in September 2001 (#112118) which was retitled to RFP in December
  2002 due to nothing happening with it.
 
  Hopefully I tempted someone to sponsor this package.
 
 Are you requesting sponsorship or adoption of the package?
 
 
 I have had a look at the package, and find your packaging very well
 done. I'd like to adopt it if that's ok with you.
 
 I do not, however, want to sponsor your package as part of you becoming
 a Debian Developer (I _do_ want more Debian developers, I just don't
 believe in the current package sponsoring logic).

it would not help him to become a developer if you take the
package out of his hands. he needs to show his l33t packageing
skills and ability to handle weired debian users/developers to
build esteem and impress his AM in the current system.

(later, in the small groups setup that could be different.)


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Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 03-04-2005 13:45, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:33:02AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 
On 02-04-2005 18:14, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:


I have been packaging VPython for some time now and would like to get
it into the main Debian archive.  There has been an ITP for this way
back in September 2001 (#112118) which was retitled to RFP in December
2002 due to nothing happening with it.

Hopefully I tempted someone to sponsor this package.

Are you requesting sponsorship or adoption of the package?


I have had a look at the package, and find your packaging very well
done. I'd like to adopt it if that's ok with you.

I do not, however, want to sponsor your package as part of you becoming
a Debian Developer (I _do_ want more Debian developers, I just don't
believe in the current package sponsoring logic).
 
 
 it would not help him to become a developer if you take the
 package out of his hands. he needs to show his l33t packageing
 skills and ability to handle weired debian users/developers to
 build esteem and impress his AM in the current system.

I did expect others to complain. that usually happens when I offer my
packaging skills without at the same time accepting the responibilities
of sponsorship. Sponsorship was not required for me when entering Debian
and I believe the sponsoring program to be broken. If you want to
discuss that then let's do it somewhere else than in this bugreport
(suggestion: debian-project@ ).

Andreas: Feel free to sponsor the package yourself, if you like. I won't
take that responsibility. Call me weird if you like, it won't change my
decision.


Floris: You describe the package failing adoption for years, but do not
clearly state if you are in the process of becoming a Debian developer
or not.

I offer to adopt the package and hand it back if/when Floris becomes an
official Debian developer.

For the record: I do _not_ offer to sponsor the package using the
current Debian rules/manners of sponsorship.


 (later, in the small groups setup that could be different.)

I don't know the small groups setup you mention - could you please
point me to more on that?


Regards,

 - Jonas

P.S.

Please don't cc me - I am subscribed to debian-edu.

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Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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retitle 112118 ITP: python-visual -- Python library for 3d visualization
thanks

On 03-04-2005 14:41, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:

 I was thinking of only applying for DD when I had proven to myself I
 could handle maintaining it in Debian and/or if my sponsor
 asked/suggested so.  Hence getting the package in Debian is more
 important to me then maintaining it myself and I would be open to
 Jonas adopting it.  If a sponsor appeared that would even be better
 though, but Jonas has been the only person showing interest so far.

You would probably be a better package maintainer than me, Floris (as I
am not using the package myself, just see it useful for others and not
too complicated for me to maintain), so I'd certainly welcome you into
Debian, even if only to maintain that single package.

My offer to hand it off again goes to a sponsoring deal as well. But
possibly my dirty hands officially on the package could be seen as
negative for your application (just speculating!).


I will adopt the package, and am preparing an upload now. Go become a
maintainer, or go find another pet package - both will be a benefit to
Debian and thus to the world :-)


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:10:32PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 I don't know the small groups setup you mention - could you please
 point me to more on that?

look at my platform and the posts in -vote about teams.

http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/platforms/andreas

http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00318.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00372.html


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Bug#112118: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 04-04-2005 00:09, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:10:32PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 
I don't know the small groups setup you mention - could you please
point me to more on that?
 
 
 look at my platform and the posts in -vote about teams.
 
 http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/platforms/andreas
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00318.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00372.html


Ahh - I had a feeling it was part of your campaign :-)

Thanks. I haven't even read the whole transcript of the IRC meeting yet,
but will do it in time.


Good luck with the campaign!



 - Jonas

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