Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-09 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Ralf Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-04 18:00]:
> On Friday 04 April 2003 18:29, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> He asked what was superior/different between icoutils and png2ico.  He
>> didn't say it shouldn't go in or that there was any problem with it.  If
>> it doesn't do anything different one might wonder about the point of
>> including it.  Obviously mutt and elm are quite different in a number of
>> ways, as are exim and sendmail, etc.
>>
>> Are you getting defensive so quickly because there is no difference?
> 
> Well, I don't question the good intention of the question nor would I
> insist on packaging it

 You did, otherwise you would have used a very strange wording for your
response to Colin.

> That's why I filed an ITP - I just didn't know there's another tool
> available already :-)

 Again, your response to Colin was completely misleading, then. Make up
your mind before you fire.

> OTOH this utility is just limited to doing what I wanted to do -
> convert a couple of standard size icons into one single ico for a CD.

 You haven't read the manual page for icotool, have you?  It's clearly
written out in the examples:

#v+
Create an icon named `favicon.ico' with two images:
  $ icotool -c -o favicon.ico mysite_32x32.png mysite_64x64.png
#v-

> How's icotool handling that ? Can it convert multiple iconsizes into one ico 
> resource or is it limited to one single png file converted into ico format ?

 Yes, it can.  See the EXAMPLES section in the manual page.

 So long!
Alfie
-- 
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Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Friday 04 April 2003 18:29, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Ralf Nolden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Friday 04 April 2003 11:31, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 10:46:32AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > > Package: wnpp
> > > > Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-04
> > > > Severity: wishlist
> > > >
> > > > * Package name: png2ico
> > > >   Version : 2002-12-08
> > > >   Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
> > > > * License : GPL
> > > >   Description : a png to windows ico converter program
> > >
> > > icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
> > > png2ico superior/different?
> >
> > Then why does Debian include the number of x mailservers and y
> > mailreaders if postfix / mutt is doing the job as well ?
>
> He asked what was superior/different between icoutils and png2ico.  He
> didn't say it shouldn't go in or that there was any problem with it.  If
> it doesn't do anything different one might wonder about the point of
> including it.  Obviously mutt and elm are quite different in a number of
> ways, as are exim and sendmail, etc.
>
> Are you getting defensive so quickly because there is no difference?

Well, I don't question the good intention of the question nor would I insist 
on packaging it - I just needed such a tool and didn't find a suitable one 
right away this week - the convenient tool name would have been png2ico, so I 
just searched for that in debian and didn't get a match, so I tried google 
and found that one and it works just fine. That's why I filed an ITP - I just 
didn't know there's another tool available already :-)  OTOH this utility is 
just limited to doing what I wanted to do - convert a couple of standard size 
icons into one single ico for a CD. Works like:

png2ico icon-16.png icon-22.png icon-32.png icon-48.png icon-64.png myicon.ico

How's icotool handling that ? Can it convert multiple iconsizes into one ico 
resource or is it limited to one single png file converted into ico format ?

Ralf
>
>   Stephen

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Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Vincent Zweije
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 05:17:11PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:

||  On Friday 04 April 2003 11:31, Colin Watson wrote:

||  > icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
||  > png2ico superior/different?
||
||  Then why does Debian include the number of x mailservers and y mailreaders
||  if postfix / mutt is doing the job as well ?

Because each has its own advantages, be they security, lightweight,
easy of configuration, flexibility, or the ability to handle giant
loads. Just one advantage will do.

Ciao.  Vincent.



Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Stephen Frost
* Ralf Nolden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2003 11:31, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 10:46:32AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > Package: wnpp
> > > Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-04
> > > Severity: wishlist
> > >
> > > * Package name: png2ico
> > >   Version : 2002-12-08
> > >   Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
> > > * License : GPL
> > >   Description : a png to windows ico converter program
> >
> > icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
> > png2ico superior/different?
> 
> Then why does Debian include the number of x mailservers and y mailreaders if 
> postfix / mutt is doing the job as well ? 

He asked what was superior/different between icoutils and png2ico.  He
didn't say it shouldn't go in or that there was any problem with it.  If
it doesn't do anything different one might wonder about the point of
including it.  Obviously mutt and elm are quite different in a number of
ways, as are exim and sendmail, etc.

Are you getting defensive so quickly because there is no difference?

Stephen


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Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 05:17:11PM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2003 11:31, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 10:46:32AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > > * Package name: png2ico
> > >   Version : 2002-12-08
> > >   Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
> > > * License : GPL
> > >   Description : a png to windows ico converter program
> >
> > icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
> > png2ico superior/different?
> 
> Then why does Debian include the number of x mailservers and y
> mailreaders if postfix / mutt is doing the job as well ? 

I'm just asking how it's better, not saying it can't be better: it's
entirely possible that it is. If you can't answer the question then I
might be more concerned, though.

(Hint: different MTAs and different MUAs have different strengths.)

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Friday 04 April 2003 11:31, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 10:46:32AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-04
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name: png2ico
> >   Version : 2002-12-08
> >   Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
> > * License : GPL
> >   Description : a png to windows ico converter program
>
> icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
> png2ico superior/different?

Then why does Debian include the number of x mailservers and y mailreaders if 
postfix / mutt is doing the job as well ? 

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Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 10:46:32AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-04
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name: png2ico
>   Version : 2002-12-08
>   Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
> * License : GPL
>   Description : a png to windows ico converter program

icotool, from the icoutils package, can already do this job ... how is
png2ico superior/different?

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#187553: ITP: png2ico -- a png to windows ico converter program

2003-04-04 Thread Ralf Nolden
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2003-04-04
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: png2ico
  Version : 2002-12-08
  Upstream Author : Matthias S. Benkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware
* License : GPL
  Description : a png to windows ico converter program


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