Bug#196200: Shouldn't we remove request-tracker from the archive ?

2003-08-05 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Stephen Quinney wrote:
>On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:59:05PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
>> This one time, at band camp, Pierre Machard wrote:
>> >Hello, 
>> >
>> >I am sending you this e-mail because Jamie Wilkinson was 
>> >interested by adopting request-tracker. It seems that Andrew 
>> >Stribblehill and Stephen Quinney are already maintaining a package nammed 
>> >request-tracker3.
>> >
>> >Could you confim that the package nammed request-tracker3
>> >include the lastest release of request-tracker? If Yes, what do you think
>> >about asking for a remove of request-tracker?
>> 
>> Matt Hope and myself are currently working on cleaning up the existing RT2
>> package, and are investigating ways to migrate between versions using the
>> upstream migration scripts.
>
>Oh? I have also been doing a bit of work, looking into how to package
>the upstream migration scripts. As there is the problem that RT2 and
>RT3 conflict on a number of files, I wondered about creating an
>rt2-to-rt3 package that contained the scripts and all the libraries it
>needs (both rt2 and rt3) but in a completely separate directory, such
>as /usr/share/rt2-to-rt3/. This means that someone could migrate with
>either of rt2 or rt3 installed on the machine

I am currently investigating using the scripts as part of the postinstall;
see a recent thread on debian-devel (or was it -mentors) between Matthew
Palmer and Joey Hess regarding upgrades of database schemas in package
upgrades, for some ideas on how it might work.  I have nothing concrete yet.

Anyway, I am currently looking at absorbing the old rt1 package that is also
still around; providing a clean upgrade from rt1 to rt2 is a first step in
unifying the packaging of this colourful and interesting software.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://people.debian.org/~jaq



Bug#196200: Shouldn't we remove request-tracker from the archive ?

2003-08-05 Thread Stephen Quinney
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:59:05PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Pierre Machard wrote:
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > I am sending you this e-mail because Jamie Wilkinson was 
> >interested by adopting request-tracker. It seems that Andrew 
> >Stribblehill and Stephen Quinney are already maintaining a package nammed 
> >request-tracker3.
> >
> > Could you confim that the package nammed request-tracker3
> >include the lastest release of request-tracker? If Yes, what do you think
> >about asking for a remove of request-tracker?
> 
> Matt Hope and myself are currently working on cleaning up the existing RT2
> package, and are investigating ways to migrate between versions using the
> upstream migration scripts.

Oh? I have also been doing a bit of work, looking into how to package
the upstream migration scripts. As there is the problem that RT2 and
RT3 conflict on a number of files, I wondered about creating an
rt2-to-rt3 package that contained the scripts and all the libraries it
needs (both rt2 and rt3) but in a completely separate directory, such
as /usr/share/rt2-to-rt3/. This means that someone could migrate with
either of rt2 or rt3 installed on the machine

> There is a lot of functionality in RT2 that is not yet implemented
> in RT3, which many people rely on.  It is not fair to a lot of RT2
> users to forcefully upgrade them just yet.

I agree with this completely, many people will want to keep running
RT2 for sometime to come. I've heard of people still using RT1...


Stephen Quinney



Bug#196200: Shouldn't we remove request-tracker from the archive ?

2003-08-05 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Pierre Machard wrote:
>   Hello, 
>   
>   I am sending you this e-mail because Jamie Wilkinson was 
>interested by adopting request-tracker. It seems that Andrew 
>Stribblehill and Stephen Quinney are already maintaining a package nammed 
>request-tracker3.
>
>   Could you confim that the package nammed request-tracker3
>include the lastest release of request-tracker? If Yes, what do you think
>about asking for a remove of request-tracker?

Matt Hope and myself are currently working on cleaning up the existing RT2
package, and are investigating ways to migrate between versions using the
upstream migration scripts.

There is a lot of functionality in RT2 that is not yet implemented in RT3,
which many people rely on.  It is not fair to a lot of RT2 users to
forcefully upgrade them just yet.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://people.debian.org/~jaq



Bug#196200: Shouldn't we remove request-tracker from the archive ?

2003-08-05 Thread Pierre Machard
Hello, 

I am sending you this e-mail because Jamie Wilkinson was 
interested by adopting request-tracker. It seems that Andrew 
Stribblehill and Stephen Quinney are already maintaining a package nammed 
request-tracker3.

Could you confim that the package nammed request-tracker3
include the lastest release of request-tracker? If Yes, what do you think
about asking for a remove of request-tracker?


Thanks,
-- 
Pierre Machard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://debian.org
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Bug#196200: Shouldn't we remove request-tracker from the archive ?

2003-08-05 Thread Andrew Stribblehill
Quoting Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2003-08-05 13:21:41 BST):
>   Hello, 
>   
>   I am sending you this e-mail because Jamie Wilkinson was 
> interested by adopting request-tracker. It seems that Andrew 
> Stribblehill and Stephen Quinney are already maintaining a package nammed 
> request-tracker3.
> 
>   Could you confim that the package nammed request-tracker3
> include the lastest release of request-tracker? If Yes, what do you think
> about asking for a remove of request-tracker?

Yes, rt3 (request-tracker 3) is the latest version. However, its
database schema is incompatible with that of rt2 so it can't just
take over the package named request-tracker. I don't think rt2
should be removed just yet, because I expect more people use rt2 than
rt3 still.

I'm not totally decided, so please feel free to argue this with me ;)

-- 
Andrew Stribblehill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Systems programmer, IT Service, University of Durham, England