Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 09:46:34AM -0700, Ted Cabeen wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I suppose makepasswd isn't a major feature improvement over the > > combination of pwgen and mkpasswd, so if somebody wanted to remove it I > > wouldn't object too strongly. I don't think it's entirely redundant, > > though. > > Its not entirely redundant. I like it because it has the most option > of any of the usual programs that people use, and because it's written > in perl, so it's easy to transfer to other systems and platforms. I > often forget which of pwgen and mkpasswd has the option I want, so > I'll just use makepasswd for simplicity. > > BTW: Colin, if you decide that you don't want to adopt this one, I'd > be happy to take it as well. I use it quite a bit and it looked > like a nice simple package to have as my first debian package. I have plenty of packages, so I see no reason to stand in the way of a new maintainer, provided you fix its bugs and maintain it well. :) Sounds like you use it more than me anyway. Send me a diff and I'll have a look; my current version has fixes for #50885, #147808, #168492, and #190485. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 08:44:31PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I suppose makepasswd isn't a major feature improvement over the > combination of pwgen and mkpasswd, so if somebody wanted to remove it I > wouldn't object too strongly. I don't think it's entirely redundant, > though. Its not entirely redundant. I like it because it has the most option of any of the usual programs that people use, and because it's written in perl, so it's easy to transfer to other systems and platforms. I often forget which of pwgen and mkpasswd has the option I want, so I'll just use makepasswd for simplicity. BTW: Colin, if you decide that you don't want to adopt this one, I'd be happy to take it as well. I use it quite a bit and it looked like a nice simple package to have as my first debian package. -- Ted Cabeen http://www.pobox.com/~secabeen[EMAIL PROTECTED] Check Website or Keyserver for PGP/GPG Key BA0349D2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I have taken all knowledge to be my province." -F. Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human kind cannot bear very much reality."-T.S.Eliot[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 11:08:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 07:57:38AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd initially missed the option to pwgen that allows you to pick the > > > length of the generated passwords, though, which would've been a serious > > > lack. pwgen tries to generate pronounceable passwords by default > > > (there's a --secure flag to disable this), which isn't available in > > > makepasswd. > > > > I thought --chars did exactly that? > > Did exactly which, sorry? I don't understand that. I was referring to the length of the password. I now see that you actually knew it after all :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 07:57:38AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd initially missed the option to pwgen that allows you to pick the > > length of the generated passwords, though, which would've been a serious > > lack. pwgen tries to generate pronounceable passwords by default > > (there's a --secure flag to disable this), which isn't available in > > makepasswd. > > I thought --chars did exactly that? Did exactly which, sorry? I don't understand that. > makepasswd probably has the most number of options out of them all :) Agreed, from what I can see ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd initially missed the option to pwgen that allows you to pick the > length of the generated passwords, though, which would've been a serious > lack. pwgen tries to generate pronounceable passwords by default > (there's a --secure flag to disable this), which isn't available in > makepasswd. I thought --chars did exactly that? makepasswd probably has the most number of options out of them all :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 08:44:31PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-11 11:40]: > > retitle 192660 ITA: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords > > thanks > > > > I'll take it. I'm trying to contact Rob Levin to find out whether it's > > still maintained upstream (although I suspect not). > > What does makepasswd offer that pwgen doesn't have? (also see -devel > on this) (I've seen -devel; Frank is correct and Marco can't even have bothered to read the package description before asking whether it offered more than whois' mkpasswd. Discounting that.) Well, makepasswd is a bit more flexible in some ways; you can tell it to use only certain characters, for instance, and give it a range of lengths. Also, you can use --rerandom=1 to make it reseed the random number generator straight out of /dev/random for every byte (accepting that you may have to hit a key every so often to generate more entropy), while pwgen always settles for the PRNG in /dev/urandom on systems that have it. I'd initially missed the option to pwgen that allows you to pick the length of the generated passwords, though, which would've been a serious lack. pwgen tries to generate pronounceable passwords by default (there's a --secure flag to disable this), which isn't available in makepasswd. I suppose makepasswd isn't a major feature improvement over the combination of pwgen and mkpasswd, so if somebody wanted to remove it I wouldn't object too strongly. I don't think it's entirely redundant, though. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
retitle 192660 ITA: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords thanks On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:05:38AM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > The current maintainer of makepasswd, Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > is apparently not active anymore. Therefore, I orphan this package > now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it -- see > http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/index.html#howto-o for detailed > instructions how to adopt a package properly. I'll take it. I'm trying to contact Rob Levin to find out whether it's still maintained upstream (although I suspect not). -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-11 11:40]: > retitle 192660 ITA: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords > thanks > > I'll take it. I'm trying to contact Rob Levin to find out whether it's > still maintained upstream (although I suspect not). What does makepasswd offer that pwgen doesn't have? (also see -devel on this) -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#192660: O: makepasswd -- Generate and encrypt passwords
Package: wnpp Severity: normal The current maintainer of makepasswd, Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, is apparently not active anymore. Therefore, I orphan this package now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it -- see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/index.html#howto-o for detailed instructions how to adopt a package properly. Some information about this package: Package: makepasswd Binary: makepasswd Version: 1.10-1 Priority: optional Section: admin Maintainer: Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Standards-Version: 3.0.1.0 Directory: dists/potato/main/source/admin Files: a778640306e45f1166f28631486eb43e 628 makepasswd_1.10-1.dsc 55842bb4c064ebcdedffb4afd5f0945a 12382 makepasswd_1.10.orig.tar.gz 1112703e7f1e0462a10ff22e29195330 2294 makepasswd_1.10-1.diff.gz Package: makepasswd Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 32 Maintainer: Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 1.10-1 Depends: perl5 Filename: dists/potato/main/binary-all/admin/makepasswd_1.10-1.deb Size: 9250 MD5sum: 7fb5169680f6b93744be912e9bb99336 Description: Generate and encrypt passwords Generates true random passwords by using the /dev/random feature of Linux, with the emphasis on security over pronounceability. It can also encrypt plaintext passwords given on the command line. Justification: bugs, inactive, didn't respond to pings -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]